Liverpool v Spurs (H) Prem 7/10/07 - Pre-match and build up discussion

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Postby mattylfc » Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:18 pm

Seems like the few that have commented on here who actually went to watch the game suggest that the performance (esp. first half) wasnt actually as bad as we are led to believe.

I havnt had a chance to see any highlights yet so i cant really comment on the performance at all. All i can say is that prior to the game this was 3 points that we really did need.

When we went 1-0 up i thought that we would definitely go on to win the game. From what they were saying on the radio it seemed like an open game and we werent playing too badly.

I dont think anyone would have imagined that we would have made two defensive errors in the same game that led to them scoring, i certainly didnt.

Real shame to hear about the part that the crowd played in the game. Its understandable and I know that it is sometimes hard to cheer and try to encourage a team that isnt playing great but at the end of the day, it is times like this when us, the supporters become even more important. We need to get behind the team and get out of this run that we are going through.

Just like everyone else, i am not happy with the results we have had recently but it is by no means a crisis that some seem to think it is. If after the next two games against the biters and arsenal we are still getting the same results, people will then have real reason to shout and point the finger.  If however, we were to turn it on its head and get 4-6 points out of those two games, maybe things will look a little rosier.
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Postby Owzat » Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:33 pm

I don't think the performance was that bad attacking wise, the defending for two hopeful balls was woeful with the defenders getting in bad positions and not defending properly. spudz aren't that bad a side, we shouldn't be drawing at home to them if we want to win the league. We must win the next two games minimum, otherwise being unbeaten will count for nothing and we'll be even further adrift. Saying that Arsenal have still to play a form team, they've had practically all the easy games
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Postby stmichael » Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:38 pm

mattylfc wrote:Real shame to hear about the part that the crowd played in the game. Its understandable and I know that it is sometimes hard to cheer and try to encourage a team that isnt playing great but at the end of the day, it is times like this when us, the supporters become even more important. We need to get behind the team and get out of this run that we are going through.

The atmosphere has been poor for a long time now.

Just be pleased that you're on here and not somewhere like RAOTL. On there it's complete fandom xenophobia. Basically all Scousers sing and the wools/Irish/Cockneys/Midlanders are to blame for everything from atmosphere to global warming.
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Postby puroresu » Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:39 pm

Owzat wrote:I don't think the performance was that bad attacking wise, the defending for two hopeful balls was woeful with the defenders getting in bad positions and not defending properly. spudz aren't that bad a side, we shouldn't be drawing at home to them if we want to win the league. We must win the next two games minimum, otherwise being unbeaten will count for nothing and we'll be even further adrift. Saying that Arsenal have still to play a form team, they've had practically all the easy games

Well they went to blackburn and didnt get beat.  They went to spurs and won, they went to West Ham and won.  They beat Man City at home.  They have not had easy games at all just have made many of them look easy due to the great football they play.

They may not have played the 'top 4' but even so last year there record was the best against the other 'top 4' sides.
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Postby Owzat » Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:40 pm

Oh and isn't what Berbatov did to us supposedly what Crouch should be? And what Torres did right and Crouch doesn't very often is kept his arms down and won the ball without a snowball's chance in hell of a foul being given. Arguably the defending for Torres' goal was worse than for Voronin's, letting the forward get a header with two CBs in a better position to win the ball
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Postby Ola Mr Benitez » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:32 pm

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Postby Graeme Noble » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:33 pm

2 points dropped, yet again. We played okay in the first half, but our defence wasn't good and Sami Hypia is passed his best definitely, even Carra had a bad game.
What is with Gerrard? He hasn't played a good game for us since the opening few weeks of the season, strange. Just as well that chance at the end fell to Torres, because someone like Crouch wouldn't have scored. A point isn't a disaster I suppose, we could've lost it.

The next game against Everton is huge. If we lose that game, realistically speaking, we are out of the title race. Man Utd won at Goodison, so we should do the same. Pick a strong team and go for it, using Torres pace to cut Julian :censored: Lescott in pieces. If we draw the game, then it looks bleak for the title, BUT the 3 points would be so valuable it's unreal. Can't wait, but for now, i'm looking forward to our (Scotland's) next 2 games, I can touch qualification.
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Postby Scottbot » Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:03 pm

stmichael wrote:The atmosphere has been poor for a long time now.

Just be pleased that you're on here and not somewhere like RAOTL. On there it's complete fandom xenophobia. Basically all Scousers sing and the wools/Irish/Cockneys/Midlanders are to blame for everything from atmosphere to global warming.

I've never known it to be like it was yesterday St.Mick. I was far more dissapointed with the support than i was with the performance/result. not sure if you went the game but you could hear a pin drop. i'm not even sure why half the fans bothered to go to be honest. There's not much point if you're not gonna sing or offer aynthing more than the odd 10 second hand-clap, and it had nowt to do with the demographic of the support, it was simply embarrassing but hats off to the Spurs fans who were first class + unrelenting in their mickey taking at our expense  :(
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Postby murphy0151 » Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:44 pm

Scottbot wrote:
stmichael wrote:The atmosphere has been poor for a long time now.

