that was the first post i read in that chelsea forum and ... i dont know how to bold a line but...check out the last bit...ill try to bold it but probably wont work....will give it a go anyways.
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Guys,
Please let us have a little faith and look at the positives.
Essien was superb (won many tackles).
We see that Kalou can beat people and has generally good ball handling skills, tackles and gets more involved than Robben.
Sheva can still score goals.
Joe Cole will bring speed in the attack.
Ballack doesn't need to be fast (his passes will be). And by the way he is not injury prone as someone has said. He has just not fully shaken off his injury yet. Best bundesliga player for years.
Ferreira was out of position and will be just fine on the right.
[Liverpool will be played only twice out of 38 games].B
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by aCe' » Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:50 am
Hahahaha...another great one....sorry im getting kinda carried away here but.... too good to miss if you arent checking the forum out ! 
chelsea guy:
"TBH the only positive I can take from this game is that sheva scored a great goal. Now we need Ashley Cole, trade Gallas for Nesta as Gallas is destroying the chelsea team spirit and probably buy Tevez or Adriano."
chelsea guy:
"TBH the only positive I can take from this game is that sheva scored a great goal. Now we need Ashley Cole, trade Gallas for Nesta as Gallas is destroying the chelsea team spirit and probably buy Tevez or Adriano."
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Good article from the Independant on Benitez and Maureen.
It has been clear for some time that in style and good manners, and the refreshing capacity not to mistake even the most important football match for the outbreak of the Third World War, Rafa Benitez is a better man than Jose Mourinho. No doubt Mourinho could scarcely care less. Any man who has to ask, "Does it really matter if we shake hands?" - as he did at the weekend after a second successive refusal to extend the most basic of courtesies to the victorious Benitez - is not in danger of being weighed down by fresh charges that he is the worst of losers.
But here is a question that might just go under his skin as deeply as Benitez's lengthening list of Cup triumphs - and tactical tour de force - over the wealthiest club in football. It asks: does Mourinho take defeat by Liverpool so badly because it nags at an unspoken fear? Does he worry that Benitez is on his way to completing a body of work that will come to shine quite brilliantly beside his own increasingly laboured manipulation of infinitely greater resources?
It would be madness to attribute too much significance to Liverpool's win in the Community Shield, a curtain-raiser with a notorious reputation for falsifying the season's prospects, but then equally who could deny the possibility that at the very least it is was part of an unfolding pattern?
Benitez couldn't dream of acquiring players like Andrei Shevchenko and Michael Ballack this last close season, but he could, at a fraction of the price Mourinho paid for his two latest superstars, continue a reshaping, indeed a reclamation, of the team on which Gérard Houllier lavished so unavailingly more than £100m. He could tighten his defence, provide new width, draw from players like Craig Bellamy and Jermaine Pennant unseen levels of performance from outstanding but largely unrealised talent.
In two years Benitez has re-cast his team, won the Champions' League and the FA Cup - both at the expense of a Chelsea desperate to widen their aura beyond the trenches of the Premiership - and, now, at the dawn of a new season he has taken on a Chelsea of Shevchenko and Ballack, Lampard and Essien, Terry and Robben and drawn from Mourinho rather more than another unedifying display of gracelessness. He has, it is possible to suspect, provoked at least a small shiver of fear.
Benitez has suggested that maybe he has indeed found the measure of Mourinho's Chelsea and their stockpiling of the best available talent. Maybe he has noted that in Mourinho's coaching armoury there are many strengths - but not the most important one of all, the ability to mould a team over the years into a force of rising skill and confidence.
Yes, we know Mourinho exploited prodigiously the modest potential of Porto, led them to an unlikely Champions' League triumph. Yes, he powered Chelsea to their first Premiership title with a largely inherited team. But can we say that, with each megabuck signing, Mourinho's team have moved up a notch? Have their options increased? Have they exploited the width promised by the once luminous Arjen Robben, the scampering Shaun Wright-Phillips and the now departed Damien Duff? Has Michael Essien looked half the player for Chelsea he was for Ghana in the recent World Cup?
