damjan193 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:33 am wrote:Where did I say that they sign whoever they please? Like I said, Rodgers picks his players and that's it. Other people negotiate prices, contracts etc. He has the final say but not in terms of amounts paid. I think that that's how it works because most businesses work like that. How can you know for a fact that it works otherwise? Wait, don't tell me, you have a buddy of a buddy that knows the tea lady in our club, right?
We're getting away from the point. I was just trying to say that what you're saying is unfair. The "we should have went for Lovren" argument is ridiculous because there was no way of knowing he would be this good. It could have easily been the other way around, us overpaying for Lovren and Sakho turning out to be a bargain for someone else because Sakho DOES have the potential. He's no donkey, he's no Djimi Traore, he is a good player that can turn out to be great for us. It's too bad we overpaid but that doesn't make Sakho a bad signing.
Firstly you don't need to know who or what I know. I'm not going to sit here and tell you because its completely irrelivant.
Again you're reverting to opinion with regards to a transfer negotiation as apose to cold hard facts.
I'm not disputing that other members of the board discuss contracts and fees, but you're very wrong to say a manager has NOTHING to do with it. He has the final say on how the budget is spent. Especially at this club. That is a cast iron fact. He ok's it. He says to the board I want Sahko, the board enquire, they'll tell him how much roughly then negotiations will start. Rodgers will set the ceiling on the transfer value and will have a say on the fee. If he doesn't, how the f*ck can he plan his summer signings?
Do you really believe he hands a christmas list to santa and then the board go off and do their own thing? Do you honestly believe that budgets and fee's aren't discussed with the manager?
I'm telling you, the manager finalises the deal.
And as I've previously mentioned, you can tell who is going to be "that good". Its simple, if a player is good enough, they'll perform. If they aren't, they won't. Plain as day. The only ridiculous arguement here is to suggest otherwise. Players ability level's are plain as day to see if you know what you're looking for. Its not hard to judge a player, just the uneducated don't understand how it works. Some are better than others at it and its clear as day that Rodgers isn't great in this area. You judge every individual attribute then build a picture of the player and the use you can make of him. You judge attributes in the same way, whether its passing, pace, stamina or strength. Usually by comparisson and by quality and consistency.
Alot of people base potential on physical attributes, just as they did with Babel, Traore, Sissoko, Baros etc etc. Funnily enough, just because you're big, quick and strong doesn't mean you have "potential". To be quite honest, I get bored of listening to the same ***** over and over every time we sign an average player or a player who simply isn't that good. Its all people ever say, and quite frankly, its complete and utter *****.
Back to the point, which was clear as day Sahko isn't a better player than Daniel Agger and isn't an improvement on Skrtel or Toure. So what the f*ck are we spending £17,000,000 on him for? You say £17,000,000 for someone who is at best is a squad player... thank f*ck you aren't the one running our club. For seventeen million, we could have signed two good players who would improve the side. Not one average one, who can't get a game unless we change the system. Even then he'd struggle when all are fit!
