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Au contraire - it IS about winning. And that's exactly what we did.

True it is, but why did we make a mountain out of a molehill, in beating a taxi driver and a binman etc ?

If your clearly satisfied with that performance, then you wont mind us finnishing fifth this sreason will you, and you'll probably see it as "heading in the right direction knowing you.

[account deleted by request]

This has got to be the first time I've ever read that 5-2 isn't a good win...

You'd think that we'd lost, reading the sh*te on here...

Come on Lando the first half performance was terrible, its just not about winning. Sometimes its good to see a great performance, and lets not forget we were playing against a team of part-timers, it was pretty embarrising out there out times.

Au contraire - it IS about winning. And that's exactly what we did.

What i don't get is this:

Why is it ok to coast into a lead, then lose 2 goals, but it's not ok for us to go behind twice, then have (and show) the character to come from behind and tw*t them?

The mind boggles, it really does...

Because at least then you have an excuse, rather than having to say you were OUTPLAYED by a team of part-timers for 45minutes.

You try to defend the undefendable at times mate. Winning 5 -2 in the manner we did against a team of part-timers was not some great victory, but a shambolic display of ineptitude.

If you are going to hide from the truth like this mate, theres not much point really is there?

Maybe we should release a video of the game or include it in our greatest games? 

Then again maybe it was a great win, we certainly arn't getting many of them in the league at the moment are we. 

[laza]

I chalk it down to magic of the FA Cup, its not the first time that bunch of part timers have left  their more highly fancied opponents red faced. Its what still makes this cup the special one.

Not a great performance but we are into the next round and if we win the thing, who will give a damn about that game

[account deleted by request]

I chalk it down to magic of the FA Cup, its not the first time that bunch of part timers have left  their more highly fancied opponents red faced. Its what still makes this cup the special one.

Not a great performance but we are into the next round and if we win the thing, who will give a damn about that game

As an isolated result maybe Laza, but coming on the back of our recent results of one win in our last 6 games (and that was against Luton )and it becomes slightly more worrying and indicative of greater problems than just "the magic of the cup".

[laza]

I chalk it down to magic of the FA Cup, its not the first time that bunch of part timers have left  their more highly fancied opponents red faced. Its what still makes this cup the special one.

Not a great performance but we are into the next round and if we win the thing, who will give a damn about that game

As an isolated result maybe Laza, but coming on the back of our recent results of one win in our last 6 games (and that was against Luton )and it becomes slightly more worrying and indicative of greater problems than just "the magic of the cup".

Its no win situation Saint
If we had won 10-0, I wouldnt be taking that as a sign we had turned the corner in our recent poor form

[Toffeehater]

OMG Kuyt hasn't scored! what a surprise!

haha oh , lets blame crouch for once??, how many did he waste??
Kuyt had what abt 10 mins? , crouch had 90 mins and 1 goal wasting abt 4 chances

But he scored though? how many does kuyt waste and not score? Hes , and no-one can argue that fact without being serious, still at least he's still warm with his liverpool shirt on his back after the game, must know that his shirt wouldnt fetch the reserve when it goes on ebay so they left it alone

yes u're right he scored yes what i am trying to say is that how many did he waste before that and not to forget they were part timers , also if kuyt ahd those chances , he would have scored , he had 1 decent shot and he came closer then crouch was all afternoon , he hit the post ! Cut kuyt some slack

neither crouch or kuyt are good enough.  kuyt is awful but no way is crouch good enough.  We need far better than these two.  Until some world class wingers, dynamic fullbacks and a top CF is found we are going to be stuck at the level where are now.

Thank u Einstein , now enlighten us on where the money is to come from ? We have a squad good enough to challenge and prob win the title , the problem this season is our inability to take our chnaces and that has costed us games and points which has led to us being 12 points behind the league leaders

We dont even create that many chances.  This year is no different to last.  Whenever a side comes to anfield and challenges us to break them down its a struggle.

wonder what games or team u have been watching , manchester city , we dominated them , but no end product , CHELSEA , manchester utd , aston villa??? Those are just the few , yes we strggled against luton but hammered them at anfield , we just beat this lot today 5-2 , we had some many chances , crouch wasted so many!!

