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[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

metalhead

No he doesn't, if he needs dropping then Lucas and Henderson too.

they arent ripping up tree`s but at least they are working hard and `pulling their weight`, gerrards lack of mobility is putting pressure on other players around him. he`s in the side on reputation atm.

[Stu the Red]

If Mata is available there would be a queue of clubs looking at him and we would be a long way down the list - no chance of getting Mata

So you don't think putting the feelers out and testing the water, then leaking it to the press depending of the outcome of the talks would help?

Don't you think a Liverpool manager should be able to convince someone of that quality to join?

What a f*cking pathetic arguement that is.

It's not an argument it's reality - Mata is one of the best in the prem - a top level CL player who would be chased by top CL clubs.

1. We couldn't afford his fee

2. We couldn't afford his wages

3. He wouldn't come to us because of our lack of CL

What exactly would it be that would appeal to Mata that would even make him think for a split second of speaking to us !

1. How do you know?

2. Same as above.

3. Bollox

4. First team football, the chance to play with Gerrard and Suarez "Rodgers style of play" and maybe the manager could convince him that he'll be the one to add the quality needed to get into fourth place.

5. Are you that blinkered you don't see we have players we could get rid of to raise the funds that are on silly wages and wouldn't be missed?

6. TOOL.

[Doeboy]

.. and on the point about Stevie. He is getting to the twilight of his career no doubt and doesn't have the same physical attributes he had when he was younger but can't help but think if we had a real powerful presence alongside him it would help. Lucas is very good at breaking up play, intercepting, getting his tackles in but isn't one to dominate the midfield with power, pace etc.

Definitely think we could do with a player in the Yaya Toure/Dembele mould. They are very good at keeping/shielding the ball and driving forward with it using their strength while also using that for defensive duties. They literally wrestle control of the midfield from the opposition and in certain games when the cute intricate stuff isn't working, you have to grab control of the midfield and smash the door down

[Stu the Red]

metalhead

No he doesn't, if he needs dropping then Lucas and Henderson too.

they arent ripping up tree`s but at least they are working hard and `pulling their weight`, gerrards lack of mobility is putting pressure on other players around him. he`s in the side on reputation atm.

Absolutely clueless.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

And replaced by who exactly !! No point dropping someone if there isn't someone to replace him

he is doing nothing, if someone offered a bit of energy they`d be an upgrade because atm gerrard is actually a liability. given the pace of the game these days you cant afford to carry passengers in a 3 man midfield.
the midfield hasnt put their stamp on one game this season, every single game we end up on the back foot. there is no energy in our midfield and we are second to every loose ball, if a game becomes stretched we are the ones defending for our lives.

So who are you replacing him with then ? Name someone

anyone who runs more than him will be an upgrade, it doesnt matter is they create nothing because gerrard isnt himself.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

metalhead

No he doesn't, if he needs dropping then Lucas and Henderson too.

they arent ripping up tree`s but at least they are working hard and `pulling their weight`, gerrards lack of mobility is putting pressure on other players around him. he`s in the side on reputation atm.

Absolutely clueless.

i think some of you have got to come to terms with the fact that gerrard is 33/34 now, he`s had 15 hard years playing week in week out at the highest level and it`s starting to show. it happens to every player no matter how great they are, i`ve seen it countless times before and imo gerrard is starting to show serious signs of being over the hill. at his age you dont improve it`s just a question of how quickly (or slowly) your game deteriorates.
what doesnt help is that he is playing in a position that demands athleticism and mobility, carragher played a year or two longer but he played in a position where you do a fraction of the running you do in the central midfield.

[Stu the Red]

i think some of you have got to come to terms with the fact that gerrard is 33/34 now, he`s had 15 hard years playing week in week out at the highest level and it`s starting to show. it happens to every player no matter how great they are, i`ve seen it countless times before and imo gerrard is starting to show serious signs of being over the hill. at his age you dont improve it`s just a question of how quickly (or slowly) your game deteriorates.
what doesnt help is that he is playing in a position that demands athleticism and mobility, carragher played a year or two longer but he played in a position where you do a fraction of the running you do in the central midfield.

