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[Lando_Griffin]

holy is a muppet he is just backing up lando i think he is lando just backing him self up to make sure sure he isnt only one saying twisted facts

Was i talking to u !!!

holy go out and get some mates then you dont have to have convos in forums and you get so upset when people reply to your comments.

Whereas you're down the pub with your mates, right?

[LegBarnes]

sorry to bust up the little ding dong here, but lets get back on topic.  I'll be honest I havent read all twenty odd pages but here is my tuppence about todays match.

Will the real Liverpool please stand up?

We have a great squad of players and a manager who is being followed by all the top clubs in Europe, so how come Luton battered us??  We are lucky still to be in the FA cup today, Luton deserved to win and not just because they battled better than us, but because they passed better, worked as a team better and really created the better chances.

In all my years I have never seen a Liverpool team play so badly.  Jamie Carragher was the only player who could put his hand on his heart and say "you know what I did ok today".. the rest of them should be ashamed.

So whats the reason??  We don't suddenly become a bad team and lets face it the line up was a good one, this wasn't a Liverpool reserve team, it was packed full of class.  Carragher, Finnan, Hypia, Alonso, Lucas, Crouch.  and the rest of them are hardly !  It looked to me like we just didn't want it.  Did we win a single 50/50 ball? I have never seen so many passes go astray.  Are the players starting to get caught up in the media frenzy about whether Benitez is resigning/getting sacked.  Is Rafa setting the team up wrong?  Can he no longer motivate a talented squad?  Was it just bad day at the office?

I don't know any more what to think but one thing is for sure, if things do not improve on the pitch soon, we will need to look for another manager, coz at the end of the day this is a results game and at the moment we are not getting the results, and to make it even worse we are not even playing well against opposition we should be blowing away.

just what i said before lando the hater of many gave me jip about it the 50/50 balls was thing that me off the most they didnt look like they wanted to play for there manager let alone for there club very worring indeed .

glad i am not only one to spot that.

I beg your f*cking pardon?

You jumped into my discussion with Saint, you pompous little sh*t.

i rly i was posting long before that.

Why does every post you do finish with a insult do you have problems making friends in real life or is it just because no one speaks to you ?

please try to to post with out you bloody this and you bloody that remeber we are all liverpool fans here.

I think you'll find you started with the "fat b*stard", "Pie-eater", "Rafa's bum-boy" sh*t.

If you can't take the heat, stop putting your ugly mug in the fire.

now i know you sit in ya mummy house eating beans out of cans sitting in ya underpants all sweatie like the fat guy in film se7en. rofl lmao oooo the image !!!!! 

[RUSHIE#9]

Today was extremely, extremely disappointing. Can't believe that Dirk Kuyt lasted 90 minutes. The guy's confidence is clearly on the floor and he may be suffering with grief following the death of his father but surely to God he should have been sacrificed before Babel? The only players to do well today were Carragher and Hyppia in central defence. The rest were average to poor. The reality of the situation is that we are getting worse. Drawing at home to the likes of Birmingham and Wigan while losing away to Reading is bad enough but drawing away to a club whose players haven't been paid recently? That's just not good enough IMO. The football we are watching of late is absolutely atrocious also. We go to the games expecting to be entertained but leave with a huge sense of frustration and on many occasions, anger. Okay, it is true to say that Rafa is shopping in the equivalent of Tesco with Grant and Ferguson in Harrods but there are some players in the squad at the moment not fit to wear the shirt. Kewell and Benayoun are too lightweight and Kewell doesn't give a toss in any event, Voronin looks overweight and disinterested and did you see the state of him today, shivering and whimpering when he came on? WTF?? He comes from the Ukraine for Christ sake. If that was me waiting to get on for Liverpool, in an FA Cup tie, I would be raring to go. Dirk Kuyt's form is abysmal while Riise has been septic for a while now. There are three options as I see them. A - the Americans back Benitez publicly and give him the cash to make us competitive. B - they sack him and bring in somebody who will be given the cash. C - they get the hell out of there themselves. Meanwhile, Manchester United wrap up their 17th league title to go within one of us while we are getting our house in order (yet again). It's ridiculous and even though I have been a Rafa fan for a long time now, I am becoming increasingly disillusioned. His rotation policy is really beginning to grate and the style of football is horrible. i.e. long punts forward from Carragher, Hyppia and Riise. If we didn't have Torres, we would be a mid-table team this season and that's a fact. Him and Gerrard are our only two matchwinners whereas Chelsea, Arsenal and United have class all over the pitch. We're just not good enough and be honest with yourselves here. Are we any closer to winning the title now than when Benitez took over? No.

