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[112-1077774096]

I asked a question in another thread last week, the question was never answered and the thread was locked, so I thought lets start a thread and gauge opinion.

I don't want any names mentioned, I don't want you to link a quality to a certain manager, this is not a rafa out thread or a jose in thread.

So the question:

What qualities do you think the manager of LFC should have? as an example do you think he should have league winning experience as a manager? Do you think he should be humble or outspoken? etc etc etc

I was going to limit it to 5 qualities but what the hell, list as many as you want, and remember, name no names you rapscallions

[112-1077774096]

mmmm 25 views and still nobody prepared to put their neck on the line

[GYBS]

answered the question on another thread have a look and you will see it .

[112-1077774096]

well I can't be bothered traipsing through the forum mate, please cut and paste it in here so it can all be discussed in one place. cheers

[stmichael]

Maureen has all the pedigree in terms of what he has won but the guy's attitude goes against everything that Liverpool FC has built it's history on. I mean the Inter fans hate him already and he's only been there five minutes. People will trot out the line that he's won the title at three clubs now in three different leagues but so has Sven Goran Eriksson and I don't see people ever bigging him up in any way.

This is the man who having made a fantastic living out of working in this country, accused Reading of risking the life of his goal keeper by not doing enough to help him. He also accused the amubulance service of criminal neglect which just wasn't true! This is the same guy who lied through his teeth about seeing the Barcelona manager in the referee's dressing room at half time.

I also found it staggering that the guy feels it's ok to come out and say that he would go back to Chelsea whilst still manager of another club and nothing is said. On the other hand, when Rafa has the balls to talk out about Ferguson and how bent the refs are he is classed as losing the plot and by his own fans told that he should have kept his gob shut.

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Maybe it would be easier peewee if we just nominate one :-

Man management skills. Able to inspire, motivate and keep the players happy, even when they are not getting regular football. Houllier was so good at this that even when a player knew he had no chance of ever playing for the first team again he still wanted to stay at Liverpool. Thankfully we finally managed to prise Diao out the door

Players are all different , some need a kick up the backside occasionally , while others need an arm round the shoulder and some encouragement. I think that sometimes we play with a little too much fear of making mistakes, and not enough confidence in our ability. I think we could play a more expansive game rather than a percentage game.

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I also found it staggering that the guy feels it's ok to come out and say that he would go back to Chelsea whilst still manager of another club and nothing is said.

Surely that is only the same as what our manager has said time and again about Real Madrid ?


That better peewee 

[112-1077774096]

no names 

[Igor Zidane]

Loyalty to the fans , self belief , deterimination , accountability . Honesty ,

Without any of these ,we would never of had Bill shankly . He set the benchmark .

[112-1077774096]

I also found it staggering that the guy feels it's ok to come out and say that he would go back to Chelsea whilst still manager of another club and nothing is said.

Surely that is only the same as what our manager has said time and again about Real Madrid ?


That better peewee 

[Bam]

Okay.

IMO he should have title winning experiance, preferably in England but even on the continent would suffice. I think that experiance is essential for any new manager managing a title challenging team, being able to cope with the pressure and take alot of it (or as much as he can) away from the players is a big help. Especially with a team like ours who have never challenged for the league.

And what goes hand in glove with the ability to handle pressure and take it off the lads, would be good man-mangement skills. After these last five years with Rafa, I'd take time out to look for this in a new manager. I believe the arm-around the shoulder type goes a long way with the players and their attitude towards the manager. I've know doubt you'll get at least 10-15 % out of each player if you praised them on the training ground, after matches, when and where needed. I dont think being a cold fish is helps the players atall, like many have said a good man-manager will be able to get his players running through brick walls for them. Explain the reasons why he has left a certain player on the bench yet still make him feel important to Liverpools cause.

I'd prefer a humble guy like Rafa, this to me just gives a good image to the club and therefore a more likeable guy. But in saying that, had we a Brian Clough type manager who speaks his mind with some funny and even cringeworthy comments, I could shrug it off so long as he was doing the business.

Tactical nouse is a must, but not over complicating things as Rafa has done or seems to do. I'd like a manager who primarily works out how to beat the opposition, rather than a manager who works out how to stifle the oppostion. I'd like a manager who lets his players play that little bit more cavalier, and not worry about the opposition. Lets face it we're better than 17 other teams in the league and its upto us to break them down and let them worry about us.
Our game patterns in the final third would  needed to be worked on and more emphasis on killing teams off would be a good mindset infused into the players minds under a new boss.
Again in saying that, if he was a pragmatist of a manager and did the business it wouldnt bother me. But I think we've really choked in this department, i.e instead of winning matches we've been drawing them and the pragmatic side hasnt helped.

