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[7_Kewell]

sign Aguero 

He's on more than 200,000 grand at City...and where would he play? We needed a WINGERS...we also needed cover for Gerrard....which is what we've bought.

As for the defence, it's looking like we've agreed a deal for Enrique...so that's left back covered too.

Anyway, who exactly are you comparing us to? Man Utd? They've sign a central defender and a young goalkeeper who's too young.  Arsenal?  they've signed no one and sold players they can't replace....Spurs?  Signed no one....Chelsea?  done little bar one player.

You're talking balls lad

[eds]

sign Aguero 

He's on more than 200,000 grand at City...and where would he play? We needed a WINGERS...we also needed cover for Gerrard....which is what we've bought.

As for the defence, it's looking like we've agreed a deal for Enrique...so that's left back covered too.

Anyway, who exactly are you comparing us to? Man Utd? They've sign a central defender and a young goalkeeper who's too young.  Arsenal?  they've signed no one and sold players they can't replace....Spurs?  Signed no one....Chelsea?  done little bar one player.

You're talking balls lad

So you honestly think that the 3 signings we have made are good enough to get us in the top 4?   

Errr yeah I was comparing us to the top 4, isn't that what needs to be done here my green headed friend

Manure don't need to strengthen as much as we do, they won the title FFS. Arsenal have signed Gervinho and are on the cusp of signing Mata. I don't think Chelsea have spent any money yet because of their new coach and Man S**ty can literally throw money at anyone.

I am not going to bother anymore........ 

[7_Kewell]

so you're giving up because you're argument is lost. Fair enough 

[The Good Yank]

I have a fair idea how they have played at other clubs and what level of football they can bring to our club and from what it looks like they just aren't good enough. Just like Woy of the Wodgers wasn't good enough last season, I don't need to see them at Liverpool to have a fair idea of what they can bring. FFS we could have used that money we spent on Henderson and Adam to sign Aguero, I know I am speculating but we just HAVEN'T thought this out have we? What is our obsession with signing a first XI of central midfielders! WE DON'T NEED THEM!!!!

And still I digress from my main point, once again so you understand WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY..... just compare our squad and new signings with the top 4 clubs, just compare them. What's that?.......nothing......silence.....that's right the reality is without taking risks in the market, without spending money WHERE IT IS ACTUALLY NEEDED, we won't be competitive with the other top sides. Especially when we don't have european football to incentivise any new signings!

Kenny did a fantastic job last season, but I really think we actually overachieved with the dross we have, 3 new signings will not take us to the title as some lemmings are jumping up and down on this thread about! It will only sustain us at 5th or 6th if we are lucky.

I am not saying let's go out and spend hundreds of millions like Man Sh*ty but we need to be wise with what are doing, I just don't have any belief we are doing that at the moment. We need defensive cover (a CB and LB) and a quality (maybe experienced) 3rd striker. If the owner's dont have anymore money to spend, WHY HAVE THEY SPENT IT on the areas we don't need them to? It doesn't make any sense???   

As for your points on deadwood sitting on high salaries, if I am a loyal supporter I would put myself in Henry's shoes. One of my main priorities would be to work out how to get rid of them. Do you honestly think that at any multinational giant corporation around the world shareholders would put up with their CEO coming out, shrugging his shoulders saying "nothing I can do" at an annual meeting when one of the key problems hampering the company's growth and development is raised? Do you? Why should we be any different?

And before I hear the same boring cliches of "calm down", "the season hasn't started yet", "let's be patient" try and retort what I have said. The only thing that will calm me down, have a coke and shut me the f**k up is if we start bringing in cover for the areas we most need it in and quality nor quantity like the past. I think a fair few supporters would agree with what I have just said.

I disagree and I think all three signings are improvements to our squad.  Downing and Adam were arguably the best players at their respective clubs last year.  Downing has looked very good so far and brings something we haven't had in ages.  Adam has had some spells in matches where his passes switching play have been superb, better than anything else we have in the side.  Henderson is a versatile midfielder whith some pace who shows a good eye for passing around and some creativity. 

IMO they improve us, I agree on paper our squad isn't as strong as those above us, but the gap is narrowing.  As far as Aguero, yeah, it would have been great to sign him.  But it was never going to happen.  No European football, and we aren't going to give out 200,000 per week contracts  like they are confetti.

We finished 6th with an outside shot at CL heading into the final month of the season.  This after a first half that had us actually a bit concerned about relegation for FFS.  A full season of Luis Suarez won't hurt our chances as well.

