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[Lando_Griffin]

So basically you have agreed ALL MY FIGURES added an extra year on which includes players signed before Wenger arrived at Arsenal. Then changed all the rules . Nice one

I will use your figures

Wenger net spend 37,176,000/12 = £3million net spend per year

Rafa net spend 86,420,000/4 = £21million net spend per year

Not even close mate.

Fine - kiss his a*se all you wish.

Same as I say - there's a difference of £1.3m per player between the 2 managers - not a lot considering Rafa hasn't begun selling his best players.

But you keep licking that frog's chocolate starfish.

[EddieC]

People like Josemi have been expensive for what they've done.

But Sabre, we swapped Josemi for Kromkamp who by all accounts went for £2.5m, making us a profit.

Yes Rafa has made mistakes like anyone will, but none of those mistakes have been that costly, I think the biggest loss we've made on a player has been Morientes, in the region of £3m.

[Lando_Griffin]

Whereas that f*cking genius lost £13m on Wiltord.

But then - that's swept under the carpet...

[Lando_Griffin]

Here's a good question - if, by the grace of God, we beat Arsenal tomorrow - will you all start licking Rafa's bum?

No - I didn't think so...

[NANNY RED]

hell Lando lad it took me ages to read that i could have read a book quicker   

[account deleted by request]

People like Josemi have been expensive for what they've done.

But Sabre, we swapped Josemi for Kromkamp who by all accounts went for £2.5m, making us a profit.

Yes Rafa has made mistakes like anyone will, but none of those mistakes have been that costly, I think the biggest loss we've made on a player has been Morientes, in the region of £3m.

No the costliest mistake we have made was Houllier not getting Owen signed up! We got next to nothing for him, and have spent a fortune trying to get someone who can score.

[Leonmc0708]

People like Josemi have been expensive for what they've done.

But Sabre, we swapped Josemi for Kromkamp who by all accounts went for £2.5m, making us a profit.

Yes Rafa has made mistakes like anyone will, but none of those mistakes have been that costly, I think the biggest loss we've made on a player has been Morientes, in the region of £3m.

No the costliest mistake we have made was Houllier not getting Owen signed up! We got next to nothing for him, and have spent a fortune trying to get someone who can score.

Wengers great though isnt he ?

[Wilhelmsson]

Here's a good question - if, by the grace of God, we beat Arsenal tomorrow - will you all start licking Rafa's bum?

No - I didn't think so...

I feel most members will let you carry on seeing as you’re doing a fine job. There is nothing wrong with giving respect where respect is due, Wenger has earned respect and I like him, I don’t see how calling him a fantastic manager is in any way, shape or form behind kissing as you bluntly put it.

[account deleted by request]

So basically you have agreed ALL MY FIGURES added an extra year on which includes players signed before Wenger arrived at Arsenal. Then changed all the rules . Nice one

I will use your figures

Wenger net spend 37,176,000/12 = £3million net spend per year

Rafa net spend 86,420,000/4 = £21million net spend per year

Not even close mate.

Fine - kiss his a*se all you wish.

Same as I say - there's a difference of £1.3m per player between the 2 managers - not a lot considering Rafa hasn't begun selling his best players.

But you keep licking that frog's chocolate starfish.

I have no-where kissed Wengers mate, all I did was defend my figures. I haven't said how wonderful he is, what a great manager he is ,all I have said is this is how much he spent per year.

I hope in 5 years time Rafa will see the results of some of his  clever investments in the youth market and we can start to sell on a few players, but more importantly I just want the title.

[heimdall]

You could have saved yourself a lot of criticism mate by just putting out a standard 4-4-2 but adding the comment that you'd like to see Babel & Gerrard come into the middle a lot, something which they both do anyway.

I don't know if you're deliberately trying to be controversial, but you could have said exactly the same thing in a manner that wouldn't have got an adverse reaction.

Sorry but how the hell was my initial post controversial, I didn't attack anyone, just gave an opinion and then people start taking the and calling me an idiot, that isn't called for. There are so many posts which I think are complete sh1t but I don't mock people for them!

Chill out mate, I didn't attack your post I was just saying how you could have avoided the criticism.

OK but you did ask if I was deliberately trying to be controversial and with the amount of heat I've had recently that would be fairly silly of me wouldn't it 

[Lando_Griffin]

Here's a good question - if, by the grace of God, we beat Arsenal tomorrow - will you all start licking Rafa's bum?

No - I didn't think so...

I feel most members will let you carry on seeing as you’re doing a fine job. There is nothing wrong with giving respect where respect is due, Wenger has earned respect and I like him, I don’t see how calling him a fantastic manager is in any way, shape or form behind kissing as you bluntly put it.

