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Postby tubby » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:16 am

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Igor Zidane wrote:Soz saint lad it's abit all over the place ,but you can see the squad they already had .

Yet that super duper wonderful squad won nothing in 2005 while we were winning the CL, won only the lc in 2006 while we were winning the FA CUP (AFTER BEATING THEM).

The only reason the mancs came good is because Ronaldo came good mate. Look at the players they have bought since 2006 none of them have made any real impact.

I think Rooney, Carrick and Ferdinand all made posative impacts for them.

As for them not winning anything in 2005 ok but how many points ahead of us did they finish?
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Postby heimdall » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:34 am

NANNY RED wrote:Just a quote from Rafa today regarding Nemeth, i put it in the Alonso.thread but ill put it in here an all,

Nemeth came off the substitutes' bench to score twice in the Lion City and has clearly made a favourable impression on his manager.

"He was really good two years ago for the reserve team, scoring a lot of goals but last year he had some problems with injuries," added Benitez.

"But he showed today that he's a good finisher and a player with a future.

"It depends on the players always. If they're knocking on the door and they knock really hard, then I have to hear. This is important and it depends on them."


I personally think the kid is ringing loud an clear on the bell , very impressed wth him today an all

So somehow Eggnog must be knocking louder than Nemeth in Rafa's pov! This is the thing that annoys me with Rafa, not spotting young players and giving them a chance, and hopefully King Kenny can help with pushing through the talented youngsters like Spearing, Nemeth etc instead of the useless fecks like Eggnog.

I still have not seen anything impressive with Eggnog and I thought he was the only disappointment in Singapore, apart from him the team looked really together which is amazing if you consider the number of subs, I know the oppo was sh1t but all the same it was a fine display.

My man of the match, 2nd half was either Nemeth or Diggler.
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Postby GYBS » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:28 am

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NANNY RED wrote:Just a quote from Rafa today regarding Nemeth, i put it in the Alonso.thread but ill put it in here an all,

Nemeth came off the substitutes' bench to score twice in the Lion City and has clearly made a favourable impression on his manager.

"He was really good two years ago for the reserve team, scoring a lot of goals but last year he had some problems with injuries," added Benitez.

"But he showed today that he's a good finisher and a player with a future.

"It depends on the players always. If they're knocking on the door and they knock really hard, then I have to hear. This is important and it depends on them."


I personally think the kid is ringing loud an clear on the bell , very impressed wth him today an all

So somehow Eggnog must be knocking louder than Nemeth in Rafa's pov! This is the thing that annoys me with Rafa, not spotting young players and giving them a chance, and hopefully King Kenny can help with pushing through the talented youngsters like Spearing, Nemeth etc instead of the useless fecks like Eggnog.

I still have not seen anything impressive with Eggnog and I thought he was the only disappointment in Singapore, apart from him the team looked really together which is amazing if you consider the number of subs, I know the oppo was sh1t but all the same it was a fine display.

My man of the match, 2nd half was either Nemeth or Diggler.

Useless Feck ?!? yet he somehow managed to get himself on the scoresheet a number of times last season - he has good pace , has a decent finish on him and has plenty of time to develop yet .

Its quite pathetic when people are calling Liverpool players useless feck - very subjective and a pure insult .
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Postby heimdall » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:33 am

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heimdall wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:Just a quote from Rafa today regarding Nemeth, i put it in the Alonso.thread but ill put it in here an all,

Nemeth came off the substitutes' bench to score twice in the Lion City and has clearly made a favourable impression on his manager.

"He was really good two years ago for the reserve team, scoring a lot of goals but last year he had some problems with injuries," added Benitez.

"But he showed today that he's a good finisher and a player with a future.

"It depends on the players always. If they're knocking on the door and they knock really hard, then I have to hear. This is important and it depends on them."


I personally think the kid is ringing loud an clear on the bell , very impressed wth him today an all

So somehow Eggnog must be knocking louder than Nemeth in Rafa's pov! This is the thing that annoys me with Rafa, not spotting young players and giving them a chance, and hopefully King Kenny can help with pushing through the talented youngsters like Spearing, Nemeth etc instead of the useless fecks like Eggnog.

I still have not seen anything impressive with Eggnog and I thought he was the only disappointment in Singapore, apart from him the team looked really together which is amazing if you consider the number of subs, I know the oppo was sh1t but all the same it was a fine display.

My man of the match, 2nd half was either Nemeth or Diggler.

Useless Feck ?!? yet he somehow managed to get himself on the scoresheet a number of times last season - he has good pace , has a decent finish on him and has plenty of time to develop yet .

Its quite pathetic when people are calling Liverpool players useless feck - very subjective and a pure insult .

good pace, decent finish, compared to who, the only goals he got last season were more or less tap ins, he is :censored:, do you hear me :censored: and I don't consider him a Liverpool player he is not worthy of putting on that great jersey so I will insult him every day until he miraculously turns into a footballer or fecks off somewhere else.

Do you consider him better than Nemeth, and if so why?
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Postby GYBS » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:35 am

Do you call running 30 yards at pace with the ball then slotting it past the keeper a tap in ?

