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[Fo Dne]

We drop points again !! Hope next match Rafa stop playing 5 in the midfield and play Babel and Ngog together upfront.

First Cisse, now Ngog...

What is your fetish with these players?

Ngog shouldn't even be a footballer.

[Emerald Red]

As I said, it didn't matter who he took off, both were as poor as the other. They had no impact and Lucas out of the two is probably the more direct player, where as Mash is a holder. We needed to score, so deduce from that what you will as it turned out that it didn't matter in the end. The boo's were ridiculous, and not since the terrible times in the Evans and Souness era have I heard it like that. At least back then they were somewhat justified, but we were top of the table a week ago when the boos rang down. Why do it at all?

Are you really that stupid lad that you believe what you're saying?

It doesn't matter that he took of Mascherano or Lucas? off ya tool. I'm not Mascherano's biggest fan by a long shot lad, I believe the lads vastly overated but to sit there and say that it doesn't matter that he was taken off and Lucas was left on the pitch doesn't matter is one of the most stupid things you could have said. Mind you, coming from you that doesn't suprise me as whatever spin "in Rafa we trust" puts on it you'll believe no doubt.

Mascherano at 1% is better than Lucas at 100%. FACT!!! Spearing is better than Lucas. Plessis (even tho he's ) is better than Lucas. What a moron you are lad, seriously!

Yes, we've heard this rant before.

[Rush Job]

We drop points again !! Hope next match Rafa stop playing 5 in the midfield and play Babel and Ngog together upfront.

Oh God no, ive been having a go at Keane but at his worst he`s still better than that two.

[bigmick]

Kenny Dalglish.

What like he did at Celtic? Different time, different era. Dalglish won us the title and FA cup off the back of three great managers and the sides they built.

Cant have that Emerald I'm afraid. Dalglish bought Barnes, Beardsley and Aldridge (along with Houghton and one or two others) and in so doing built one of the best Liverpool teams I ever saw.

No, we had this recently when Rafa was being compared to Shankly. Dalglish was a fantastic manager for Liverpool, by all accounts he did a good job at Newcastle too, and he fairly obviously won the title at Blackburn, where by all accounts he spent less money that he was given credit for at the time.

Not saying we should sack Rafa and bring Kenny in, just putting my opinion on Dalglish out there.

[SupitsJonF]

Frustrated or not it is NEVER okay to boo your team at home.  Unacceptable  .

[Emerald Red]

Kenny Dalglish.

What like he did at Celtic? Different time, different era. Dalglish won us the title and FA cup off the back of three great managers and the sides they built.

Cant have that Emerald I'm afraid. Dalglish bought Barnes, Beardsley and Aldridge (along with Houghton and one or two others) and in so doing built one of the best Liverpool teams I ever saw.

No, we had this recently when Rafa was being compared to Shankly. Dalglish was a fantastic manager for Liverpool, by all accounts he did a good job at Newcastle too, and he fairly obviously won the title at Blackburn, where by all accounts he spent less money that he was given credit for at the time.

Not saying we should sack Rafa and bring Kenny in, just putting my opinion on Dalglish out there.

I don't doubt Dalglish at all. Although Blackburn more or less threw copious amounts of money at Dalglish to win them the title. They practically bought it ala Chelsea.

[Fo Dne]

Kenny Dalglish.

What like he did at Celtic? Different time, different era. Dalglish won us the title and FA cup off the back of three great managers and the sides they built.

Cant have that Emerald I'm afraid. Dalglish bought Barnes, Beardsley and Aldridge (along with Houghton and one or two others) and in so doing built one of the best Liverpool teams I ever saw.

No, we had this recently when Rafa was being compared to Shankly. Dalglish was a fantastic manager for Liverpool, by all accounts he did a good job at Newcastle too, and he fairly obviously won the title at Blackburn, where by all accounts he spent less money that he was given credit for at the time.

Not saying we should sack Rafa and bring Kenny in, just putting my opinion on Dalglish out there.

Read Fowler's book. You'll find he had a massive influence ni him signing for the club as a boy and his development aswell.

Mind you, what would Kenny know ay? Everythings different now!

[Fo Dne]

Kenny Dalglish.

What like he did at Celtic? Different time, different era. Dalglish won us the title and FA cup off the back of three great managers and the sides they built.

Cant have that Emerald I'm afraid. Dalglish bought Barnes, Beardsley and Aldridge (along with Houghton and one or two others) and in so doing built one of the best Liverpool teams I ever saw.

No, we had this recently when Rafa was being compared to Shankly. Dalglish was a fantastic manager for Liverpool, by all accounts he did a good job at Newcastle too, and he fairly obviously won the title at Blackburn, where by all accounts he spent less money that he was given credit for at the time.

Not saying we should sack Rafa and bring Kenny in, just putting my opinion on Dalglish out there.

I don't doubt Dalglish at all. Although Blackburn more or less threw copious amounts of money at Dalglish to win them the title. They practically bought it ala Chelsea.

Did he spend over £100,000,000 to take a team who had won a european cup and finished on 82 league points in the top flight backwards? No he didn't. Did Benitez? Of course he did.

[Emerald Red]

Kenny Dalglish.

What like he did at Celtic? Different time, different era. Dalglish won us the title and FA cup off the back of three great managers and the sides they built.

Cant have that Emerald I'm afraid. Dalglish bought Barnes, Beardsley and Aldridge (along with Houghton and one or two others) and in so doing built one of the best Liverpool teams I ever saw.