I think this is a very good post and some very good points are raised about one or two of our players. Going on the performance today (if it can be called that) it was made blatantly clear that not only are alot of our squad players very poor in quality but most of them in fact aren't fit to wear the red shirt at all.
Carragher is the only one who can really hold his head up high tonight. Maybe one or two of the youngsters like Lucas and Babel don't deserve too much criticism because they are young and are learning their trade still. However players like Riise, Kuyt, Finnan, Alonso, Benayoun and Voronin did absolutely nothing to cover themselves in any kind of glory today. In fact I wouldn't shed any tears if one or two of them never appeared in a Liverpool shirt ever again. Some of the more established players like Alonso, Riise & Finnan were very poor at the basic fundamentals of the game today and in all honesty they have been for a while now. Whatever the reason for this slump in these players form is they need to start backing up their big words that we are getting day in and day out in the press about putting performances in.

Rafa doesn't escape criticism either. He has again in my opinion under estimated a lower league team in the cup and has nearly paid for it. We could so easily have been sat here tonight reeling from the biggest upset in F A Cup history since Wimbledon beat us in '88.

Although nobody at Anfield will openly admit it, the whole Rafa and the Yanks debacle IS in my opinion taking it's toll now. I just get the feeling now that the players are fully feeling the pressure that Rafa is clearly under themselves and that is transforming on the pitch in our more established players. It's no surprise that today we've witnessed the worst performance this season after the morning papers were again full of stories regarding Rafa's future. It's high time Parry, Hicks and Gillett took each others balls out of their mouths and back or sack the manager (hopefully back) publicly.

My fear is that things are gonna get rockier before they get smoother. 

[Sabre]

Moving on..... I am starting to get a little worried about the number of times we are taking the lead in games and then allowing teams to come back at us. I can't remember when we have had as bad a season as this one for that. Chelsea ,Arsenal ,Spurs , Wigan, Luton and then all the games were we scored first, then they came back, before we eventually crushed them Villa, Reading (lc), Cardiff, Porto, Derby.

Usually when we score first, its game over, but this season we just haven't been able to close the door as usual.

I personally feel that once Agger is back, and Alonso has recovered his fitness, this will rectify itself.

Maybe Agger, Lando but looking at the games mate Alonso played in most of them........... not that I'm saying it was all Alonso's fault 

Funny how any other player gets time to recover fitness and form, but Alonso isn't.

Here's an interesting fact:

We scored today with Alonso on the pitch.

We conceded soon after he went off.

Coincidence?

Possibly.

I still haven't seen the game, but I disagree that Alonso was having a bad season until his injury. It's untrue he was doing a bad season, and it's there written in this forum. But you know, people start repeating he's been below average and at the end it seems true.

But I do think he needs some time to get back at his best, so I hope people concede him that despite they have their favourite players.

[holylamb2006]

rofl lmao oooo the image !!!!! 

Plz keep ur images to urself .....

[Lando_Griffin]

can we have a new manager now and not waite till the summer!!!


yes i know i will get stick for that.

Think yourself lucky you're not within striking distance.

How the f*ck was that Rafa's fault?

1/ HE PICKED THE TEAM

2/HE'S THE ONE THATS SUPPOSED TO MOTIVATE THEM

3/HE PICKS THE TACTICS (if we had any)

4/HE BOUGHT KUYT

5/WE DIDN'T WIN SO ITS HIS FAULT   

Yep, you're absolutely right - he was on the pitch and just played W*nk, didn't he?

Rafa scored the own goal.

Rafa made the strikers play sh*t.

Rafa gave Luton the energy to give a performance above themselves.

Rafa, Rafa, Rafa.

You're beginning to sound like a broken record mate. Face facts - managers can't do a f*cking thing about players having off-days once they're on the pitch.

He's beginning to sound like a broken record? You'd want to check your own posts, lad.

So who would you blame for the performance tonight? Or last week? Or last month. Or for the more often than not, negative, supporter soul-sapping and boring football a Liverpool team has ever produced, over the last three seasons?

