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[Bermenstein]

If the league finished today" we'd be champions!!.

Just a thought

[neil]

Rafa has a big variants book then does he, has he lost the key to it or something, how often does his substitutions produce a goal, how often does he change tactics in the middle of a game? Am I missing something here apart form a team capable of getting motivated by their manager and therefore able to score goals against fecking West Ham and Fulham at home!!
This is clearly just a poor joke now, I personally hope Rafa doesn't get the contract extension, he doesn't deserve it after the last few matches, in fact this season we have scraped a lot of narrow wins but haven't once truly controlled a match, we are arguably worse than the second half of last season, it's just that the other top teams are also wobbly at the moment but that won't last for ever.

Quality post this, but not in a good way. Benitez' statistics of substitutions making an impact in a game have been better than any manager in the league over the past 4 years. There was a very insightful thread about this over at RAWK with plenty of stats for all you stats whores and doubters. Do a bit of research before you start spouting off.

As for the game, I'm seriously disappointed with us not making up more ground than what we should be. Our confidence just seems a bit low at the minute for some reason. We're perhaps slightly just lacking a player, bar Torres of course, of being good enough to eventually win the title this season, but who knows. If we get to January and we're still top of the table, who could ask for more than that?

Oh, we all can have a go at the players and even the manager, but people seem to omit the fact that the fans inside Anfield have been f*cking shyte, lets be honest about it. There's some quality whoppers going to the game, and it's a disgrace that 1000 or so West Ham fans out sang everyone inside Anfield tonight. The players need to show passion, aye, but so do you w@nkers inside the ground. Where the f*ck has the atmosphere gone to that we're meant to be so famous for? Sort it f*cking out!

you cheeky f4ckin tw4t, your a d1ckhead.

[LegBarnes]

Rafas not a man manager though. We cant expect him to change his style of management to accomodate 1 player can we? Keane should buck up and make the most of his time so that Rafa doesnt keep subbing him. I know its harsh but under Rafa its the only way he will survive. If not he will be out after 2 years maybe.

A good manager will  have alot of styles and fit the players he has to make the best of what he has got.

Plus rafa bought this player remeber if he doesn't fit into the system that is rafas fault why pay 20 mil for a player that don't fit into your system.

Making any sense ?

Rafa wanted Barry though.... and ended up with Keane.

so save the fu.cking 20 mil don't spend it just bcos you can't get the player you want no excues.

I dont dissagree mate.

I know i just think its madness how rafa is setting up his players to fail then chatting in post match interviews about how we had chances and didn't take them.

How will that help the likes of keane with his confidence.

Lets be honest about it, Keane was muck tonight, and he knew it. If you asked him, he'd be the first to say he was shyte and he deserved to go off.

yes but is he a lone striker ? can you tell me with your footballing knowlage I know you have some you post good stuff on here , that he is ?

You know he plays in hole its like asking anelka to be a target man it won't happen.

I remeber days that we have defending specialist like sweepers some of those defenders couldn't play CB well at all.

Imo there are 3 types of striker there is the channel runner IE owen , Torres.
In the hole Or some like to call shadow striker Rooney/keane.
Or a target man a kuyt/drogba if you make any of those players play other roles up front lost if not all will find it hard if not impossible.

So before saying keane was dire think why it was its bcos rafa puts square pegs in round holes as he has done since he joined us.

[LegBarnes]

Rafa has a big variants book then does he, has he lost the key to it or something, how often does his substitutions produce a goal, how often does he change tactics in the middle of a game? Am I missing something here apart form a team capable of getting motivated by their manager and therefore able to score goals against fecking West Ham and Fulham at home!!
This is clearly just a poor joke now, I personally hope Rafa doesn't get the contract extension, he doesn't deserve it after the last few matches, in fact this season we have scraped a lot of narrow wins but haven't once truly controlled a match, we are arguably worse than the second half of last season, it's just that the other top teams are also wobbly at the moment but that won't last for ever.

Quality post this, but not in a good way. Benitez' statistics of substitutions making an impact in a game have been better than any manager in the league over the past 4 years. There was a very insightful thread about this over at RAWK with plenty of stats for all you stats whores and doubters. Do a bit of research before you start spouting off.

As for the game, I'm seriously disappointed with us not making up more ground than what we should be. Our confidence just seems a bit low at the minute for some reason. We're perhaps slightly just lacking a player, bar Torres of course, of being good enough to eventually win the title this season, but who knows. If we get to January and we're still top of the table, who could ask for more than that?