He's 33.

You're talking out of your backside. Central midfield is an area you do not need mobility. Paul Scholes couldn't run for Toffee yet is one of the best midfielders to ever play in this league.

Gerrard is absoloutely miles past his stunning best. Of that, there is absoloutely no question what so ever. The fact is, if he was half the player of before, which I can assure you, he is alot more than that (watch the United game, Villa game etc) then he's still a f*cking good player.

He has a shocking lack of quality around him in Lucas and Henderson. You are right in the sense that he isn't good enough to carry players of that ilk anymore. But Gerrard would still get into EVERY SIDE in this country with a blindfold on.

He is not the problem what so ever, its the lack of quality around him. The sooner people get there heads out there ***** and stop making scape goats out of our second best player just because he's no longer the world beater he used to be, the sooner we can all start talking about the real issues like Henderson, Aspas, Moses, the defence and the lack of ideas and goals in the team.

[Hustler 2]

Just a thought from Hustler.....you need not start any more topics Stu ......as they are all clueless garbage.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

i think some of you have got to come to terms with the fact that gerrard is 33/34 now, he`s had 15 hard years playing week in week out at the highest level and it`s starting to show. it happens to every player no matter how great they are, i`ve seen it countless times before and imo gerrard is starting to show serious signs of being over the hill. at his age you dont improve it`s just a question of how quickly (or slowly) your game deteriorates.
what doesnt help is that he is playing in a position that demands athleticism and mobility, carragher played a year or two longer but he played in a position where you do a fraction of the running you do in the central midfield.

Well said ,although its Rodgers who needs to come to terms with this ,as for posters who cant see the wood for the trees, I really couldn't care less.
Its seems there exists quite a few who are obviously afflicted with the sadly incurable and (whilst they're still intent on championing the Gerrard cause
at all costs) seemingly inoperable' Tunnel Vision' .

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

i think some of you have got to come to terms with the fact that gerrard is 33/34 now, he`s had 15 hard years playing week in week out at the highest level and it`s starting to show. it happens to every player no matter how great they are, i`ve seen it countless times before and imo gerrard is starting to show serious signs of being over the hill. at his age you dont improve it`s just a question of how quickly (or slowly) your game deteriorates.
what doesnt help is that he is playing in a position that demands athleticism and mobility, carragher played a year or two longer but he played in a position where you do a fraction of the running you do in the central midfield.

He's 33.

You're talking out of your backside. Central midfield is an area you do not need mobility. Paul Scholes couldn't run for Toffee yet is one of the best midfielders to ever play in this league.

Gerrard is absoloutely miles past his stunning best. Of that, there is absoloutely no question what so ever. The fact is, if he was half the player of before, which I can assure you, he is alot more than that (watch the United game, Villa game etc) then he's still a f*cking good player.

He has a shocking lack of quality around him in Lucas and Henderson. You are right in the sense that he isn't good enough to carry players of that ilk anymore. But Gerrard would still get into EVERY SIDE in this country with a blindfold on.

He is not the problem what so ever, its the lack of quality around him. The sooner people get there heads out there ***** and stop making scape goats out of our second best player just because he's no longer the world beater he used to be, the sooner we can all start talking about the real issues like Henderson, Aspas, Moses, the defence and the lack of ideas and goals in the team.

scholes had more mobility than this version of gerrard, open your eyes lad, in the last 20 minutes of games gerrard does more walking than running!!
you are blaming hendo when the reason he is in the side is because gerrard cant run, hendo was brought in because gerrard and lucas as a pair were getting outworked and over run.
we cannot afford to carry passengers in a 3 man midfield, we just cant, every game is the same.
either move gerrard wide right or drop him but for ffs get him out of the middle

[Stu the Red]

i think some of you have got to come to terms with the fact that gerrard is 33/34 now, he`s had 15 hard years playing week in week out at the highest level and it`s starting to show. it happens to every player no matter how great they are, i`ve seen it countless times before and imo gerrard is starting to show serious signs of being over the hill. at his age you dont improve it`s just a question of how quickly (or slowly) your game deteriorates.
what doesnt help is that he is playing in a position that demands athleticism and mobility, carragher played a year or two longer but he played in a position where you do a fraction of the running you do in the central midfield.