As far as competing with the top 4.  Well, last season we did the double over the Chavs.  Split with the Mancs and City and drew against Arsenal twice.  I think that's pretty competitive.

Moving onto defensive cover, It's still the first week of August.  It appears we have oars in the water and are adressing those needs as well.

Moving on aging players on large wages on longterm contracts is never going to be an easy task and we'll see how that will play out.

Having said all that.  Calm Down, the season hasn't started yet, let's be patient.

[laza]

It was proved under Rafa Benitez that you cannot win the league on the cheap, with just clever tactics etc. his only Big name signing was Torres.

Well if Kenny signs some unknowns like Reina and Alonso I be more then happy

[crazyhorse]

Ther players we have brought in a not world beaters, but they are what we needed. Dont get blinkered becasue we have not signed Aguero or Mata. Big names as they are they are only one part of a jigsaw.

We already have big players here. Gerrard, Suarez, Carroll (by virtue of fee), Meireles, Aqua ect ect. No they are not all world class but a top four finish is not reliant on the profile of your new signings. It depends of having the right blend of talent.

Give it a chance!

[Ola Mr Benitez]

Ther players we have brought in a not world beaters, but they are what we needed. Dont get blinkered becasue we have not signed Aguero or Mata. Big names as they are they are only one part of a jigsaw.

We already have big players here. Gerrard, Suarez, Carroll (by virtue of fee), Meireles, Aqua ect ect. No they are not all world class but a top four finish is not reliant on the profile of your new signings. It depends of having the right blend of talent.

Give it a chance!

Sensible post

[Scottbot]

I feel we're a quality centre-half away from being right in there in the mix for 3rd and 4th place. Without one I'm scared for our defence and suspect we will more than likely end up 5th/6th or having to spend big in January to fix the problem when it might be too late.

you can't do anything in this league if you don't defend well. I'd be more than happy with a 0-0 draw in our final pre-season game against Valencia this Saturday. It would give me some confidence that we haven't completely forgotten how to defend.

[stmichael]

you can't do anything in this league if you don't defend well.

last season after kenny came in we conceded the least number of goals in the league (13). it suggest that things are not as bad as suggested. although skrtel has his flaws, he must be doing something right considering he played every minute of every game and he had a different defensive partner every week. i suppose a lot of credit has to go to the fullbacks aswell though. johnson was a man transformed under kenny and the young kids flanagan, kelly and robinson were nothing short of a revelation.

we do need another centre half though as carra isn't an automatic starter imo, skrtel is inconsistent, agger is always injured and the greek is there as backup. kelly in the long term may be the answer. wisdom the same. but as for now we could do with a player who will slot straight into the side.

[mart]

Ther players we have brought in a not world beaters, but they are what we needed.

I'm not so sure about that. If we had bought what we needed we would have brought in a few defenders first. Downing could be useful as we didnt have any classic wingers, but imo adam and henderson isnt any better than what we already had. Now we are still lacking at the back and have a selection problem in midfield.

I'm more positive now that it looks like enrique is coming but we still need at least one CB.

[Bad Bob]

Take a fookin breath and try to use some perspective.

Fiar play for trying, mate, but I think this one's a lost cause.   

[crazyhorse]

Come the end of last season everyone was going on about how tight the defence was. Yes a left back is essential and it would seem that we have one..and a CB is also important.

However we have had to buy the players we have in the order that they were available. I am sure there will be movement in the defence and we will all be wondering what the fuss is about.

[Joeblackisachimp]

It was proved under Rafa Benitez that you cannot win the league on the cheap, with just clever tactics etc. his only Big name signing was Torres.

Well if Kenny signs some unknowns like Reina and Alonso I be more then happy

Im sorry but I think most LFC  fans had not even heard of Alonso before he signed from Real Sociedad, and Reina was not even Spains number one. (Casillias was) Hd anyone heard of him before he singned?

I wish some posters would get their IQ's sorted out before posting tosh.

[7_Kewell]

Alonso was known to quite a few footie fans, 'cos Manure and Arsenal tried to sign him at one stage or another.

[laza]

Im sorry but I think most LFC  fans had not even heard of Alonso before he signed from Real Sociedad, and Reina was not even Spains number one. (Casillias was) Hd anyone heard of him before he singned?

I wish some posters would get their IQ's sorted out before posting tosh.

Maybe before you putting stunning little internet taunts  to try garner some attention on a internet forum you should actually think about it

Point being made Mr Mensa man, you consider our signings are unknowns as you also consider Reina and Alonso were unknowns.

I end the post here  and let you work out the rest