Oh, we all can have a go at the players and even the manager, but people seem to omit the fact that the fans inside Anfield have been f*cking shyte, lets be honest about it. There's some quality whoppers going to the game, and it's a disgrace that 1000 or so West Ham fans out sang everyone inside Anfield tonight. The players need to show passion, aye, but so do you w@nkers inside the ground. Where the f*ck has the atmosphere gone to that we're meant to be so famous for? Sort it f*cking out!

you cheeky f4ckin tw4t, your a d1ckhead.

Hush that hole man , he has a point don't you think anfield has been dead last 3-4 home matchs.

[Emerald Red]

Rafa has a big variants book then does he, has he lost the key to it or something, how often does his substitutions produce a goal, how often does he change tactics in the middle of a game? Am I missing something here apart form a team capable of getting motivated by their manager and therefore able to score goals against fecking West Ham and Fulham at home!!
This is clearly just a poor joke now, I personally hope Rafa doesn't get the contract extension, he doesn't deserve it after the last few matches, in fact this season we have scraped a lot of narrow wins but haven't once truly controlled a match, we are arguably worse than the second half of last season, it's just that the other top teams are also wobbly at the moment but that won't last for ever.

Quality post this, but not in a good way. Benitez' statistics of substitutions making an impact in a game have been better than any manager in the league over the past 4 years. There was a very insightful thread about this over at RAWK with plenty of stats for all you stats whores and doubters. Do a bit of research before you start spouting off.

As for the game, I'm seriously disappointed with us not making up more ground than what we should be. Our confidence just seems a bit low at the minute for some reason. We're perhaps slightly just lacking a player, bar Torres of course, of being good enough to eventually win the title this season, but who knows. If we get to January and we're still top of the table, who could ask for more than that?

Oh, we all can have a go at the players and even the manager, but people seem to omit the fact that the fans inside Anfield have been f*cking shyte, lets be honest about it. There's some quality whoppers going to the game, and it's a disgrace that 1000 or so West Ham fans out sang everyone inside Anfield tonight. The players need to show passion, aye, but so do you w@nkers inside the ground. Where the f*ck has the atmosphere gone to that we're meant to be so famous for? Sort it f*cking out!

you cheeky f4ckin tw4t, your a d1ckhead.

Why's that?

[Dundalk]

3 home games in a row against Marseille , Fulham and West Ham and not a performance in any of them . . Not good enough . . Heskey at his worst would have been better up front tonight

[Sabre]

Oh, we all can have a go at the players and even the manager, but people seem to omit the fact that the fans inside Anfield have been f*cking shyte, lets be honest about it. There's some quality whoppers going to the game, and it's a disgrace that 1000 or so West Ham fans out sang everyone inside Anfield tonight. The players need to show passion, aye, but so do you w@nkers inside the ground. Where the f*ck has the atmosphere gone to that we're meant to be so famous for? Sort it f*cking out!

Emerald, I agree the rest of your post but this is too harsh and I'll explain you why.

We ask patience for Rafa, we ask patience for Keane, we ask patience for the team, it's only fair to ask patience when the crowd is not 100% perfect, especially considering how long they've been waiting for the title.

Not that I don't dislike the boos, I do, but "fúcking shíte" or "w@nkers" doesn't seem to be appropiate to say about the crowd as a whole, excuse me if I got you wrong.

[neil]

Rafa has a big variants book then does he, has he lost the key to it or something, how often does his substitutions produce a goal, how often does he change tactics in the middle of a game? Am I missing something here apart form a team capable of getting motivated by their manager and therefore able to score goals against fecking West Ham and Fulham at home!!
This is clearly just a poor joke now, I personally hope Rafa doesn't get the contract extension, he doesn't deserve it after the last few matches, in fact this season we have scraped a lot of narrow wins but haven't once truly controlled a match, we are arguably worse than the second half of last season, it's just that the other top teams are also wobbly at the moment but that won't last for ever.

Quality post this, but not in a good way. Benitez' statistics of substitutions making an impact in a game have been better than any manager in the league over the past 4 years. There was a very insightful thread about this over at RAWK with plenty of stats for all you stats whores and doubters. Do a bit of research before you start spouting off.

As for the game, I'm seriously disappointed with us not making up more ground than what we should be. Our confidence just seems a bit low at the minute for some reason. We're perhaps slightly just lacking a player, bar Torres of course, of being good enough to eventually win the title this season, but who knows. If we get to January and we're still top of the table, who could ask for more than that?