We also know that Mourinho's patron, Roman Abramovich, wants so much more than the merely efficient annexation of the domestic league. He was aghast at a second successive failure in the Champions' League, especially in the way of it. He winced as his hugely expensive team were not only beaten but outclassed, subjected to the game of a Barcelona that was made to look like a fantasy.
Abramovich wanted at least a little glamour for his money. So Shevchenko and Ballack came to Stamford Bridge, galacticos amid the infantrymen. Mourinho has to make it work; he has to provide new impetus, and genuine balance. With Ballack, Lampard and Essien all pure central midfielders, that last imperative will not be so easily met.
Meanwhile, the team of Mourinho's Cup-tie nemesis, Benitez, grows in confidence - and depth. Momo Sissoko was the man of the match at the Millennium Stadium, recalling the early, overwhelming days of Patrick Vieira at Arsenal. Sissoko has been groomed carefully by Benitez, who first signed the 21-year-old for Valencia.There were times last season when Sissoko might have been christened "scissors-feet". His tackling was wild and when he had the ball it was more of a embarrassment than a prize, but his leg-span and his heart were enormous and Benitez insisted that soon enough he would be a major force in a new league in a new land.
There was more than a hint of this against Chelsea at the weekend. He will almost certainly never emulate Vieira in creative terms, but he has great potential to be a force of nature on the football field.
If it happens, it will be another indicator that Benitez has another gift of the best coaches, the power to teach. To be fair to Mourinho, there is no doubt Joe Cole, along with Lampard and Terry, has flourished under his command, but there is a point when a coach's motivational powers become less important than his knowledge of how to integrate individual talent properly.
This now is the huge challenge of Jose Mourinho. Mind games, however arrogantly conceived, are not likely to work too well with players of the authority of Shevchenko and Ballack. They have their contracts - and their reputations.
They have come to London to play in a coherent team, and if Shevchenko did benefit from one beautifully delivered pass by Lampard he will not have been overwhelmed by his experience in Cardiff. Liverpool had more balance, more unity, more ideas. They looked like a team who might just be about to leap forward. True to form, Benitez made no great claims for himself or his team. You couldn't project the course of a season on one charity game, he said. But you could see how hard Jose Mourinho took defeat and you could wonder, optimistically, about how many more times your hand would go unshaken.
It has been clear for some time that in style and good manners, and the refreshing capacity not to mistake even the most important football match for the outbreak of the Third World War, Rafa Benitez is a better man than Jose Mourinho. No doubt Mourinho could scarcely care less. Any man who has to ask, "Does it really matter if we shake hands?" - as he did at the weekend after a second successive refusal to extend the most basic of courtesies to the victorious Benitez - is not in danger of being weighed down by fresh charges that he is the worst of losers.
But here is a question that might just go under his skin as deeply as Benitez's lengthening list of Cup triumphs - and tactical tour de force - over the wealthiest club in football. It asks: does Mourinho take defeat by Liverpool so badly because it nags at an unspoken fear? Does he worry that Benitez is on his way to completing a body of work that will come to shine quite brilliantly beside his own increasingly laboured manipulation of infinitely greater resources?
It would be madness to attribute too much significance to Liverpool's win in the Community Shield, a curtain-raiser with a notorious reputation for falsifying the season's prospects, but then equally who could deny the possibility that at the very least it is was part of an unfolding pattern?
Benitez couldn't dream of acquiring players like Andrei Shevchenko and Michael Ballack this last close season, but he could, at a fraction of the price Mourinho paid for his two latest superstars, continue a reshaping, indeed a reclamation, of the team on which Gérard Houllier lavished so unavailingly more than £100m. He could tighten his defence, provide new width, draw from players like Craig Bellamy and Jermaine Pennant unseen levels of performance from outstanding but largely unrealised talent.
In two years Benitez has re-cast his team, won the Champions' League and the FA Cup - both at the expense of a Chelsea desperate to widen their aura beyond the trenches of the Premiership - and, now, at the dawn of a new season he has taken on a Chelsea of Shevchenko and Ballack, Lampard and Essien, Terry and Robben and drawn from Mourinho rather more than another unedifying display of gracelessness. He has, it is possible to suspect, provoked at least a small shiver of fear.