They are both young , both inexperienced and both got a lot to prove - both look like they have some decent talents but time will tell with both of them how well they develop .
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Postby RobinHood6969 » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:47 am

heimdall wrote:
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heimdall wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:Just a quote from Rafa today regarding Nemeth, i put it in the Alonso.thread but ill put it in here an all,

Nemeth came off the substitutes' bench to score twice in the Lion City and has clearly made a favourable impression on his manager.

"He was really good two years ago for the reserve team, scoring a lot of goals but last year he had some problems with injuries," added Benitez.

"But he showed today that he's a good finisher and a player with a future.

"It depends on the players always. If they're knocking on the door and they knock really hard, then I have to hear. This is important and it depends on them."


I personally think the kid is ringing loud an clear on the bell , very impressed wth him today an all

So somehow Eggnog must be knocking louder than Nemeth in Rafa's pov! This is the thing that annoys me with Rafa, not spotting young players and giving them a chance, and hopefully King Kenny can help with pushing through the talented youngsters like Spearing, Nemeth etc instead of the useless fecks like Eggnog.

I still have not seen anything impressive with Eggnog and I thought he was the only disappointment in Singapore, apart from him the team looked really together which is amazing if you consider the number of subs, I know the oppo was sh1t but all the same it was a fine display.

My man of the match, 2nd half was either Nemeth or Diggler.

Useless Feck ?!? yet he somehow managed to get himself on the scoresheet a number of times last season - he has good pace , has a decent finish on him and has plenty of time to develop yet .

Its quite pathetic when people are calling Liverpool players useless feck - very subjective and a pure insult .

good pace, decent finish, compared to who, the only goals he got last season were more or less tap ins, he is :censored:, do you hear me :censored: and I don't consider him a Liverpool player he is not worthy of putting on that great jersey so I will insult him every day until he miraculously turns into a footballer or fecks off somewhere else.

Do you consider him better than Nemeth, and if so why?

Going by your logic Milan Legend Pippo inzaghi has to be rendered useless or [email]cr@p...[/email] Ngog plays for France U-19 regularly.. he is young and scope for improvement is huge... especially when he is playing alongside world class players
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Postby heimdall » Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:23 pm

RobinHood6969 wrote:
heimdall wrote:
GYBS wrote:
heimdall wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:Just a quote from Rafa today regarding Nemeth, i put it in the Alonso.thread but ill put it in here an all,

Nemeth came off the substitutes' bench to score twice in the Lion City and has clearly made a favourable impression on his manager.

"He was really good two years ago for the reserve team, scoring a lot of goals but last year he had some problems with injuries," added Benitez.

"But he showed today that he's a good finisher and a player with a future.

"It depends on the players always. If they're knocking on the door and they knock really hard, then I have to hear. This is important and it depends on them."


I personally think the kid is ringing loud an clear on the bell , very impressed wth him today an all

So somehow Eggnog must be knocking louder than Nemeth in Rafa's pov! This is the thing that annoys me with Rafa, not spotting young players and giving them a chance, and hopefully King Kenny can help with pushing through the talented youngsters like Spearing, Nemeth etc instead of the useless fecks like Eggnog.

I still have not seen anything impressive with Eggnog and I thought he was the only disappointment in Singapore, apart from him the team looked really together which is amazing if you consider the number of subs, I know the oppo was sh1t but all the same it was a fine display.

My man of the match, 2nd half was either Nemeth or Diggler.

Useless Feck ?!? yet he somehow managed to get himself on the scoresheet a number of times last season - he has good pace , has a decent finish on him and has plenty of time to develop yet .

Its quite pathetic when people are calling Liverpool players useless feck - very subjective and a pure insult .

good pace, decent finish, compared to who, the only goals he got last season were more or less tap ins, he is :censored:, do you hear me :censored: and I don't consider him a Liverpool player he is not worthy of putting on that great jersey so I will insult him every day until he miraculously turns into a footballer or fecks off somewhere else.

Do you consider him better than Nemeth, and if so why?

Going by your logic Milan Legend Pippo inzaghi has to be rendered useless or [email=cr@p...]cr@p...[/email] Ngog plays for France U-19 regularly.. he is young and scope for improvement is huge... especially when he is playing alongside world class players

Pippo who?? I've heard of Inzaghi but who is Pippo?? and what has he got to do with Eggnog???

anyway I don't argue that Eggnog has room for improvement but that's like saying I have room for improvement in trying to win the tour the france. Getting into the France under 19's does not impress me when you look at the state of their senior team, isn't Lucas captain of the Brazil youth team, enough said really.

Eggnog will never improve enough, he doesn't have a footballing brain capable of the prem, yes he scored a few goals last season but he was given plenty of chances too as well, yet none of the goals made me think, wow we have a gem here in the same way as Nemeth with his positioning, touch and vision does.

