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[Lando_Griffin]

Fck me... is this whole sht about antis and pros getting worse or is it just me ?!

I’m losing all interest in posting because of GYBS and his likes to be honest jumping at every post criticizing the poster with 1liner bullsht posts that basically question loyalty or quite simply offer irrelevant and tedious support to the manager/players... guess what GYBS, ur fcking boring mate, probably the most boring, clueless poster these boards have ever seen..

My indictment of the rafa regime...

Well... he's been a terrific coach for us... we’re yet again one of the better sides in the continent and he's done a great job in making us one of the hardest sides to beat in world football at the moment... I think it was saint who said earlier that the one thing u look for in a manager is success and whether a manager would bring in any... now IMO, Benitez has taken us as far as he can... I don’t think he has what it takes to win us the league, which after all is our main hope/objective/whatever... his approach to the game is too negative at times, and add to that the fact that he thinks that a player can’t play 2 games in a row without somehow being rotated 3 times whilst at it... all the crrappy transfers.. etc etc... Would take a lot of things going our way at once for us to become champions under him imo...

I don’t think he should or could be sacked this season quite simply because we’re still in it and its pretty late to bring someone in and hope for an instant impact because even that might not be enough for us to win it this season... Starting next season though, I think it wouldn’t be a bad idea at all if we start off with a new manager... not to milk it or anything but mourinho would be a fantastic man to have in charge... not that i think it could/will happen, just that i cant seem to think of many others who wouldnt be (risks) if you will... Gullit is another one I find pretty interesting but I won’t go there now...

Anyways... hope everyone is having a good night

Whereas "Rafa is sh*t", "Rafa has taken us as far as he can", "Rafa doesn't have what it takes", "Rafa will never win the league" is the most exciting literature ever produced...

Pr*ck.

i didnt say rafa is sht..

anyways... its my opinion so if u got any decent input besides ur usual sluutty nonsense i suggest u either put it out or just stick to posting in general chat...

ur just ruining a good footie thread here dumbo now hush hush back to bed its pretty late u dont wanna miss school tomorrow...

Listen to me, boy. It is very rare I ever post in General Chat, so i should nip that one in the bud right here and now if you know what's good for you.

Rafa has shown progress every season. We are in the best position for the best part of 20 years, and we've done it almost entirely without our best striker.

Do I make myself clear, or would you like it in Dolby Surround Sound, with flashing baubels and a free embossed pencil sharpener and a sticker to hammer the point home?

Do you think you might digest that, pumpkin, so you can all stop lathering yourselves up with the creamy soap of your Lando-free football discussion fantasies?

dont know if its the fact that u dont bother reading or just the fact that ur a thick muppet that u'd reply with sht like that..

if u read my post again, i clearly state that theres little doubt that we'v made progress under benitez, and that we'r in a good position (could have been better but still)...

now ill say it again... u either stick to talking footie or find a different section to post ur sht in because all ur doing is ruining a good footie thread...

Well that's me all told off and put in my place...

I thought text-speak was banned?

Ace - you're a lovable character amongst your own, I'm sure. But do me a favour and stop papering over your rubbish.

You stated Rafa should be replaced at the end of the season. You are my mortal foe and I will crawl naked over broken glass and swim through a sea of petrol with a fag on just to fart in your face.

I will rip down buildings and bugger small woodland creatures just to blow my nose in your direction.

I will walk through a snake pit with a dead badger tied to my John Thomas just to spit at your feet.

And I will bid you good day, fo i am running out of analogies...

good then... u dont think he should get sacked and i think he should...
now fck off ... ur entertaining and all but im not a big fan of fat clowns...

Ah, it's always nice when the olive branch is swatted away like a bluebottle flying around your Sunday Roast...

[bigmick]

Did I call him a c*nt?

No you didn't, and at least you appear to be chilling down a fraction. Pointless getting banned because some people are voicing an opinion on the manager in a "what's your opinion on the manager" thread really.

[112-1077774096]

what improvement?


year 1: win CL and 5th in league
year 2: win FA cup and 4th in league
year 3: win nothing and 3rd in league
year 4: win nothing and 4th in league

Where are we at the minute?

did the season finish already? what did I miss?


I will tell you where we are, out of the league cup, out of the FA cup, difficult tie in the CL and second in the league, two points behind a team having played one game more, whilst weeks ago we were ahead of said team by 10 points having played two games more. there is a six point turn around there (assuming they would win games in hand) caused by draws while the tactical genius sat on the touchline trying to figure out how to outwit the mighty tony pullman and the legendary david moyes amongst others. we have a manager who pulls off our only real goal threat after wigan pulled level with 7 minutes to go, we have a manager who faced the mighty portsmouth with 6 recognised defenders on the pitch and our real talent sat on the bench getting a nice little rest for the upcoming internationals.

we are left with one recognised striker for the remainder of the season, we are 3 ahead of the mighty villa despite in december them being nowhere near us.

yeah we have really improved, my mistake


and john the records will show mate that we won nothing, don't even get me started on his tactical nous in athens

[Lando_Griffin]

what improvement?


year 1: win CL and 5th in league
year 2: win FA cup and 4th in league
year 3: win nothing and 3rd in league
year 4: win nothing and 4th in league

Where are we at the minute?

did the season finish already? what did I miss?