Benitez has suggested that maybe he has indeed found the measure of Mourinho's Chelsea and their stockpiling of the best available talent. Maybe he has noted that in Mourinho's coaching armoury there are many strengths - but not the most important one of all, the ability to mould a team over the years into a force of rising skill and confidence.
Yes, we know Mourinho exploited prodigiously the modest potential of Porto, led them to an unlikely Champions' League triumph. Yes, he powered Chelsea to their first Premiership title with a largely inherited team. But can we say that, with each megabuck signing, Mourinho's team have moved up a notch? Have their options increased? Have they exploited the width promised by the once luminous Arjen Robben, the scampering Shaun Wright-Phillips and the now departed Damien Duff? Has Michael Essien looked half the player for Chelsea he was for Ghana in the recent World Cup?
We also know that Mourinho's patron, Roman Abramovich, wants so much more than the merely efficient annexation of the domestic league. He was aghast at a second successive failure in the Champions' League, especially in the way of it. He winced as his hugely expensive team were not only beaten but outclassed, subjected to the game of a Barcelona that was made to look like a fantasy.
Abramovich wanted at least a little glamour for his money. So Shevchenko and Ballack came to Stamford Bridge, galacticos amid the infantrymen. Mourinho has to make it work; he has to provide new impetus, and genuine balance. With Ballack, Lampard and Essien all pure central midfielders, that last imperative will not be so easily met.
Meanwhile, the team of Mourinho's Cup-tie nemesis, Benitez, grows in confidence - and depth. Momo Sissoko was the man of the match at the Millennium Stadium, recalling the early, overwhelming days of Patrick Vieira at Arsenal. Sissoko has been groomed carefully by Benitez, who first signed the 21-year-old for Valencia.There were times last season when Sissoko might have been christened "scissors-feet". His tackling was wild and when he had the ball it was more of a embarrassment than a prize, but his leg-span and his heart were enormous and Benitez insisted that soon enough he would be a major force in a new league in a new land.
There was more than a hint of this against Chelsea at the weekend. He will almost certainly never emulate Vieira in creative terms, but he has great potential to be a force of nature on the football field.
If it happens, it will be another indicator that Benitez has another gift of the best coaches, the power to teach. To be fair to Mourinho, there is no doubt Joe Cole, along with Lampard and Terry, has flourished under his command, but there is a point when a coach's motivational powers become less important than his knowledge of how to integrate individual talent properly.
This now is the huge challenge of Jose Mourinho. Mind games, however arrogantly conceived, are not likely to work too well with players of the authority of Shevchenko and Ballack. They have their contracts - and their reputations.
They have come to London to play in a coherent team, and if Shevchenko did benefit from one beautifully delivered pass by Lampard he will not have been overwhelmed by his experience in Cardiff. Liverpool had more balance, more unity, more ideas. They looked like a team who might just be about to leap forward. True to form, Benitez made no great claims for himself or his team. You couldn't project the course of a season on one charity game, he said. But you could see how hard Jose Mourinho took defeat and you could wonder, optimistically, about how many more times your hand would go unshaken.
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by red_guy » Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:52 am
Read the cheatski forum......fecking hillarious. "oo we need more players, we can't beat Liverpool 2nd team, lamps need to be dropped, etc".....my God.....what are they thinking? They have the best players money can buy, a complete squad and everything....well, that's why people say," Money can't buy you success".
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by red_guy » Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:19 am
http://www.cfcnet.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18614
"My main issue is that we do not PASS THE BALL ENOUGH. For god sake, Mourinho came from Portugal were they play a very passing game, we need to start doing that. This long ball stuff is really annoying me."
Got that from cheatski forum, judging from that i would say......cheatski's a one trick pony?
"My main issue is that we do not PASS THE BALL ENOUGH. For god sake, Mourinho came from Portugal were they play a very passing game, we need to start doing that. This long ball stuff is really annoying me."
Got that from cheatski forum, judging from that i would say......cheatski's a one trick pony?
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by LFC_fan » Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:35 am
metalhead wrote:LFC_fan wrote:heres the goals / highlights for those of u who havent seen them yet.
highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYRsyhE2ZYM
sheva's goal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAm3elCd1CA
risse's goal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN70mzeG17U
crouch's goal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBHdYzeYH4I
Argh! do you know any other site that I can download the goals from?