I was simply deflating the silly opinion that Wenger has achieved what he has with no money at his disposal.

That's all.

Since when has it been wrong to defend OUR manager?

BTW - here's an interesting little titbit of info for you:

Since Abramovich dumped Ranieri, Arsenal have won precisely f*ck all league titles. The same as Rafa, but with a considerably longer reign.

Rafa wins the Champions' League in his first season. Then he thinks "Ah, f*ck it" and adds the FA Cup the next season, finishing above Arsenal in the league. Last year, we have a "terrible" season, yet still end above the Gooners and reach the Champions' League final, where we bitch-slap the opposition, only to lose to a deflected goal. Add to this the Community Shield and Euro Super Cup, and...

Who's the Daddy again?

[heimdall]

People like Josemi have been expensive for what they've done.

But Sabre, we swapped Josemi for Kromkamp who by all accounts went for £2.5m, making us a profit.

Yes Rafa has made mistakes like anyone will, but none of those mistakes have been that costly, I think the biggest loss we've made on a player has been Morientes, in the region of £3m.

No the costliest mistake we have made was Houllier not getting Owen signed up! We got next to nothing for him, and have spent a fortune trying to get someone who can score.

Wengers great though isnt he ?

Yes I agree Leon, didn't know you liked Wenger too. 

[account deleted by request]

People like Josemi have been expensive for what they've done.

But Sabre, we swapped Josemi for Kromkamp who by all accounts went for £2.5m, making us a profit.

Yes Rafa has made mistakes like anyone will, but none of those mistakes have been that costly, I think the biggest loss we've made on a player has been Morientes, in the region of £3m.

No the costliest mistake we have made was Houllier not getting Owen signed up! We got next to nothing for him, and have spent a fortune trying to get someone who can score.

Wengers great though isnt he ?

FFS get it through your thick skull I haven't said he's great ,all I have done is defended the figures I quoted. If you are so insecure about Rafa's spending, that a few FACTS upsets you maybe you should just stick to reading "in Rafa we trust" and leave the posting to the big boys from now on.

[Lando_Griffin]

So basically you have agreed ALL MY FIGURES added an extra year on which includes players signed before Wenger arrived at Arsenal. Then changed all the rules . Nice one

I will use your figures

Wenger net spend 37,176,000/12 = £3million net spend per year

Rafa net spend 86,420,000/4 = £21million net spend per year

Not even close mate.

Fine - kiss his a*se all you wish.

Same as I say - there's a difference of £1.3m per player between the 2 managers - not a lot considering Rafa hasn't begun selling his best players.

But you keep licking that frog's chocolate starfish.

I have no-where kissed Wengers mate, all I did was defend my figures. I haven't said how wonderful he is, what a great manager he is ,all I have said is this is how much he spent per year.

I hope in 5 years time Rafa will see the results of some of his  clever investments in the youth market and we can start to sell on a few players, but more importantly I just want the title.

Yes, he recouped a lot of money, but he's won naff all in terms of league titles since Rafa arrived.

But Rafa has the big one. People can argue all they like, but the sheer fact is that the Champions' League is the barometer of all teams, and it's a sight better to win that than the league.

[heimdall]

Here's a good question - if, by the grace of God, we beat Arsenal tomorrow - will you all start licking Rafa's bum?

No - I didn't think so...

I feel most members will let you carry on seeing as you’re doing a fine job. There is nothing wrong with giving respect where respect is due, Wenger has earned respect and I like him, I don’t see how calling him a fantastic manager is in any way, shape or form behind kissing as you bluntly put it.

I was simply deflating the silly opinion that Wenger has achieved what he has with no money at his disposal.

That's all.

Since when has it been wrong to defend OUR manager?

BTW - here's an interesting little titbit of info for you:

Since Abramovich dumped Ranieri, Arsenal have won precisely f*ck all league titles. The same as Rafa, but with a considerably longer reign.

Rafa wins the Champions' League in his first season. Then he thinks "Ah, f*ck it" and adds the FA Cup the next season, finishing above Arsenal in the league. Last year, we have a "terrible" season, yet still end above the Gooners and reach the Champions' League final, where we bitch-slap the opposition, only to lose to a deflected goal. Add to this the Community Shield and Euro Super Cup, and...

Who's the Daddy again?

Bloody hell you must have been watching a different champions league final to me if you think we bitch slapped AC Milan in the final. We shaded it and if Rafa had brought on Crouch we might even have won it, but the way I see it we nicked it form them in 2005 and they did the same to us in 2007 so fair enough.

BTW You have every right in the world to defend Rafa and the reverse has also to be true, but please stop being racist, biggoted and so fecking patronising to, and about, everyone. You actually make good points but you are so bloody aggressive that your points get lost in all the bile that spills out of your posts.