Liverpool v. Arsenal Match Thread (Oct. 28, 2007) - AKA The Kiss Wenger's @rse Thread

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Postby Lando_Griffin » Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:54 pm

s@int wrote:Show me where my facts are wrong - I took them from the same place as you are quoting.

Well for a start, we spent £20m-odd on Torres, £11m on Babel, £4m on Benayoun, etc, etc.

So HOW can our gross spend come to £17m?

Go through it - work it out like I did in another thread, and you'll find your answer. I can't be a*sed to do it again, just because you and Wilhelmsson can't accept that Wenger is NOT the Messiah.
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Postby account deleted by request » Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:56 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
s@int wrote:Show me where my facts are wrong - I took them from the same place as you are quoting.

Well for a start, we spent £20m-odd on Torres, £11m on Babel, £4m on Benayoun, etc, etc.

So HOW can our gross spend come to £17m?

Go through it - work it out like I did in another thread, and you'll find your answer. I can't be a*sed to do it again, just because you and Wilhelmsson can't accept that Wenger is NOT the Messiah.

Check my figures they are correct - I just explained that to Sabre!
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:56 pm

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Lando_Griffin wrote:The prices are disclosed at the end of each season in their financial report you prune.

The point is no one really knows the ins and out’s of the finances of the clubs do they? Not you, not me and certainly not some website run by football fans that have a keen interest in accounts.

Again, I shall ask what do your ‘fact’s’ prove and what relevance do they have (if any)?

They prove that Wenger has spent more per player than Rafa.

Being as a few of you think he's God, and had no money to play with, I thought I'd set the record straight.

Is that alright with you?
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:57 pm

s@int wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
s@int wrote:Show me where my facts are wrong - I took them from the same place as you are quoting.

Well for a start, we spent £20m-odd on Torres, £11m on Babel, £4m on Benayoun, etc, etc.

So HOW can our gross spend come to £17m?

Go through it - work it out like I did in another thread, and you'll find your answer. I can't be a*sed to do it again, just because you and Wilhelmsson can't accept that Wenger is NOT the Messiah.

Check my figures they are correct - I just explained that to Sabre!

Tell you what - you find the other thread and read that. I'm off to work. :no
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Postby account deleted by request » Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:00 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
s@int wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
s@int wrote:Show me where my facts are wrong - I took them from the same place as you are quoting.

Well for a start, we spent £20m-odd on Torres, £11m on Babel, £4m on Benayoun, etc, etc.

So HOW can our gross spend come to £17m?

Go through it - work it out like I did in another thread, and you'll find your answer. I can't be a*sed to do it again, just because you and Wilhelmsson can't accept that Wenger is NOT the Messiah.

Check my figures they are correct - I just explained that to Sabre!

Tell you what - you find the other thread and read that. I'm off to work. :no

I have quoted the figures, I have said where I got them,(same place as Lando quoted) if anyone doesnt agree with them show me where they are wrong.
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Postby Wilhelmsson » Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:01 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:They prove that Wenger has spent more per player than Rafa.

Being as a few of you think he's God, and had no money to play with, I thought I'd set the record straight.

Is that alright with you?

He’s spent more, so what? You’d expect him to have spent more considering he has been at Arsenal significantly longer than Rafa has been at Liverpool. This is a simple fact that you seem to be ignoring for whatever reason.

No one has said he is a god; people respect him because he has a good eye for young talent and develops his talent into fantastic players who play fantastic winning football. What is wrong with giving respect where respect is due? Every fan dreams of watching their team win in style like Arsenal has been doing since Wenger’s arrival.

It’s fine with me; you post whatever your heart desires. This said  I still fail to see what you are trying to prove here. You point out that Wenger has spent more money, but Wenger has Premiership medals and an entire unbeaten season, where Arsenal played sensational football in his back catalogue. So it’s a trivial point to say the very least.
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Postby account deleted by request » Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:03 pm

