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by **Redrider** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:47 pm

He just hopes for the sake of the fans and the shareholders that the directors urgently secure a deal and get on with it, as it is clear that the club badly needs investment."

The above quote from Morgan sum's the whole affair up for me. Parry and Moores need to get their act into gear, whether it is Morgan, L4 or another,
we need to move.

by **jim_morrison_supported_liverpool** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:00 pm

stmichael wrote:It's quite simple.

He made public the cost of the new stadium to lower the value of the club. That is not the action of a true fan.

Redrider did you not read this?

by **Redrider** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:22 pm

jim_morrison_supported_liverpool wrote:
stmichael wrote:It's quite simple.

He made public the cost of the new stadium to lower the value of the club. That is not the action of a true fan.

Redrider did you not read this?

Jim, Nothing either for or against Morgan myself.
My view is simply that we need a new impetus at the management helm of the club. Moores is a great guy who has pumped a lot of money and passion into the club, but Parry is not the fastest gun in the west or the sharpest knife in the footie management draw. He has presided over some bum deals with Foullier and let us down with the sale of McManaman and Owen. RM have a laugh every time they see Parry coming !!
We urgently need both new money and some new financial management expertise.
I think parry is stalling trying to retain his position at the club !!

by **jim_morrison_supported_liverpool** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:37 pm

on the contrary, i think its simply a case of trying to find the right people for the job. i mean look at the debate this all causes.its not straightforward and makes a decision hard. its obvious Morgan is a tool, so the board are right to have "stalled" the decision to accept his offer.

by **L-type** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:29 am

against, but not that it matters now cus he just withdrew. Who knows though maybe it's to get Liverpool to actually consider his offer and to give him the bargaining chip.

by **The Canadian Red Army** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:39 am

yes i am in favour
because i wouldnt want L4 to be running the club, running an american football team comes with no heart. How would that translate to if he bought liverpool, all we would be is something to make money. If their is someone else besides L4 then ok, but if its just them then liverpool gods help us.

by **Thinkpad** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 6:48 am

jim_morrison_supported_liverpool wrote:
stmichael wrote:It's quite simple.

He made public the cost of the new stadium to lower the value of the club. That is not the action of a true fan.

Redrider did you not read this?

Totally disagreed with what stmichael has said. It is just his opinion that is skewed against Morgan. It is so easy to take a stab at Morgan for his every good intented moves could be made into vicious intent. It is so easy, every tom dick and harry could throw dirt on Morgan's face and make claims he is not a true fan. Would a true fan hide the actual cost of the stadium or maybe to an extend falsified P&L? Would a true fan unwilling to let someone come in with money eventhough it would dilute his share? Would a true fans refuses to make way for the betterment of Liverpool? Would a true fan pay GH millions to leave?

Sometimes I think the fans don't use their head to think, they believe passion is their head. Unfortunately, history do not favours people who can't think. Liverpool will suffer in the long run if we do not take drastic action to stem our decline. We are slowing losing our appeal to fans. While other clubs are growing their fan base, Liverpool is losing theirs.

Everyone is afraid of change, but if we don't change we are doomed. So stop thinking with your heart but your head and put the interest of the club first and foremost so we can claw our way back to the top for the long term.

by **Redrider** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:34 am

Some good points there Thinkpad.
Personally I know nothing about Morgan, other than he is a self made business man. However, I have to say I was well impressed when Morgan stood up at the Shareholders meeting in 2003 and told the management that they were making a mess of running the club and that Houllier was just not up to the job. For me he was delivering the words that every thinking Liverpool Fan had on their minds. It was Morgan who made Parry and Moores sit up and take notice and there lies the reason why they are not keen to take him on to the board. Because Moores knows when he sells his share to Morgan that Parry will eventually be fired by Morgan.
Morgan like the rest of us, realises that we have a very relaxed management style at Anfield and he would wish to inject some steel into our business affairs.
Sadly, I feel that Parry is looking for a Financial injection to the club that leaves him in a managing position, which may delay any new deal being settled and we may miss an opportunity to srengthen the team, fail to qualify for the CL, lose Gerrard and gradually solidify our status as a second rate outfit.
Parry may yet lead us to a new lower level of ignominy.

by **Redrider** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:21 pm

Big time politics being played here :

Morgan's still hopeful of Anfield investment Dec 22 2004
Exclusive by Andy Hunter, Daily Post

STEVE MORGAN still harbours hopes of investing in Liverpool despite withdrawing his latest £70million offer and launching another attack on the Anfield board yesterday.

Watch this space !

by **Ola Mr Benitez** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:45 pm

From what I have read there are lots of people slagging Morgan off but without any real reasons. I see him as a lifelong fan who like most people on this forum wants to take the club forward. The only thing I know about him is what has already been mentioned earlier about him not agreeing about Houllier as manager, and how many of us here, can put our hand on our heart and say we didn't agree with him.

I like Moores, a lot, the guy in LFC through and through, but I do not have a lot of faith in Rick Parry. The higher ranks of management have never been the same since Peter Robinson left, a true gent and a sh1t hot business man, who know football inside out. How we could do with some of his wisdom now.

by **Redrider** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:55 pm

In full agreement with Mr B.
The more I look at what is going on the less regard I have for Rick Parry.
I hope whoever takes over or invests see's through this guy who is currently leading us nowhere, but round in circles as he manouvers to retain the best position for himself.

by **jim_morrison_supported_liverpool** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:01 pm

some one on here is saying that the board and fans should think with our heads and not with our hearts. i think that is exactly what is happening!! it is generally agreed that the board need new investment for the club to compete. the board are not against this idea. if they were to jump staright in with Morgan's proposal then that would not be "using your heart". the fact they've deliberated shows to me that they are thinking about it properly before coming to a huge decision. i think its been proven they were right, as i said before, apparently Morgan now has "better things to be doing" rather than being embroiled in this Liverpool takeover affair. he doesnt even understand the boards situation. anyone in their right mind would consider all offers carefully before choosing one. because he's not getting his way he's bein a bitch. F*ck him.

by **Ola Mr Benitez** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:19 pm

His offer has been on the table for over 12 months.. You have to kinda understand his frustration

by **jim_morrison_supported_liverpool** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:31 pm

in a way yes, but if your bid is rejected then you have to accept that also, and understand that there may be perfectly decent reasons for it, not conduct yourself in the way he has.

by **Thinkpad** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:35 pm

jim_morrison_supported_liverpool wrote:some one on here is saying that the board and fans should think with our heads and not with our hearts. i think that is exactly what is happening!! it is generally agreed that the board need new investment for the club to compete. the board are not against this idea. if they were to jump staright in with Morgan's proposal then that would not be "using your heart". the fact they've deliberated shows to me that they are thinking about it properly before coming to a huge decision. i think its been proven they were right, as i said before, apparently Morgan now has "better things to be doing" rather than being embroiled in this Liverpool takeover affair. he doesnt even understand the boards situation. anyone in their right mind would consider all offers carefully before choosing one. because he's not getting his way he's bein a bitch. F*ck him.

As OMrB has mentioned, it is not something new out of the pan thing. If you understand takeover, it is normally done within a time frame not "let me take my time to review". Such review are done with consultants that are tasked to handle take over and such casses. In business a take over bid normally has at most 2 weeks valid period after which the offer lapses. Else the company can apply for an extension which must be agreed to by the offerer.

The way Liverpool takeover has unfold is a joke.

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