I don't know why the saudi internet security blocked youtube!!!
this is a good site, has most of the goals from the primership and champs league though it doesnt carry last week's charity shield goals. i dnloaded most of last season's goals from here, i suggest u bookmark it.
http://latestgoals.net/latestgoals.php
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by Alanay » Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:13 am
Been reading a lot of comments on the Shield match last weekend. Very positive to our club. Even, I notice that even our players responded to the journalist very positively and not slamming Chelcheat players... It's amazing how Rafa is shaping this team.... Let's hope the momemtum keep on going and going.... Premiership title is closing on us!
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by GOAT » Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:12 am
red_guy wrote:Read the cheatski forum......fecking hillarious. "oo we need more players, we can't beat Liverpool 2nd team, lamps need to be dropped, etc".....my God.....what are they thinking? They have the best players money can buy, a complete squad and everything....well, that's why people say," Money can't buy you success".
"TBH the only positive I can take from this game is that sheva scored a great goal. Now we need Ashley Cole, trade Gallas for Nesta as Gallas is destroying the chelsea team spirit and probably buy Tevez or Adriano."
No wonder everyone hates chelski
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by red_guy » Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:17 am
GOAT wrote:red_guy wrote:Read the cheatski forum......fecking hillarious. "oo we need more players, we can't beat Liverpool 2nd team, lamps need to be dropped, etc".....my God.....what are they thinking? They have the best players money can buy, a complete squad and everything....well, that's why people say," Money can't buy you success".
"TBH the only positive I can take from this game is that sheva scored a great goal. Now we need Ashley Cole, trade Gallas for Nesta as Gallas is destroying the chelsea team spirit and probably buy Tevez or Adriano."
Yup. That's why everyone hates cheatski....
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by anti-hero » Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:27 am
GOAT wrote:red_guy wrote:Read the cheatski forum......fecking hillarious. "oo we need more players, we can't beat Liverpool 2nd team, lamps need to be dropped, etc".....my God.....what are they thinking? They have the best players money can buy, a complete squad and everything....well, that's why people say," Money can't buy you success".
"TBH the only positive I can take from this game is that sheva scored a great goal. Now we need Ashley Cole, trade Gallas for Nesta as Gallas is destroying the chelsea team spirit and probably buy Tevez or Adriano."
How fucking stupid does that sound?
You're laughing, but at the same time, you know you just want to kick their asses for being so fucking stupid.
Its like signing big-name players is nothing to them.
"Oh well.. Look at him, that one's good. We'll buy him.. We'll buy that one too. And him.. And him.. How bout that guy? Yeah.. we'll get him too."
I dont know why, but it just makes me want to kick their ass.
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by GOAT » Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:34 am
anti-hero wrote:GOAT wrote:red_guy wrote:Read the cheatski forum......fecking hillarious. "oo we need more players, we can't beat Liverpool 2nd team, lamps need to be dropped, etc".....my God.....what are they thinking? They have the best players money can buy, a complete squad and everything....well, that's why people say," Money can't buy you success".
"TBH the only positive I can take from this game is that sheva scored a great goal. Now we need Ashley Cole, trade Gallas for Nesta as Gallas is destroying the chelsea team spirit and probably buy Tevez or Adriano."
How fucking stupid does that sound?
You're laughing, but at the same time, you know you just want to kick their asses for being so fucking stupid.
Its like signing big-name players is nothing to them.
"Oh well.. Look at him, that one's good. We'll buy him.. We'll buy that one too. And him.. And him.. How bout that guy? Yeah.. we'll get him too."
I dont know why, but it just makes me want to kick their ass.
Yeah, exactly
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by aCe' » Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:44 am
aCe' wrote:Hahahaha...another great one....sorry im getting kinda carried away here but.... too good to miss if you arent checking the forum out !
chelsea guy:
"TBH the only positive I can take from this game is that sheva scored a great goal. Now we need Ashley Cole, trade Gallas for Nesta as Gallas is destroying the chelsea team spirit and probably buy Tevez or Adriano."
MAN ! how come i put it and no one says anything then GOAT quotes it and everyone starts quoting it from him ?! 
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