Oh, we all can have a go at the players and even the manager, but people seem to omit the fact that the fans inside Anfield have been f*cking shyte, lets be honest about it. There's some quality whoppers going to the game, and it's a disgrace that 1000 or so West Ham fans out sang everyone inside Anfield tonight. The players need to show passion, aye, but so do you w@nkers inside the ground. Where the f*ck has the atmosphere gone to that we're meant to be so famous for? Sort it f*cking out!

you cheeky f4ckin tw4t, your a d1ckhead.

Hush that hole man , he has a point don't you think anfield has been dead last 3-4 home matchs.

not where we were sat, I couldnt hear west ham fans for our singing all the way through, was he singing while watchin the f4ckin telly?

[LegBarnes]

Rafa has a big variants book then does he, has he lost the key to it or something, how often does his substitutions produce a goal, how often does he change tactics in the middle of a game? Am I missing something here apart form a team capable of getting motivated by their manager and therefore able to score goals against fecking West Ham and Fulham at home!!
This is clearly just a poor joke now, I personally hope Rafa doesn't get the contract extension, he doesn't deserve it after the last few matches, in fact this season we have scraped a lot of narrow wins but haven't once truly controlled a match, we are arguably worse than the second half of last season, it's just that the other top teams are also wobbly at the moment but that won't last for ever.

Quality post this, but not in a good way. Benitez' statistics of substitutions making an impact in a game have been better than any manager in the league over the past 4 years. There was a very insightful thread about this over at RAWK with plenty of stats for all you stats whores and doubters. Do a bit of research before you start spouting off.

As for the game, I'm seriously disappointed with us not making up more ground than what we should be. Our confidence just seems a bit low at the minute for some reason. We're perhaps slightly just lacking a player, bar Torres of course, of being good enough to eventually win the title this season, but who knows. If we get to January and we're still top of the table, who could ask for more than that?

Oh, we all can have a go at the players and even the manager, but people seem to omit the fact that the fans inside Anfield have been f*cking shyte, lets be honest about it. There's some quality whoppers going to the game, and it's a disgrace that 1000 or so West Ham fans out sang everyone inside Anfield tonight. The players need to show passion, aye, but so do you w@nkers inside the ground. Where the f*ck has the atmosphere gone to that we're meant to be so famous for? Sort it f*cking out!

you cheeky f4ckin tw4t, your a d1ckhead.

Hush that hole man , he has a point don't you think anfield has been dead last 3-4 home matchs.

not where we were sat, I couldnt hear west ham fans for our singing all the way through, was he singing while watchin the f4ckin telly?

I dunno i wasn't with him but i Was me and GF always break out the songs when we watch. 

[Emerald Red]

Oh, we all can have a go at the players and even the manager, but people seem to omit the fact that the fans inside Anfield have been f*cking shyte, lets be honest about it. There's some quality whoppers going to the game, and it's a disgrace that 1000 or so West Ham fans out sang everyone inside Anfield tonight. The players need to show passion, aye, but so do you w@nkers inside the ground. Where the f*ck has the atmosphere gone to that we're meant to be so famous for? Sort it f*cking out!

Emerald, I agree the rest of your post but this is too harsh and I'll explain you why.

We ask patience for Rafa, we ask patience for Keane, we ask patience for the team, it's only fair to ask patience when the crowd is not 100% perfect, especially considering how long they've been waiting for the title.

Not that I don't dislike the boos, I do, but "fúcking shíte" or "w@nkers" doesn't seem to be appropiate to say about the crowd as a whole, excuse me if I got you wrong.

Not everyone in the ground, that's obvious. Just a "collective" use of the word in general. It has to be said, Anfield was almost mute. Did someone die? I thought we were meant to have a famous atmosphere, but it seemed all the energy was put into the demonstration at the start, and what happened after was an afterthought. As for the W@nkers comment, yeah there are plenty of em going to the games at the minute, and I'll stick by that word after last weeks' disgrace.

[neil]

this guy is calling match going liverpool fans w4nkers time and again, what on earth is going on here mods?

[Emerald Red]

Rafa has a big variants book then does he, has he lost the key to it or something, how often does his substitutions produce a goal, how often does he change tactics in the middle of a game? Am I missing something here apart form a team capable of getting motivated by their manager and therefore able to score goals against fecking West Ham and Fulham at home!!
This is clearly just a poor joke now, I personally hope Rafa doesn't get the contract extension, he doesn't deserve it after the last few matches, in fact this season we have scraped a lot of narrow wins but haven't once truly controlled a match, we are arguably worse than the second half of last season, it's just that the other top teams are also wobbly at the moment but that won't last for ever.