Just be pleased that you're on here and not somewhere like RAOTL. On there it's complete fandom xenophobia. Basically all Scousers sing and the wools/Irish/Cockneys/Midlanders are to blame for everything from atmosphere to global warming.

I've never known it to be like it was yesterday St.Mick. I was far more dissapointed with the support than i was with the performance/result. not sure if you went the game but you could hear a pin drop. i'm not even sure why half the fans bothered to go to be honest. There's not much point if you're not gonna sing or offer aynthing more than the odd 10 second hand-clap, and it had nowt to do with the demographic of the support, it was simply embarrassing but hats off to the Spurs fans who were first class + unrelenting in their mickey taking at our expense  :(

Scotbot, Anfiled is like that nearly every game now mate.  The only time it might not be like that is in a midweek champions league game. And even thats only in the later rounds or the later end of the group.  Shocking it is.
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Postby Scottbot » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:08 pm

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stmichael wrote:The atmosphere has been poor for a long time now.

Just be pleased that you're on here and not somewhere like RAOTL. On there it's complete fandom xenophobia. Basically all Scousers sing and the wools/Irish/Cockneys/Midlanders are to blame for everything from atmosphere to global warming.

I've never known it to be like it was yesterday St.Mick. I was far more dissapointed with the support than i was with the performance/result. not sure if you went the game but you could hear a pin drop. i'm not even sure why half the fans bothered to go to be honest. There's not much point if you're not gonna sing or offer aynthing more than the odd 10 second hand-clap, and it had nowt to do with the demographic of the support, it was simply embarrassing but hats off to the Spurs fans who were first class + unrelenting in their mickey taking at our expense  :(

Scotbot, Anfiled is like that nearly every game now mate.  The only time it might not be like that is in a midweek champions league game. And even thats only in the later rounds or the later end of the group.  Shocking it is.

Pretty soul destroying mate  :( I went Chelsea first game of the season and enjoyed the atmos that day but it was 1st game of the season. last year i went for Newcastle, utd and blackburn in the league and all three were considerably better than Saturday. Even blackburn which was a boring 1-1 game pis...sed on saturday's atmosphere. I was lucky enough to get tickets for PSV, Barca and the Chelsea in the champ League last year. Chelsea was one of the best nights of me life, only 25/5/05 and a few kick a.s..s raves back in the 90s can top it. It amazes me that pretty much the same bunch of fans (give or take a few seasonn ticket holders who might have sold there's on) who sat there quiet on saturday can make so much noise and passion for the big knock-out games in Europe. It's ridiculous  :veryangry
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Postby Avi Cohen » Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:54 pm

Just watched the full game on LFC TV and we weren't as bad as we were made out to be. Okay, we weren't great but we were still a hell of a lot better than we were in the Portsmouth, Birmingham, Marseille and Porto games.
One major aspect I noticed is this: when we have the ball in their half, our strikers, midfielders and wingers don't move. I mean it's like watching statues; standing there waiting for a pass. Excuse the management speak - we REACT instead of being pro-active. IE, we move once the ball is played and any defender worth his salt can spot where the ball is going to go, and is the case with us, gets there first.
We have to get some movement up front if only to upset or second guess their defenders. Put the cat amongst the pigeons. Make them hate playing us because right now every team in the league fancies thier chances and puts it up to us. Someone needs a tonking and quick!
But as I said before, I don't think the emphasis of LFC is scoring a goal - it's winning the ball back and I for one am sick of watching boring, one-dimensional football. 

And now for Avi Cohen's Perspective Corner:
Every team has a blip, a dip in form, during a long season. It's inevitable. I, personally, would rather have a dip now - with only 6 points off the top AND a game in hand - at this time of the year rather than March/April.
AND HERE COMES AVI COHEN!! OH I SAY - AT THE SAME END HE'S GOT ONE BACK!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:09 pm

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Ciggy wrote:What really got to me today was the Spurs fans singing Anfield is a Library, and wheres your famous fans, I know I am a woman myself but there was an astonishing amount of couples at the ground today no wonder the atmosphere is so feckin sh.it.

I said on this thread (page 3) how I was really looking forward to going to Anfield.  Even as a Tottenham fan, I have watched Liverpool on TV and listened to the "Kop Choir" with appreciation and awe, and I was expecting to hear more of the same today.  However, your vocal support today was awful, in fact it was virtually non-existant.  I would have thought that when your team is under-performing (And I should know all about that), that you should get behind your team.  "Anfield Library" was spot on, today.  The only atmosphere came from the Tottenham fans.

Anfield only produces its famous atmosphere when we play a decent team or the bitters.

So not only are you clueless (your post in which you fail to acknowledge the fact Liverpool aren’t good enough to beat Spurs 5-0) but you are also classless.

Read it again and you may realise your error.

You want to join the cops but you don't understand the concept of sarcasm?

I'd look elsewhere for a career if I were you.
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