bigmick wrote:He Rushie it's normally you telling em to chill out mate not the other way round. You always stick up for Kuyt's valuation, which by definition means you must rate him to be worth as much as you think he is. There's no shame in that, pretty much everyone I reckon likes him too. Some differ on how much we'd get for him if we flogged him off, but I reckon pretty much most people think he's a decent enough player down the right. I didn't though say that you'd ever said he's a great player, but even if you had it's fair enough by me. You're as entitled to your opinion as anyone else.
I'm not particularly sticking up for Bob and was well aware the banter was fairly light hearted, I was simply making the point that it was me who talked about the selling him for three million thing and not him. When I said that a couple of months back I was told me fairly quick smart that I was talking nonsense which was and is fair enough. I don't actually do gang ups mate as quite a lot of the time I'm pretty much on my own in my opinions anyhow.
When I talked earlier on in the season about the Champions League achivements not being anywhere near as difficult as some fans like to make out, that with the English clubs' financial advantage getting to the quarter finals and the like should be a minimum, nobody agreed with me. Not a one. I don't think anyone does still to be honest , I'm in a minority of one. I just felt that you and Bob were having a disagreement over something when in actual fact you were agreeing with each other. Needless to say as it turns out I'd have been better off keeping my big fat conk out of it, but there you go .
Number 9 wrote:bigmick wrote:Rushie you obviously really like Kuyt which is fair enough. You've been ultra loyal to him in the face of almost universal criticism of the fella which once again is more power to your elbow and that. I can't help thinking though that your kind of nit picking a bit in criticising Bob over his valuation of Kuyt, it's not that far off your own. You both agree he's not really up to playing up front for Liverpool, (be it through a lack of pace, awareness, touch, goal threat or anything else). You also both agree he's doing a good job on the right. he thinks Kuyt's value has dropped since we bought him, as we paid 9 mill or so and he's currently woth between 5-7 mill. You think he's worth over 7 mill and therefore his value is more or less the same as it was when we bought him. It hardly seems to me that you have any basis for disagreeing with each other.
I on the other hand valued Kuyt at 3 million earlier in the season, and am fully prepared to admit I was wrong. I would now take 5 mill for him if it was offered.
Its not Deal or no Deal Mick!!
I put your lack of respect for Kuyt down to 3 things.
1)Working long hours
2)Listening to Saint
3)Listening to BadBob
He has been great for LFC since the 4-2-3-1.As important in the last half of last season as any player we have!
I agree with rafa we need players like this.Some of you think that world class(whatever that is) players are needed all over the pitch!That is wrong!
Football is a complex game70%skill and 30%head in my opinion!
Players that believe and have desire will take teams to places when the skill falls short.There is NO team in the world that are unbeatable in terms of skill.When a team can find a balance of skill and belief they are hard to beat...Work hard,fight hard,treat every game as your last,give 100% every time you train as if its for real!
Thats why LFC needs a player or players like Dirk Kuyt and so does Raffa!
As long as Rafa is here so will be KUYT!!
Im happy with that!!
Number 9 wrote:I put your lack of respect for Kuyt down to 3 things.
1)Working long hours
2)Listening to Saint
3)Listening to BadBob
He has been great for LFC since the 4-2-3-1.As important in the last half of last season as any player we have!
Fo Dne wrote:Number 9 wrote:I put your lack of respect for Kuyt down to 3 things.
1)Working long hours
2)Listening to Saint
3)Listening to BadBob
He has been great for LFC since the 4-2-3-1.As important in the last half of last season as any player we have!
He's been as important as Torres or Gerrard?
Do us a favour...
When I talked earlier on in the season about the Champions League achivements not being anywhere near as difficult as some fans like to make out, that with the English clubs' financial advantage getting to the quarter finals and the like should be a minimum, nobody agreed with me. Not a one. I don't think anyone does still to be honest , I'm in a minority of one.
bigmick wrote:I agree with all that Barry, maybe not quite to the degree you do but I'm not denying he did well. All I'm saying though is that claiming as some are that he was as important to the team as either Torres or Gerrard is just being daft.
Number 9 wrote:bigmick wrote:I agree with all that Barry, maybe not quite to the degree you do but I'm not denying he did well. All I'm saying though is that claiming as some are that he was as important to the team as either Torres or Gerrard is just being daft.
Ok he was 4th best after Mascherano!!
Thats all im giving,FFS give the man a break like..Mick we dont need to replace players like Kuyt.
s@int wrote:Number 9 wrote:bigmick wrote:I agree with all that Barry, maybe not quite to the degree you do but I'm not denying he did well. All I'm saying though is that claiming as some are that he was as important to the team as either Torres or Gerrard is just being daft.
Ok he was 4th best after Mascherano!!
Thats all im giving,FFS give the man a break like..Mick we dont need to replace players like Kuyt.
I thought Reina had a pretty good season too Barry
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