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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:57 pm

maypaxvobiscum wrote:formation didnt work this time. but i think the sending off is the reason as it left a huge hole in the middle. alonso wasnt good enough to deal with it. and gerrard looked lost.

The system was working. And working well. The sending off ruined us.

And people slating Kuyt in this game are completely clueless about football. He was making some great runs, intelligent link-up play, and worked his socks off as usual. He was our pivotal player up until the sending off.
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Postby The Kid Torres » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:58 pm

Let's be brutally honest.

Out of that 11 today, only Mascherano, Gerrard and Torres would stand any chance of getting into there starting 11.

Carragher is class but no better than Ferdinand or Vidic.

Alonso on current form is not any better than Anderson or Carrick.

Ryan Babel looks every bit a forward that is playing out of position.
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:59 pm

heimdall wrote:
SupitsJonF wrote:First half:  Poor decision by Reina, defence played decent at best.

Gerrard covered exceptionally well, Torres too.  Alonso wasn't here.

Second Half: Everything before + 10 men and a few other factors.


Bad day and outplayed and away at a big stadium and a man down. 

I still beleive with some real wingers and a strong defense this team can beat Man U.

Nope there is more to it than just new players, I was warming to Rafa again after recent non rotation and good results but today again highlighted the problems, lack of imaginative tactics, persisting with that useless footballer Kuyt and an inability to get the lads fired up for the big premiership matches.

Here is my wish list for the summer, DIC to finally come in with 100% ownership, sack Rafa and get the best manager available and give him sh1tloads of money because we need some serious investment if we are to compete with Chavski, Arsenal and especially Manure.

Warming to Rafa after a few wins, eh?

I do wish you'd stop talking cack, because that's all this post was...cack.
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Postby Feugo » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:00 pm

maypaxvobiscum wrote:what if masch didnt get sent off?
what if it was hyypia, who has more experience played instead of skertel in defence?
what if pennant, who is trickier and faster was playing instead of kuyt?
what if torres had crouch to knock down balls to him?
what if we reverted back to 442 where stevie g would be in central midfield?

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Postby 7_Kewell » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:00 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:formation didnt work this time. but i think the sending off is the reason as it left a huge hole in the middle. alonso wasnt good enough to deal with it. and gerrard looked lost.

The system was working. And working well. The sending off ruined us.

And people slating Kuyt in this game are completely clueless about football. He was making some great runs, intelligent link-up play, and worked his socks off as usual. He was our pivotal player up until the sending off.

we weren't good enough BEFORE the sending off and we struggled after. We were never going to win today.  Gerrard was off form, Alonso didn't perform and Reina was all over the place.
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Postby The Kid Torres » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:01 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:formation didnt work this time. but i think the sending off is the reason as it left a huge hole in the middle. alonso wasnt good enough to deal with it. and gerrard looked lost.

The system was working. And working well. The sending off ruined us.

And people slating Kuyt in this game are completely clueless about football. He was making some great runs, intelligent link-up play, and worked his socks off as usual. He was our pivotal player up until the sending off.

How it amuses me when people with a different opinion to that of others insist that those that don't agree with his or her opinion knows nothing about the game.

In my opinion, Kuyt was garbage. He may run around a lot but so could Roger Black. He's of little threat to quality opposition and therefore defenders simply don't need to man mark him, which if they did would create space for others.

His first touch was woeful, he lost the ball every time he had it and his lack of pace is embaressing for a player currently deployed on the wing.
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:03 pm

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Emerald Red wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:formation didnt work this time. but i think the sending off is the reason as it left a huge hole in the middle. alonso wasnt good enough to deal with it. and gerrard looked lost.

The system was working. And working well. The sending off ruined us.

And people slating Kuyt in this game are completely clueless about football. He was making some great runs, intelligent link-up play, and worked his socks off as usual. He was our pivotal player up until the sending off.

we weren't good enough BEFORE the sending off and we struggled after. We were never going to win today.  Gerrard was off form, Alonso didn't perform and Reina was all over the place.

What makes you think that? We played some good stuff and got behind them a few times. We were causing them problems and were the better team up until the sending off. We were unlucky to concede, and how the match went on longer with us still having our shape and 11 men, then I do feel we'd have at least drawn if not won.
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Postby gato_busta » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:03 pm

Since Masch's first card I fot worried he would be sent off. When Crouch started warming up I thought that Rafa would probably bring him on for Masch and change to a 4-4-2, unfortunately Masch did not last that long. I agree with bigmick, Skrtel was pretty much to blame for the forts two goals, especially the first one. Brown only got to the ball because Skrtel put his back as support for him. If he would have just tried to cover him from reaching the ball Reina would have gotten to it with ease. We really need Agger back on the team as Skrtel doesn't seem ready yet to me.

Other than that, Reina had horrible distribution throughout the whole game. He gave the ball away too often, something that is not common for him. Nobody really stood out in the team, we created very few chances. The ref did destroy any chance we had to win the game, giving out yellow cards, calling out every little foul for united. At one point, our players seemed too afraid to make a tackle, I really think he destroyed our morale and any possiblity for a counter attack. the refs decitions were really awful.
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Postby heimdall » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:04 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
heimdall wrote:
SupitsJonF wrote:First half:  Poor decision by Reina, defence played decent at best.

Gerrard covered exceptionally well, Torres too.  Alonso wasn't here.

Second Half: Everything before + 10 men and a few other factors.


Bad day and outplayed and away at a big stadium and a man down. 

