parchpea » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:15 pm wrote:200 games for Liverpool which is some achievement and yet proof in
itself how ordinary we have become.
Lucas is seen as one of our leading lights and a kingpin of the Liverpool
team and yet would not get a game at any other leading club in this
division or Europe.
If he can rack up 200 games here then that in itself is a snapshot of how
mediocre and deluded we are.
kazza » Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:06 am wrote:
To think he was booed and made fun of constantly when he first came by his own fans. He kept his head down, stayed focused on improving and made himself into a massively important player for us (we can probably cope without Gerrard easier than without him). Should be a Liverpool legend just for that! I would like to see him take a bigger role in his national side as that will help improve him more.
kazza » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:06 am wrote:
To think he was booed and made fun of constantly when he first came by his own fans. He kept his head down, stayed focused on improving and made himself into a massively important player for us (we can probably cope without Gerrard easier than without him). Should be a Liverpool legend just for that! I would like to see him take a bigger role in his national side as that will help improve him more.
Kenny Kan » Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:59 am wrote:Still believe he is overrated by LFC supporters.
Yes, we missed him in midfield earlier this season but any team would miss their one and only DM.
We need, IMO another DM who ideally can either play alongside Lucas, or for Lucas to play second fiddle to.
No questioning his commitment and effort but I don't think we will pull up any trees relying on him to protect the backline and distribute the ball. We haven't in 200 games to this point anyway.
woof woof ! » Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:01 pm wrote:Kenny Kan » Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:59 am wrote:Still believe he is overrated by LFC supporters.
Yes, we missed him in midfield earlier this season but any team would miss their one and only DM.
We need, IMO another DM who ideally can either play alongside Lucas, or for Lucas to play second fiddle to.
From the few interviews I've seen I've really warmed to Lucas as a "person" and despite bashing him early in his LFC career subsequently I've been wishing only good things for Lucas.
I thought Mascherano maybe inhibited Lucas' game as after Mash left Lucas suddenly began to "step up" and show he had more in his locker.
He did have a very good season last term BUT despite that and my new found respect for Lucas, I still kind of agree with what Parchpea said earlier this yearNo questioning his commitment and effort but I don't think we will pull up any trees relying on him to protect the backline and distribute the ball. We haven't in 200 games to this point anyway.
A very good player, unfortunately as things stand we need a great one.
Fowler_E7 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:19 pm wrote:Lucas is an average player, always has been always will be. He’s
improved a lot from the complete rubbish he was when he first arrived but let’s
not kid ourselves into thinking he’s some kind of great player. Its no
coincidence that Lucas improvement has coincided with our decline as a
team, he’s nowhere near the level of Mascherano, Alonso or even Sissoko. He
looks better because he’s the only DM we have and he’s plays every game, however if we don’t improve on him with a proper DM we wont ever get back to where we were even a few years ago.
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