Mark my words Eggnog will never amount to anything in football.
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Postby RobinHood6969 » Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:39 pm

"Pippo" is the nickname for Fillippo Inazhi mate  :D ..Well i mentioned him because you were complaining about tap ins..tap ins are also important just like the 30 yarder screamer or a dribble past 4 defenders from the half way line.. Ngog is just around 20 mate.. he would definitely improve.. Lets see if he can become a better than average player atleast
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Postby big al » Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:52 pm

These stats are great but surely Man U have a bigger cleaning bill than us.  There seems to be a lot more S**t about Old trafford including the stuff that comes outta Fergies mouth.
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Postby heimdall » Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:38 pm

RobinHood6969 wrote:"Pippo" is the nickname for Fillippo Inazhi mate  :D ..Well i mentioned him because you were complaining about tap ins..tap ins are also important just like the 30 yarder screamer or a dribble past 4 defenders from the half way line.. Ngog is just around 20 mate.. he would definitely improve.. Lets see if he can become a better than average player atleast

OK OK but ffs you cannot compare Inzaghi to Eggnog. I totally agree that players can improve but by their 20's they need to be showing some promise and Eggnog just doesn't. He is the same as Lucas in that they don't make me sit up and think wow this lad has got something. Players like Pachecho, Spearing, Insua and Nemeth have that spark as did Fowler, Owen, Stevie and to a lesser extent Carra. With those players you just knew that they'd make it big from their first kick.
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Postby Igor Zidane » Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:47 pm

Well i think Eggnogg will offer our squad something . Honeslty i think the lad can and will improve . Like i said earlier he's not going to be aworld beater but he can do a job for us . Sort of a Peter Crouch job . 3rd Or 4th choice striker is ok with me . Nemeth though is going to be great i reckon , if rafa gives him a good go this pre-season we'll see more of this lad in the coming campaign.
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Postby aCe' » Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:57 pm

I agree on Ngog... he showed a great deal of potential in terms of confidence on the ball.. dont agree that he has good finishing or good pace... to me his finishing leaves alot to be admired and he lacks a bit when it comes to pace too... he does however have a decent touch on the ball and seems to have confidence in whatever ability he has... given time and experience i think he'll become a much better player and a useful asset to our side.. atm though, i dont think he's good enough to be backup to Torres, neither is Nemeth to be honest.. Would be like Chelsea having that Di Santo (Anelka) kid as backup to Drogba or ManUtd having Macheda (Owen) as backup to Rooney...

To be honest the one kid that has impressed the most besides Insua has been Pacheco... the guy has more skills than Ngog and Nemeth and seems to have alot of natural talent and flair.. could offer something we lack in the games against teams that park the bus... Im not saying hes ready to be backup to Gerrard or one of the wingers, but he can certainly provide something different coming off the bench if we're desperate..

for now, i think we desperately need a backup for Torres...
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Postby Penguins » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:13 pm

From the 1st time I saw Ngog until now nothing has changed in my opinion about him.

He is nowhere near top 4 quaility. I rate Voronin and Nameth higher even if they also are a drop a bit to steep after Torres.

Well, even if I agree we need a backup to Torres I can not see one coming. Why?

1) Money seem a bit tight at the moment.
2) A backup good enough and better then what we have would cost 10-15 million.
3) Who wants to come here that is pretty good and knows he will sit on the bench?

I just hope Nemeth and Voronin will be the beckup and not Ngog. Only time he ever scores seem to be from the goalline.
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Postby Rorschach26 » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:25 pm

aCe' wrote:
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fivecups wrote:Ace it's hard to put credibility in your figures when you won't even tell us where you got them from.

Flight made some valid points as he did in Bad Bob's money thread which Bav has mentioned, you didn't respond to them apart from calling him a newbie and I've told you the correct transfer fee for Torres.

Fact - we are still paying for the clauses in Torres transfer. We pay £150k for every 15 goals Torres scores for example. If all the clauses become payable on Torres transfer we will actually pay £27.5million.

Similarly we actually paid over £14million for Alonso. (Just ask our resident Alonso expert)

Yeh but mate do you think United & Chelsea wont have similar deals with the players they've bought

so you cant really mention stuff like that

'On the whole 'Ace newbie' comments......just plain pathetic, you think because you've been coming on a thread about Liverpool for longer you somehow know more?

sounds like a pathetic litlle losers God complex to me

first off kiddo, the newbie comment wasnt aimed at you... if you could read properly you would have realized that, surely ?!

was aimed at the other 'newbie' who came on barking about the figures being unreliable because according to him they came from a manutd forum... its that kinda cr@p that gets the insults going around here and i think calling him a newbie was as mild an insult i could come up with , same goes to you... if you wanna have a go at me do it in PM and i'll then reply to you how i see fit...

Did i say it was aimed at me? no

i just think its a pathetic thing to say
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Postby Rorschach26 » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:29 pm

Nando26 wrote:this thread is bo.llocks from someone who is an obvious closet manc/homosexual

it was just started to show what rafa has spent? why involve other clubs then?

and to compare rafas spending with fergusons spending over the last 5years is ridiculous when you cosider he had a squad jammed with quality players and ours was pi.ss poor in comparison when rafa took over

in conclusion... ACE = MANC

Id just like to point out that this was my BROTHER who wrote this using my username im going to punch the :censored: when i next see him
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