I still beleive with some real wingers and a strong defense this team can beat Man U.

Nope there is more to it than just new players, I was warming to Rafa again after recent non rotation and good results but today again highlighted the problems, lack of imaginative tactics, persisting with that useless footballer Kuyt and an inability to get the lads fired up for the big premiership matches.

Here is my wish list for the summer, DIC to finally come in with 100% ownership, sack Rafa and get the best manager available and give him sh1tloads of money because we need some serious investment if we are to compete with Chavski, Arsenal and especially Manure.

Warming to Rafa after a few wins, eh?

I do wish you'd stop talking cack, because that's all this post was...cack.

Why don't you actually try reading a post instead of just seeing who the poster is??

Was it wrong of me to warm to Rafa? Maybe I should be as blinkered in my view as you are, completely inflexible eh?

How on earth can you say that Kuyt played well? He was useless as usual, constantly in the wrong position and every time he got the ball he gave it away, he is a waste of space, in effect we were playing with 9 men at the end!
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:06 pm

The Kid Torres wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:formation didnt work this time. but i think the sending off is the reason as it left a huge hole in the middle. alonso wasnt good enough to deal with it. and gerrard looked lost.

The system was working. And working well. The sending off ruined us.

And people slating Kuyt in this game are completely clueless about football. He was making some great runs, intelligent link-up play, and worked his socks off as usual. He was our pivotal player up until the sending off.

How it amuses me when people with a different opinion to that of others insist that those that don't agree with his or her opinion knows nothing about the game.

In my opinion, Kuyt was garbage. He may run around a lot but so could Roger Black. He's of little threat to quality opposition and therefore defenders simply don't need to man mark him, which if they did would create space for others.

His first touch was woeful, he lost the ball every time he had it and his lack of pace is embaressing for a player currently deployed on the wing.

How was he garbage? From what I seen of him, all our attacking momentum was built from most of his play. He held the line well and linked up well with the mid-field. This system (with Kuyt) has been proving successful lately. Like I said, the sending off f*cked our shape. We'd no plan B.
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:06 pm

heimdall wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
heimdall wrote:
SupitsJonF wrote:First half:  Poor decision by Reina, defence played decent at best.

Gerrard covered exceptionally well, Torres too.  Alonso wasn't here.

Second Half: Everything before + 10 men and a few other factors.


Bad day and outplayed and away at a big stadium and a man down. 

I still beleive with some real wingers and a strong defense this team can beat Man U.

Nope there is more to it than just new players, I was warming to Rafa again after recent non rotation and good results but today again highlighted the problems, lack of imaginative tactics, persisting with that useless footballer Kuyt and an inability to get the lads fired up for the big premiership matches.

Here is my wish list for the summer, DIC to finally come in with 100% ownership, sack Rafa and get the best manager available and give him sh1tloads of money because we need some serious investment if we are to compete with Chavski, Arsenal and especially Manure.

Warming to Rafa after a few wins, eh?

I do wish you'd stop talking cack, because that's all this post was...cack.

Why don't you actually try reading a post instead of just seeing who the poster is??

Was it wrong of me to warm to Rafa? Maybe I should be as blinkered in my view as you are, completely inflexible eh?

How on earth can you say that Kuyt played well? He was useless as usual, constantly in the wrong position and every time he got the ball he gave it away, he is a waste of space, in effect we were playing with 9 men at the end!

Clueless.  :kungfu:
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Postby Toffeehater » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:07 pm

redsince2001 wrote:
Toffeehater wrote:funny what would the score have been without reina , a keeper who bottles during big matches

thats totally unfair .......

i was being sarcastic abt the last part , reina was the MOTM , prob shows why he's the best keeper in the league , fecking :censored: off and all my mates texting me the scores
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Postby 7_Kewell » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:07 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:formation didnt work this time. but i think the sending off is the reason as it left a huge hole in the middle. alonso wasnt good enough to deal with it. and gerrard looked lost.

The system was working. And working well. The sending off ruined us.

And people slating Kuyt in this game are completely clueless about football. He was making some great runs, intelligent link-up play, and worked his socks off as usual. He was our pivotal player up until the sending off.

we weren't good enough BEFORE the sending off and we struggled after. We were never going to win today.  Gerrard was off form, Alonso didn't perform and Reina was all over the place.

What makes you think that? We played some good stuff and got behind them a few times. We were causing them problems and were the better team up until the sending off. We were unlucky to concede, and how the match went on longer with us still having our shape and 11 men, then I do feel we'd have at least drawn if not won.

we were doing ok? ???

  We were LOSING 1-0....we hadn't had a shot on target, the scum had hit the post and forced several saves and Reina was throwing the ball to the opposition.  We weren't the better team and even with 11 men we were always going to lose today.  Just be thanksful it was only 3-0....
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Postby Toffeehater » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:08 pm

hijjawi wrote::: Goals ::

1-0 W.Brown (Min 34)
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2-0 C.Ronaldo (Min 80)
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3-0 Nani (Min 81)
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:: Extras ::

Rooney One On One Chance (Min 6)
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C.Ronaldo Chance Hits The Post (Min 24)
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Gerrard Shoot (Min 26)
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Giggs  Shoot (Min 32)
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Mascherano Red Card (Min 44)
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C.Ronaldo Free Kick (Min 54)
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Rooney Chance (Min 56)
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Tevez Chance (Min 74)
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will u feck off already , no one wants to see the goals  :angry:
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Postby SupitsJonF » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:08 pm

Reina the MOM?  Were you watching or just joking?
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