Its never easy, but a manager who has the ability and influence to persuaed top class players to join LFC. Like Rafa has done with Torres and Mascha. While we're on the subject of transfers, I'd like to see a manager who doesnt use the scattergun approach in the transfer market. The ever revolving door is a sign of bad buys and unease amongst certain players.

A manager who is stubborn, but not blindly so. Who when things dont work has the capability and bottle to try another way. Even if its not his cup of tea.

He shouldnt be a yes man to any of the owners, like Rafa. He needs his own mind and own sights.

Sounds almost like the perfect manager ...... Is he out there ?

[Owzat]

Okay.

IMO he should have title winning experiance, preferably in England

So that makes for a short list, unless you go back beyond the Premiership

Alex Ferguson - never going to happen

Arsene Wenger - I have thought maybe he could do a job, as long as he doesn't persist in dismantling title winning sides

Jose Mourinho - clever when it comes to buying with a bottomless pit of money, even then he made big mistakes at Chelsea. Doing well at Inter, but Houllier did well at Lyon so that doesn't always mean a lot

Kenny Dalglish - never go back? Hasn't done a lot since Blackburn

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Howard Wilkinson? George Graham? Howard Kendall? Not sure it would work anyway, just because a manager won the league at one club doesn't mean they will at another.

[Bam]

Okay.

IMO he should have title winning experiance, preferably in England

So that makes for a short list, unless you go back beyond the Premiership

Alex Ferguson - never going to happen

Arsene Wenger - I have thought maybe he could do a job, as long as he doesn't persist in dismantling title winning sides

Jose Mourinho - clever when it comes to buying with a bottomless pit of money, even then he made big mistakes at Chelsea. Doing well at Inter, but Houllier did well at Lyon so that doesn't always mean a lot

Kenny Dalglish - never go back? Hasn't done a lot since Blackburn

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Howard Wilkinson? George Graham? Howard Kendall? Not sure it would work anyway, just because a manager won the league at one club doesn't mean they will at another.

I didnt say it would, but it would help IMO. Oh and you didnt quote the continent bit. 

[Owzat]

As for what qualities, well I say they need to be :-

- better tactically than Rafa, better use of substitutions
- less worried about losing than Rafa and so realise that draws cost points like losses do
- better transfer acumen than Rafa, able to spot bargains better and not spend lots on ordinary players - or at least not turn them into ordinary players by his use of them
- more tempered skills than Rafa regards public speaking and dealing with players, far too many players speaking out for my liking.


I think even with the quality of squad we have, the manager should be able to beat the weaker teams and compete with the likes of Man Utd and Chelsea. We can beat them, we've shown that three times out of three this season, and we can beat other clubs, but we are currently unable to win games we should be winning and that's either down to the squad or the manager. The players have shown they can beat the best and beat the rest, but still we don't look like becoming champions.

Teams Played Twice 08/09

04. Chelsea - won home, won away
06. Everton - drew home, won away
07. Wigan - won home, drew away
14. Bolton - won home, won away
15. Portsmouth won home, won away
17. Stoke - drew home, drew away

Three 'doubles' done, we can only do the double against seven more teams of the 13 we have left to play and so have dropped points against nine different teams already this season. Five sides have managed a draw at Anfield, that is disappointing considering Chelsea and Man Utd were both beaten so not among the five.

[stmichael]

It's all about finding a balance as a manager aswell. At the end of the day, the manager has to win first and foremost, but with football fans paying so much to watch these days, they expect some form of entertainment aswell. Being good to watch doesn't necessarily make you a good manager though, just ask Newcastle fans who watched Keegans' team in the mid 90s.

You could say the same about us under Evans. Our brand of football under Evans was superb imo and I loved watching us play as we were great to watch going forward, helped by some promising local lads in Fowler and Mcmanaman.

Yet he had to go, can you remember how poor we were defensively? Back then we were big spenders, breaking transfer records on Babb. How many times did he try to solve our ability to not defend crosses? Ruddock, Song, Wright, Kvarme (shudders).

I think we were too naive as a team under Evans, despite being incredibly entertaining and he had to go. Houiller started the revolution at the club and Benitez's period has been more of an evolution in my opinion.