[Toffeehater]

well done to havant, they did themselves proud

just a bit worried really how players like pennant, babel,crouch, skertel, finnan, mascherano all looked average even against non league opposition

pennant had a good game , his ability to beat players and crossing has improved , i think he set up 2 yesterday . Also those who said pennant was lazy , yesterday he ran back a couple of times to help defend. This is the first game i have seen mascherano poor in , his passing was off , his shooting hit the defenders so many times , after lucas got his first goal for the club , in spectacular fashion , u could see mascherano wanted to score . Skrtel , this was his debut , he was nervous , first game for a big club , not totally match fit , at least he made 2 last ditch tackles , he'd improve , i want to see rafa gradually introduce him to the team like he did with agger. Babel had a good game , he troubled them , set up crocuh's goal i think it was , but then it's pretty evident that he's not that effective as a winger , i think it's abt time rafa wakes up and plays kewell there , as he's more consistent and play babel upfront with torres. Crocuh , missed so many today , i think its time we sold him as he doesn't really provide much , he could have gotten a hat tricker like benayoun but unlike crouch , benayoun is a poacher , he takes his chances. Finnan , i guess he's finally beginning to show his age like sami but i think he's the best right back we have now unless we skrtel there when he's fit , if not i think in the summer we have to sign a quality full back

[Toffeehater]

well done to havant, they did themselves proud

just a bit worried really how players like pennant, babel,crouch, skertel, finnan, mascherano all looked average even against non league opposition

pennant had a good game , his ability to beat players and crossing has improved , i think he set up 2 yesterday . Also those who said pennant was lazy , yesterday he ran back a couple of times to help defend. This is the first game i have seen mascherano poor in , his passing was off , his shooting hit the defenders so many times , after lucas got his first goal for the club , in spectacular fashion , u could see mascherano wanted to score . Skrtel , this was his debut , he was nervous , first game for a big club , not totally match fit , at least he made 2 crucial  tackles , he'd improve , i want to see rafa gradually introduce him to the team like he did with agger. Babel had a good game , he troubled them , set up crocuh's goal i think it was , but then it's pretty evident that he's not that effective as a winger , i think it's abt time rafa wakes up and plays kewell there , as he's more consistent and play babel upfront with torres. Crocuh , missed so many today , i think its time we sold him as he doesn't really provide much , he could have gotten a hat tricker like benayoun but unlike crouch , benayoun is a poacher , he takes his chances. Finnan , i guess he's finally beginning to show his age like sami but i think he's the best right back we have now unless we skrtel there when he's fit , if not i think in the summer we have to sign a quality full back

[Owzat]

This has got to be the first time I've ever read that 5-2 isn't a good win...

You'd think that we'd lost, reading the sh*te on here...

Come on Lando the first half performance was terrible, its just not about winning. Sometimes its good to see a great performance, and lets not forget we were playing against a team of part-timers, it was pretty embarrising out there out times.

Au contraire - it IS about winning. And that's exactly what we did.

What i don't get is this:

Why is it ok to coast into a lead, then lose 2 goals, but it's not ok for us to go behind twice, then have (and show) the character to come from behind and tw*t them?

The mind boggles, it really does...

So if we play like that away to Chelsea, Bolton, Man Utd and Arsenal you are betting we'll win how many of those games? Maybe the Bolton game perhaps, maybe, possibly.

Yes we won, we won comfortably in the end, but it was shocking even if it wasn't actually a shock. Now it's just four clean sheets in the last fifteen games, and that includes games against Wigan, Havant, Luton, Derby, Reading and boro. And in among that we've somehow scored 34 goals, four or more on SIX occaisions adding up to 26 goals in those six games and just eight in the other nine in winning just one, drawing five and losing three.

And to compare with the mancs :-

man utd

P15 W12 D1 L2 F34 A7
Clean Sheets x9, 4+ goals x4

Liverpool

P15 W7 D5 L3 F34 A16
Clean Sheets x4, 4+ goals x6

Same number of goals scored, but then they havant played Havant or Luton at home (and Luton away) While they've lost twice, only once more than Liverpool, they've won 80% of their games compared to 46.67% and that's the difference - even ignoring the fact that Liverpool have played THREE lower league sides more

So it isn't good enough, most were expecting a comfortable win but very few were expecting Liverpool to be 0-1 and 1-2 down AT HOME to a team 100+ places lower in the league - even with reserves out

[lakes10]

[ivor_the_injun]

I'm glad that some sense has crept into this thread in the last few pages. To be honest some of the prattle mid-game was absolutely shocking. Any red that refers to a guy that has earned the right to play against their side, and has then taken that chance and acquitted themselves very well as a "f*cking binman" or a "fat f*cking plumber" wants putting on their ar*es IMO.

First half we were appalling, second half we coasted it. Once we took the lead our defensive line was up in their half for most of the half, and it could've ended up double-figures but for some brave defending on their part and a lack of composure in and around the box on ours.

Personally, I read absolutely nothing into the result about anything being wrong at our club. I saw a match that for 45 minutes was f*cking compelling, and would have been an absolute delight to any neutral supporter had they been given the opportunity to watch it live on TV.