I will tell you where we are, out of the league cup, out of the FA cup, difficult tie in the CL and second in the league, two points behind a team having played one game more, whilst weeks ago we were ahead of said team by 10 points having played two games more. there is a six point turn around there (assuming they would win games in hand) caused by draws while the tactical genius sat on the touchline trying to figure out how to outwit the mighty tony pullman and the legendary david moyes amongst others. we have a manager who pulls off our only real goal threat after wigan pulled level with 7 minutes to go, we have a manager who faced the mighty portsmouth with 6 recognised defenders on the pitch and our real talent sat on the bench getting a nice little rest for the upcoming internationals.

we are left with one recognised striker for the remainder of the season, we are 3 ahead of the mighty villa despite in december them being nowhere near us.

yeah we have really improved, my mistake


and john the records will show mate that we won nothing, don't even get me started on his tactical nous in athens

I prefer this take on it:

We are 2nd, 2 points behind the leaders and yet to play them again. We have beaten Man U and Chelsea (twice), finished top of our CL group stage, and have spent a decent amount of time atop the table, mainly without Torres and Skrtyl. We appear to be through our bad patch, have our top striker back after a long absence, and have everything to fight for in the league and CL.

But hey - it's all about opinions.

[112-1077774096]

But hey - it's all about opinions.

indeed it is

[LegBarnes]

what improvement?


year 1: win CL and 5th in league
year 2: win FA cup and 4th in league
year 3: win nothing and 3rd in league
year 4: win nothing and 4th in league

Where are we at the minute?

did the season finish already? what did I miss?


I will tell you where we are, out of the league cup, out of the FA cup, difficult tie in the CL and second in the league, two points behind a team having played one game more, whilst weeks ago we were ahead of said team by 10 points having played two games more. there is a six point turn around there (assuming they would win games in hand) caused by draws while the tactical genius sat on the touchline trying to figure out how to outwit the mighty tony pullman and the legendary david moyes amongst others. we have a manager who pulls off our only real goal threat after wigan pulled level with 7 minutes to go, we have a manager who faced the mighty portsmouth with 6 recognised defenders on the pitch and our real talent sat on the bench getting a nice little rest for the upcoming internationals.

we are left with one recognised striker for the remainder of the season, we are 3 ahead of the mighty villa despite in december them being nowhere near us.

yeah we have really improved, my mistake


and john the records will show mate that we won nothing, don't even get me started on his tactical nous in athens

I prefer this take on it:

We are 2nd, 2 points behind the leaders and yet to play them again. We have beaten Man U and Chelsea (twice), finished top of our CL group stage, and have spent a decent amount of time atop the table, mainly without Torres and Skrtyl. We appear to be through our bad patch, have our top striker back after a long absence, and have everything to fight for in the league and CL.

But hey - it's all about opinions.

If it is why do you feel the need to have ago at others for there's ?

Just accept not every one thinks like you and that every thing you think isn't a given and you might grow a little.

I like how you support the club but the way you do it alot of the time I think is very counter productive and sometimes you won't get your point across because of all the comments you come out with.

Not having a go just think its time will stoped all this name calling and dick swing contest on forums and come together as fans and just basicly try to get along.

Its been a really hard few years for every one at club and us fans and I feel it might just be getting to us all.

Lets show the manc's chav's bitter's we as fans as a club will be stronger and closer then every one else in these hard times. 

[GYBS]

Hard years for fans ? This is nothing compared to the early 90s when at one stage it looked like we might even get dragged into a relagation fight . There we were scrapping for a UEFA cup place , fighting like tooth and nail to get a win in the milk rumbelows carling cup , finally getting there and Beating the massive Sunderland and Bolton in the Final all the while the Mancs and Arsenal were fighting for the CL and the Title . Now they were hard times up until GH arrived and started the upturn and got us more competitive then Rafa arrived and first turned us into a force in the CL and now getting us challenging.

I expect there is some members here that remeber the hard times in the 60s as well. We are not in Hard times at the moment . compared to the last 20 years we are doing pretty damn well .

[Number 9]

Well they haven't heard how sh!te Rafa is at everything off me Baz, that's for sure. I agree with you on the Mourinho thread by the way, that's why I started it in a section which people barely visit, so it didn't cause any offence.

Equally, I tried to keep the w2nking over him to a minimum, prefrring to just go with the facts of his record and allow others to judge.

Anyway, once again I'm allowing myself to get dragged into something which will derail the thread.

MY INDICTMENT OF THE RAFA BENITEZ REGIME. As you were. Isn't it strange how people would put anti Rafa comments in this thread, and if you come into it and read them you might get of reading anti Rafa comments? Very odd, but anyway as you were.