Josemi Rey Malaga £2,000,000 26.07.2004
Antonio Nunez Real Madrid £1,500,000* 17.08.2004
Xabi Alonso Real Sociedad £10,700,000 20.08.2004
Luis Garcia Barcelona £6,000,000 20.08.2004
Mauricio Pellegrino Valencia Free 05.01.2005
Fernando Morientes Real Madrid £6,300,000 13.01.2005
Scott Carson Leeds United £1,000,000 21.01.2005
Josh Mimms Rotherham United £50,000 16.06.2005
Antonio Barragan Sevilla £240,000 04.07.2005
Boudewijn Zenden Free Transfer Free* 04.07.2005
Jose Reina Villareal £6,000,000 04.07.2005
Mohamed Sissoko Valencia £5,600,000 14.07.2005
Peter Crouch Southampton £7,000,000 20.07.2005
Godwin Antwi Real Zaragoza Unknown 15.08.2005
Miki Roque Lleida Unknown 15.08.2005
Jack Hobbs Lincoln City £150,000* 18.08.2005
Besian Idrizaj LASK Linz £190,000* 22.08.2005
Ramon Calliste Free Transfer Free* 29.08.2005
Mark Gonzalez Albacete £1,500,000* 20.10.2005
Paul Anderson Hull City Player Exchange* 01.01.2006
Jan Kromkamp Villareal Player Exchange* 04.01.2006
Daniel Agger Brøndby £5,800,000 12.01.2006
David Martin MK Dons £250,000* 12.01.2006
Robbie Fowler Man City Free 27.01.2006
Craig Bellamy Blackburn £6,000,000 01.07.2006
Gabriel Paletta Club Atlético Banfield £2,000,000 04.07.2006
Fábio Aurélio Valencia Free 05.07.2006
Jermaine Pennant Birmingham £6,700,000 26.07.2006
Dirk Kuyt Feyenoord £9,000,000 18.08.2006
Nabil El Zhar St Etienne £200,000 21.08.2006
Astrit  Ajdarevic Falkenberg £750,000* 11.01.2007
Daniele Padelli Sampdoria On Loan* 12.01.2007
Jordy Brouwer Ajax Undisclosed* 24.01.2007
Francisco Durán  Malaga £66,000* 30.01.2007
Ronald Huth Tacuary FC Undisclosed 31.01.2007
Álvaro Arbeloa Deportivo £2,500,000 31.01.2007
Javier Mascherano West Ham On Loan 20.02.2007
Lucas Pezzini Leiva Gremio £5,000,000 11.05.2007
Sebastian Leto Club Atlético Lanús £1,800,000 01.07.2007
Fernando Torres Atletico Madrid £20,200,000 04.07.2007
Andriy Voronin Leverkusen Free* 06.07.2007
Yossi Benayoun West Ham £5,000,000 12.07.2007
Ryan Babel Ajax £11,500,000 13.07.2007
Charles Itandje Lens Undisclosed 09.08.2007
Emiliano Insúa Boca Juniors £1,300,000* 26.08.2007


Rafael Benítez bought 45 players for £126,296,000

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Postby Ciggy » Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:07 pm

Surely we didnt buy feckin Arthur Nunez in the Owen deal?
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Postby account deleted by request » Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:10 pm

Ciggy wrote:Surely we didnt buy feckin Arthur Nunez in the Owen deal?

:laugh:  I presume they just gave him a value
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Postby jonnymac1979 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:16 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:I'll simplify it, shall I?

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Postby Igor Zidane » Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:26 pm

jonnymac1979 wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:I'll simplify it, shall I?

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Postby JoeTerp » Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:28 pm

Seems like Agger will NOT be fit for Arsenal, Torres seems 50/50, and Xabi isn't injured but Rafa isn't sure if this is the best game for him to make his return after 5 weeks out.  Still wish I knew what was the status of Arbeloa and Aurelio.  Fabio played great against Arsenal at home last year.  Gotta play crouchie as well.  Would consider Arbeloa at Centre half to deal with Arsenal's pace if he was fit.
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1997-1998

PLAYER       FROM        FEE
Wreh        Monaco      £300,000
Grondin     St Etinne   £500,000

PLAYER       TO          FEE
Shaw        Millwall    £250,000
Selley      Fulham      £500,000



Net: -£50,000

1998-1999

Code:
PLAYER       FROM         FEE
Ljungberg    Halmstads   £3,000,000
Pennant      Notts Co    £2,000,000
Kanu         Inter       £4,500,000
Diawara      Bordeaux    £2,500,000
Luzhny       Dynamo Kiev £1,800,000