No we didn't shower ourselves in glory, but instead of bemoaning our first half performance, let's applaud the opposition who gave everybody a lesson in what the FA Cup should be about. They could've looked at the team sheet, saw all the internationals listed for us and just stood on the edge of their box all game. But did they f*ck. They showed no fear whatsoever, some pretty tidy play, and frankly they were unlucky to go in at half time pegged back to level.

The FA Cup is no place for snobbery, and I f*cking loved it. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on their results in future.

Congratulations Havant & Waterlooville for a performance that did everybody associated with your club complete and utter credit. For us, 45 mins to forget, but job done and onwards. I have no quibbles whatsoever beyond that.

[Scottbot]

TAKEN from RAWK - By S24 LFC - TOP TOP POST

Today i feel proud, proud to be a red, proud to be a Kopite, proud to be associated with Liverpool FC. 

When Liverpool beat Chelsea to reach the European cup final in 2005, i experienced lots of emotions, but the overriding one was of pride. It was, i think, the first time i had felt such pride in the club (players, fans, everyone). Winning the European cup final was about one game, but getting to the final was about a massive adventure, and i think thats what i was proud about.

I'm always proud to be a red, but the level of pride that i feel can change depending on whats going on, that is to say that on occasions, whilst i know i am proud, sometimes it feels different.

Take Athens, an occasion once again to be greatly proud of, but when i was standing watching idiots fighting and thieving from other fans (i saw two occasions of this), i didn't feel proud. I knew that i was, i knew that i always would be, but i struggled to feel it.

Other occasions, in a different context, like when the Alan Smith Ambulance was attacked - we all know it wasn't, but the way the media reported it, made me feel not too good at all. I knew it was rubbish, but millions of people reading the rags the day after associated Liverpool FC with something of a sorry state for the supposed incident.

The dealings of the last 6 months, the airing of 'dirty laundry', Klinsman, Stadium changes, buyouts, loans and constant slating in the papers - again, it shouldn't, but it makes it more difficult to search inside and find that pride. Once again, we always know its there, its unconditional, but sometimes its hard to find - it is though, always there!

Well today i feel it again. Immense pride. Its back and it feels good.

Not for progressing in the cup, or for getting behind our manager - for something far more important in terms of the traditions of our club. The way we treated H&W yesterday. Rightly so too, as they totally deserved it. If Barcelona came to Anfield with the spirit those guys turned up with yesterday, then they too would be treated to the scene which makes us unique the world over. It was an FA-the-most-magical-competition-in-the-world-Cup game, which we know people go on about far too much, but seeing our fans, us, give H&W an ovation that they thoroughly deserved, really made me feel,well, proud.
This post echoes my feelings about yesterday and is the reason i can't get as upset about the manner of yesterday's victory as so many posters on here.


Im 'only' 26, so i missed out on the truly great years on the Kop, but yesterday reminded the whole world what Liverpool Football Club is all about. Long after the final whistle had gone and there wasn't an empty seat on the Kop, everyone had stayed behind to applaud the opposition. There was passion in the applause too, it wasn't just done out of respect, it was meant.



With our league position, trouble at the top, big loans and underperforming players, it doesn't half feel good to be reminded what Liverpool Football Club is really all about.

[LittleHobo]

lando you are the most deluded poster on here.

going behind against a team of bin men,plumbers, builders etc is embarassing

and not once but twice.

the world is laughing at us after yesterday

champions league? your having a laugh

fa cup? no way...the players have lost faith in rafas methods in my opinion

[ivor_the_injun]

lando you are the most deluded poster on here.

going behind against a team of bin men,plumbers, builders etc is embarassing

and not once but twice.

the world is laughing at us after yesterday

champions league? your having a laugh

fa cup? no way...the players have lost faith in rafas methods in my opinion

Read the post above yours, go read everything you can about Liverpool's history, and if you don't then feel like editing your post, maybe you want to go and find another club to support?

I'm not embarrassed in the slightest about the match yesterday. It wasn't a draw, but in the best way neither side lost.

[Toffeehater]

lando you are the most deluded poster on here.

going behind against a team of bin men,plumbers, builders etc is embarassing

and not once but twice.

the world is laughing at us after yesterday

champions league? your having a laugh

fa cup? no way...the players have lost faith in rafas methods in my opinion

Read the post above yours, go read everything you can about Liverpool's history, and if you don't then feel like editing your post, maybe you want to go and find another club to support?

I'm not embarrassed in the slightest about the match yesterday. It wasn't a draw, but in the best way neither side lost.

yes the most important thing is that we haven't lost our class , top post scott , thats what LFC is all  bout