Well it seems to me that our good results are despite Rafa, yet our bad ones are because of him.

SO this works, huh?

Listen, vulture:

I have never and will never said Rafa hasn't made mistakes. But similarly, I won't lambast the bloke when it was OBVIOUSLY the players at fault today.

Get it?

Okay, but I'm guessing that these footballers that play for us knew the basics of passing, moving and control. They play for us and suddenly, can't do that any more? Where would you point the finger?

So Rafa's managerial skills are the reason why they played sh*t, correct?

F*ck me.

Well, something's rotten in Denmark, Lando. Maybe Rafa has lost the dressing room or something. Or because of the old 'r' word, the competition for places isn't as high and so the hunger isn't as tip-top as it should be. Something's amiss.

Yes - something is amiss.

I personally think it's just a dip in form.

[Leonmc0708]

Take 10 minutes to cool of hey boys, I will not allow ANOTHER thread to turn into petty name calling.

Thread re-opens at 9.05pm.

[Leonmc0708]

Play nicely children.

[destro]

Play nicely children.

You are late 

[LegBarnes]

ok to calm you all down who wants to marrie my sister i want her to marrie a liverpool fan so .

[account deleted by request]

Moving on..... I am starting to get a little worried about the number of times we are taking the lead in games and then allowing teams to come back at us. I can't remember when we have had as bad a season as this one for that. Chelsea ,Arsenal ,Spurs , Wigan, Luton and then all the games were we scored first, then they came back, before we eventually crushed them Villa, Reading (lc), Cardiff, Porto, Derby.

Usually when we score first, its game over, but this season we just haven't been able to close the door as usual.

I personally feel that once Agger is back, and Alonso has recovered his fitness, this will rectify itself.

Maybe Agger, Lando but looking at the games mate Alonso played in most of them........... not that I'm saying it was all Alonso's fault 

Funny how any other player gets time to recover fitness and form, but Alonso isn't.

Here's an interesting fact:

We scored today with Alonso on the pitch.

We conceded soon after he went off.

Coincidence?

So now you are blaming it on a bad substitution by Rafa ? 

[LittleHobo]

im sorry i called you a pie eater lando

make friends make friends never ever break friends

and barnesy, incest isnt a good thing son  you should not be thinking those thoughts about your sister

[Lando_Griffin]

Moving on..... I am starting to get a little worried about the number of times we are taking the lead in games and then allowing teams to come back at us. I can't remember when we have had as bad a season as this one for that. Chelsea ,Arsenal ,Spurs , Wigan, Luton and then all the games were we scored first, then they came back, before we eventually crushed them Villa, Reading (lc), Cardiff, Porto, Derby.

Usually when we score first, its game over, but this season we just haven't been able to close the door as usual.

I personally feel that once Agger is back, and Alonso has recovered his fitness, this will rectify itself.

Maybe Agger, Lando but looking at the games mate Alonso played in most of them........... not that I'm saying it was all Alonso's fault 

Funny how any other player gets time to recover fitness and form, but Alonso isn't.

Here's an interesting fact:

We scored today with Alonso on the pitch.

We conceded soon after he went off.

Coincidence?

So now you are blaming it on a bad substitution by Rafa ? 

This is the thing, though: It's stupid to blame one thing/person.

Everyone wants to think that Mascher is god, when he clearly isn't.

Digressing to the points I was raising with Mick in the "out of the league" thread - there's much more to it than "This is to blame".

Many factors contribute to things - not just the manager or a single player.
(FWIW I don't actually think that the Alonso/Mascher sub had much at all to do with our conceding today, at least, not directly.)

[LegBarnes]

im sorry i called you a pie eater lando

make friends make friends never ever break friends

and barnesy, incest isnt a good thing son  you should not be thinking those thoughts about your sister

i dont she is model and she is just signed with samantha bond and is gonna be on BBC soon in doc just dont want her marrie some other football fan and putting up with them for rest of my dayz 

[Lando_Griffin]

im sorry i called you a pie eater lando

make friends make friends never ever break friends

and barnesy, incest isnt a good thing son  you should not be thinking those thoughts about your sister

No probs lad. Sorry for calling you a thick-b*stard p*ss-drinker, or whatever it was.