Well Mick firstly mate although you have'nt exactly said "RAFA IS AT EVERYTHING"..I will agree with that you have'nt used those exact words.But it does'nt take a genius to work out after reading your posts that you are not exactly his biggest fan does it?
You've came out and said we will never win the League with him and its more or less time he should go....fair enough I have no problem with that,people have a right to their opinion.
I do however find it absolutely bizarre that you've been critical of him for a long time and wait till we are only two points behind UTD (with enough games to go for anything to happen) to actually say we are never gonna win it with Rafa!Lets not talk like politicians here...You may not have actually said"We will NEVER win it with Rafa"..You may have said"I dont think......" or something but we know what you mean!

As for the Mourinho [email]w@nkfest...no[/email] apologies there cause thats they way I see it,I find it all a bit sickening TBH.Again given our position in the table only makes it stranger.Its not a Oh lets just look at what hes done,just for something to talk about its more a case of Rafas ashi'te and Jose is the man for us.Again those words not exactly used but thats where its going!

As for de railing threads?Is de railing a thread mentioning that you find a bunch of LFC fans beating their meat over the most arrogant self obsessed piece of shi'te in football?
Sorry I just think its a bit wrong that our manager who has us still in the race(whether you believe it or not) gets so much flak while you and a few others have been w@nking over that kunt like he's some sort of Messiah for the last few days....If that is de railing a thread then fu'ck it...I'll take the sorry bit back!

Im not some sort of blind supporter that just follows Rafa like a fool.There have been times this season that I couild have strangled him after a game,but thats the way it goes.
He's not perfect but he has us second and in a good position.Oh right but thats only because Arsenal and Chelsea have been weak this season...yeah we'll go with that.Anything but give the manager and players a bit of credit.We aint good its just,everyone else is shi'te,apart from UTD of course....and Mourinho!

[GYBS]

I remember during those years in the 80s when the mancs where ploding along winning the odd cup here and there spending more money that most clubs constantly changing the manager every club of years then the new manager would change players spend more money etc etc . Then in 86 they got Taggert - after 6 months Bobby Charlton wanted him sacked but the board said no - 4 years later after doing nothing of any significant they wanted him sacked again but a certainly Lee Martin saved his bacon by scoring the winner in the FA cup final . So they stuck with him still despite being nowhere in the league. The following season during the summer they backed him very well in the transfer market and then lo and behold they challenged for the title finally and only fell at the last hurdle to leeds . The next season he tweaked the team a little - adding a few more players and then looked what happened they won the title at least . Also during those early years he went mad looking for youngsters to improve his youth policy . Over the next 10 to 18 years those youngesters came through and through success and sticking and backing with everything he wanted with a manager the scum just grew . Now i am in now way saying that Rafa is like taggert and no way saying he will be as successful as him BUT he has improved us - he has taken us on a level - the one main problem he has had to face is while we improve so do the others - Yes arsenal and chelsea seem to be treading water this year but the Mancs have improved namely at the back and have added a 30 million pound striker to the team . It was always going to be hard for Rafa or any other manager to overhaul the mancs,chelsea and arsenal all in one go and was going to take time . At the moment it seems we are a bit better than Chelsea and Arsenal (if thats cause they got worse oh well - its still the same players namely as last couple of years) its just that final step now of overhauling the mancs . It may or may not happen this year (i Hope it does ) but IMO if we keep going then we will overhaul them (not every year) and we will win titles and be up there with them fighting it out . For me that means giving our current manager more time and backing from the owners and fans . I cant see him takiing us backwards in any way - we are up there now and we wont fall down . Yes rafa has made mistakes - every bloody manager has - even the greats . Rafa has done things and made us think WTF - but Rafa has made us competitive . As i have said to saint in a pm when we were chatting about this - This next summer is the crucial one - how he is backed by the owners and how he spends that backing and what players he brings in and if any of the youngesters he has bought can be brought through to the first team . Anyway end of my novel .

Summary- lets give Rafa a bit more time - let him see if his youngsters he has bought can come through and lets see if he can get the final bits to his jigsaw and see if that jigsaw can win us the title .

[Scottbot]

What worries me, is that if we manage to somehow win the title this year, Benitez may see that as a justification for all the nonsense he's inflcted on the team during the season and continue that next season...but I don't think he'll get away with it two years in a row.

What worries you!!! !!!

Mate, if Rafa Benitez wins the title this year I will be too busy kissing the guy's feet to be worrying about anything, and I will see it as absolute justification for any of the nonsense that has gone on before.

[GYBS]

Yes i thought it was strange as well Scottbot - there is nothing worrying about winning the title . And surely if we do win the title then it is justification of what Rafa has done - but i expect there will still be people who will think we won despite Rafa not because of him which is why there is prob people out there who think we are challenging despite rafa and not because of him

[Judge]

looks like my initial  was warranted

[112-1077774096]

well one thing is a fact, it is not in our own hands anymore, those draws saw to that. for us to win the title this season the mancs need to slip up twice while we need to win all our games

[GYBS]

Slip up once if we win all our games .

[Judge]

well one thing is a fact, it is not in our own hands anymore, those draws saw to that. for us to win the title this season the mancs need to slip up twice while we need to win all our games

if we win all our games, that includes beating the mancs (the customary 6 pointer), then we could effectively win it !!