No, we had this recently when Rafa was being compared to Shankly. Dalglish was a fantastic manager for Liverpool, by all accounts he did a good job at Newcastle too, and he fairly obviously won the title at Blackburn, where by all accounts he spent less money that he was given credit for at the time.

Not saying we should sack Rafa and bring Kenny in, just putting my opinion on Dalglish out there.

Read Fowler's book. You'll find he had a massive influence ni him signing for the club as a boy and his development aswell.

Mind you, what would Kenny know ay? Everythings different now!

So you're saying football hasn't changed in 18 or so years?

[Emerald Red]

Kenny Dalglish.

What like he did at Celtic? Different time, different era. Dalglish won us the title and FA cup off the back of three great managers and the sides they built.

Cant have that Emerald I'm afraid. Dalglish bought Barnes, Beardsley and Aldridge (along with Houghton and one or two others) and in so doing built one of the best Liverpool teams I ever saw.

No, we had this recently when Rafa was being compared to Shankly. Dalglish was a fantastic manager for Liverpool, by all accounts he did a good job at Newcastle too, and he fairly obviously won the title at Blackburn, where by all accounts he spent less money that he was given credit for at the time.

Not saying we should sack Rafa and bring Kenny in, just putting my opinion on Dalglish out there.

I don't doubt Dalglish at all. Although Blackburn more or less threw copious amounts of money at Dalglish to win them the title. They practically bought it ala Chelsea.

Did he spend over £100,000,000 to take a team who had won a european cup and finished on 82 league points in the top flight backwards? No he didn't. Did Benitez? Of course he did.

How'd he take us backwards?

[Rush Job]

I`m staying out of this one.

[bigmick]

Kenny Dalglish.

What like he did at Celtic? Different time, different era. Dalglish won us the title and FA cup off the back of three great managers and the sides they built.

Cant have that Emerald I'm afraid. Dalglish bought Barnes, Beardsley and Aldridge (along with Houghton and one or two others) and in so doing built one of the best Liverpool teams I ever saw.

No, we had this recently when Rafa was being compared to Shankly. Dalglish was a fantastic manager for Liverpool, by all accounts he did a good job at Newcastle too, and he fairly obviously won the title at Blackburn, where by all accounts he spent less money that he was given credit for at the time.

Not saying we should sack Rafa and bring Kenny in, just putting my opinion on Dalglish out there.

I don't doubt Dalglish at all. Although Blackburn more or less threw copious amounts of money at Dalglish to win them the title. They practically bought it ala Chelsea.

One of our statisticians (probably Owz) exploded this myth a while back on here. It turned out that Blackburn had an expensive squad but not the most expensive in the League (I think that was us    ).

Signings such as Shearer were expensive but top value, and it's probably worth considering that Ferguson had to nick Roy Keane from under Dalglish's nose. Had kenny signed the Irishman, God only knows how many honours he's have won with Blackburn.

[Emerald Red]

I`m staying out of this one.

Wise man.

[bigmick]

Football has changed in the last 20 years, but nowhere near so much as some try and make out sometimes. Rotation, styling and the rest has been proven to not work over here for instance, while Ramos feeding his players baby food didn't really catch on either.

To win football matches in England you've still got to be able to battle, you need togetherness, you still need centre halves who are prepared to defend ugly. You've still got to defend properly (zonal marking was around 20 years ago as well), and just about the only differences I can think of defensively is the advent of the "holding midfielder", and the tendancy to defend set-pieces facing the attacker you're marking rather than the ball. 4-5-1 in the Chelsea/Mourinho/Makeleli was quite innovative, while some of the screening in front of star players has become slightly more sophisticated. It's still essentially about the same thing though, and the good players of 20 years ago would have been good players today.

[LegBarnes]

Not in the slightest bit suprised by the result or performance.

This season is turning out to be a very very strange one indeed. Liverpool are top without playing well consistently (infact only in a handful of games) and Everton are also in a decent position (for them) without also playing well. The standard of the league this season has definately taken a downturn with Chelsea seeming a less formidable side, Arsenal crumbling against any slightly physical side and United slightly weakened by replacing Tevez with Berbatov.

What we have to look at though is United have played all of last seasons top ten sides away from home. They don't have to go anywhere of any real note from now on in.

Make no mistake, with this squad of players we will have done well to finish 3rd this season which is where i see us ending up.

Benitez should go now and give us a chance to build for next season. We need to line up a replacement now and it needs to be someone who knows and understands the club otherwise Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carraghers best years will pass us by and we'll have no-one to replace them with.

So who would you put in his place, then?

Kenny Dalglish.

Some who knows what they are doing and understands the club. Someone who wouldn't make stupid decisions and substitutions. Someone who knows the club inside out and loves the club. Someone who understands the game and would play our best players and play them in there natural positions.

Dalglish would come back if the offer was right. I'm sure of that. He would couldn't refuse to work with players like Gerrard and Torres.

I am absoloutely sick of Benitez to be honest and I'm extremely frustrated in him wasting our time and money. He built an excellent side then didn't know how to take it forward. It looks like he's now at the same stage again and has stagnated. This club will never win the league with him in charge so now is a good time to change before the new manager has to come in and replace Gerrard and Carragher, because whoever has to that is going to struggle big time. Of that I absoloutely gaurantee you!!!

Me too I don't care if his little girl speaks scouse no reason to keep a manager that has lost touch with the players and fans imo.

I also used to think i like him as a person but more i see of his stubboness more i dislike his char.

Also kenny is good shout but would Tit@ even know who he is let alone get him into the job.