Quality post this, but not in a good way. Benitez' statistics of substitutions making an impact in a game have been better than any manager in the league over the past 4 years. There was a very insightful thread about this over at RAWK with plenty of stats for all you stats whores and doubters. Do a bit of research before you start spouting off.

As for the game, I'm seriously disappointed with us not making up more ground than what we should be. Our confidence just seems a bit low at the minute for some reason. We're perhaps slightly just lacking a player, bar Torres of course, of being good enough to eventually win the title this season, but who knows. If we get to January and we're still top of the table, who could ask for more than that?

Oh, we all can have a go at the players and even the manager, but people seem to omit the fact that the fans inside Anfield have been f*cking shyte, lets be honest about it. There's some quality whoppers going to the game, and it's a disgrace that 1000 or so West Ham fans out sang everyone inside Anfield tonight. The players need to show passion, aye, but so do you w@nkers inside the ground. Where the f*ck has the atmosphere gone to that we're meant to be so famous for? Sort it f*cking out!

you cheeky f4ckin tw4t, your a d1ckhead.

Hush that hole man , he has a point don't you think anfield has been dead last 3-4 home matchs.

not where we were sat, I couldnt hear west ham fans for our singing all the way through, was he singing while watchin the f4ckin telly?

No, but I did find the conversation I had with a dozen or so mates more rowdy and entertaining at least. I dunno, unless the directors deliberately turned the sound down when our fans started to up the anti, otherwise, from what I could hear, it was all mostly West Ham fans that drowned out anything our fans belted out, which is shocking when you think about it.

[Emerald Red]

this guy is calling match going liverpool fans w4nkers time and again, what on earth is going on here mods?

Unless you were one of the boo boys?

[Scottbot]

My take on the game:

It was a poor performance, it didn't lack effort from the players but we simply don't look like breaking down a well organised team who sit on the edge of their box and defend deep. We look very predictable at the moment and the tempo of our passing was poor tonight although it was better in the 2nd half. It's hard to have a pop at particular players tonight because no-one played well. I'd say our two best performers were Bennayoun, who worked his socks off and Dossena who, despite getting caught out of position defensively, put in several excellent crosses. in fact i can only remember a couple of poor crosses (although Setanta broadband wasn't working so good in the 1st half for me).

A lot of people are asking where our Plan B is but the truth is we don't have one. we sold him to Pompey and it's clear we are in DESPERATE need of a Big Man to come off the bench or start when Torres isn't available. Full-backs are the biggest weakness in our side from an attacking perspective, our achilles heel as far as I am concerned. Unlike our rivals our lads will not charge down the wing, play a ball inside, collect a return pass, make a man miss and then cut into the box. Watch Arsenal, Chelsea and to a lesser extent, united and your'l see that this is the way they often attack the flanks. Unfortunately we can can't do it however, both full-backs put in good crosses tonight but we have no-one to attack them. I will be very suprised if Benitez does not go in for Heskey (on the cheap) in January, I'm not his biggest fan but we could have done with him tonight. A better (but too expensive) shout would be Santa Cruz, I watched him at Fratton Park yesterday and he was (and is) excellent.

A couple of other observations; Sami, Carra and Alonso had many opportunities to carry the ball forward and commit their players but chose to play the ten yard pass with 20 yards of space ahead of them. Also, we need to pass the ball at a higher tempo, those passages of play where we play the ball across the back line and then into a middies feet and then back out to the full-back etc are fine, football is about patience BUT they need to happen at a much higher tempo. Easy passes don't need to be played at snails pace and it made us very easy to defend against, they just shuffled left to right all game. Our best spell lasted about 10 minutes in the 2nd half when we moved the ball with a bit of zip but it didn't last.

On the plus side, and for those who think we can't (and won't) shake out of this 'can't buy a goal' period I would remind you that we have had a few of these runs and managed to snap out of them so I wouldn't feel quite so hopeless about it.

[neil]

this guy is calling match going liverpool fans w4nkers time and again, what on earth is going on here mods?

Unless you were one of the boo boys?

i think you'll find my first post was one of optimism, i just accidently came across your spiteful vile. no i'm no boo boy, but your a tube.