PLAYER       TO          FEE
Wright       West Ham    £500,000
Rankin       Bradford    £1,300,000
Day          Bournemouth £20,000
Huck         Bournemouth £50,000
Diawarra     Marseille   £3,000,000



Net: -£8.93M

1999-2000

Code:
PLAYER       FROM          FEE
Malz         1860 Munich  £650,000
Sylvinho     Corinthians  £4,000,000
Suker        Real Madrid  £500,000
Henry        Juventus     £10,500,000
Lauren       Mallorca     £7,200,000


PLAYER       TO            FEE
Bould        Sunderland   £500,000
Crowe        Portsmouth   £1,000,000
Livermore    Millwall     £30,000
Anelka       Real Madrid  £23,000,000
Boa Morte    Southampton  £500,000
S Hughes     Everton      £3,000,000
Black        Cr Palace    £500,000
Gray         Cr Palace    £500,000



Net = +£6.18M

2000-2001

Code:
PLAYER       FROM          FEE
Pires        Marseille    £6,000,000
Wiltord      Bordeaux     £13,000,000
Stepanovs    Skonto Riga  £1,000,000
Danilevicius Lausanne Spo £1,000,000
Edu          Corinthians  £6,000,000
Jeffers      Everton      £8,000,000


PLAYER       TO            FEE
Bothroyd     Coventry     £1,000,000
Overmans     Barcelona    £25,000,000
Petit        Barcelona    £5,000,000
McGovern     Norwich      £50,000
Weston       Cardiff      £300,000
Vernazza     Watford      £350,000



Net = -£3.3M

2001-2002

Code:
PLAYER       FROM          FEE
Van Bronckh. Rangers      £8,500,000
Wright       Ipswitch     £6,000,000
Tavlaridis   Iraklis Sal  £600,000
Touré        ASEC Abid.   £150,000


PLAYER       TO            FEE
Malz         Kaiserslau.  £580,000
Demel        Dortmund     £194,000
Sylvinho     Celta Vigo   £3,500,000



Net = -£10.98M

2002-2003

Code:
PLAYER       FROM          FEE
Cygan        Lille        £2,100,000
Gilberto     Alt Mineiro  £4,500,000


PLAYER       TO            FEE
Manninger    Espanyol     £960,000
Wright       Everton      £3,500,000
Upson        Birmingham   £1,000,000



Net = -£1.14M

2003-2004

Code:
PLAYER       FROM          FEE
Senderos     Servette     £2,500,000
Reyes        Seville      £10,500,000
Van Persie   Feyenoord    £2,750,000


PLAYER       TO            FEE
Thomas       Charlton     £100,000



Net = -£15.65M

2004-2005

Code:
PLAYER       FROM          FEE
Eboue        Bevern       £1,000,000


PLAYER       TO            FEE
Jeffers      Charlton     £2,600,000



Net = +£1.6M

2005-2006

Code:
PLAYER       FROM          FEE
Mannone      Atalanta     £350,000
Diaby        Auxerre      £2,000,000
Adebayor     Monaco       £7,000,000
Walcott      Southampton  £5,000,000*
Rosicky      Dortmund     £6,800,000


PLAYER       TO            FEE
Veiria       Juventus     £13,700,000



Net = -£7.45M

2006-2007

Code:
PLAYER       FROM          FEE
Song         Bastia       £1,000,000
Denilson     Sao Paulo    £3,400,000


PLAYER       TO            FEE
Cygan        Villareal    £2,000,000
Stokes       Sunderland   £2,000,000
Lauren       Portsmouth   £500,000
Larsson      Birmingham   £1,000,000
Muamba       Birmingham   £4,000,000
Aliadiere    Middlesbr.   £1,500,000
Henry        Barcelona    £16,100,000



Net = +£22.7M

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Postby GOAT » Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:55 pm

We best had win this match, funnily enough i think its going to be very difficult...
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Postby EddieC » Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:15 pm

s@int wrote:The defence fkn rests

Sorry S@int, but one thing I noticed straight away is there's no record of him signing Vieira. If a major player like that is missing I wonder how many more are missing off the list?
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