He's 33.

You're talking out of your backside. Central midfield is an area you do not need mobility. Paul Scholes couldn't run for Toffee yet is one of the best midfielders to ever play in this league.

Gerrard is absoloutely miles past his stunning best. Of that, there is absoloutely no question what so ever. The fact is, if he was half the player of before, which I can assure you, he is alot more than that (watch the United game, Villa game etc) then he's still a f*cking good player.

He has a shocking lack of quality around him in Lucas and Henderson. You are right in the sense that he isn't good enough to carry players of that ilk anymore. But Gerrard would still get into EVERY SIDE in this country with a blindfold on.

He is not the problem what so ever, its the lack of quality around him. The sooner people get there heads out there ***** and stop making scape goats out of our second best player just because he's no longer the world beater he used to be, the sooner we can all start talking about the real issues like Henderson, Aspas, Moses, the defence and the lack of ideas and goals in the team.

scholes had more mobility than this version of gerrard, open your eyes lad, in the last 20 minutes of games gerrard does more walking than running!!
you are blaming hendo when the reason he is in the side is because gerrard cant run, hendo was brought in because gerrard and lucas as a pair were getting outworked and over run.
we cannot afford to carry passengers in a 3 man midfield, we just cant, every game is the same.
either move gerrard wide right or drop him but for ffs get him out of the middle

Might aswell go all the way then and get rid of Suarez and Coutinho aswell. As you say, we've got the wonderful Henderson and Lucas and probably Sterling, Sturridge and Aspas too...

f*ck all our good players off and play with players who "work hard and run lots".

Another one who's never played the game.

[Benny The Noon]

So you don't think putting the feelers out and testing the water, then leaking it to the press depending of the outcome of the talks would help?

Don't you think a Liverpool manager should be able to convince someone of that quality to join?

What a f*cking pathetic arguement that is.

It's not an argument it's reality - Mata is one of the best in the prem - a top level CL player who would be chased by top CL clubs.

1. We couldn't afford his fee

2. We couldn't afford his wages

3. He wouldn't come to us because of our lack of CL

What exactly would it be that would appeal to Mata that would even make him think for a split second of speaking to us !

1. How do you know?

2. Same as above.

3. Bollox

4. First team football, the chance to play with Gerrard and Suarez "Rodgers style of play" and maybe the manager could convince him that he'll be the one to add the quality needed to get into fourth place.

5. Are you that blinkered you don't see we have players we could get rid of to raise the funds that are on silly wages and wouldn't be missed?

6. TOOL.

You go around claiming a lot of stuff but reality is you haven't got a clue !!

We wouldn't have a prayer getting Mata - we aren't an attraction for top players - Did you not see the three players that turned us down during the sumer !?

[Benny The Noon]

he is doing nothing, if someone offered a bit of energy they`d be an upgrade because atm gerrard is actually a liability. given the pace of the game these days you cant afford to carry passengers in a 3 man midfield.
the midfield hasnt put their stamp on one game this season, every single game we end up on the back foot. there is no energy in our midfield and we are second to every loose ball, if a game becomes stretched we are the ones defending for our lives.

So who are you replacing him with then ? Name someone

anyone who runs more than him will be an upgrade, it doesnt matter is they create nothing because gerrard isnt himself.

Who ? Name the player in our squad you would replace him

There is no point blurting out that Gerrard needs dropping if we don't have someone to take his place ! You obviously can't name someone

[Stu the Red]

Missing the point as usual! Can see why 90% of the forum wanted you banned, only been back on two weeks myself and you're nearly as much of a mong as Hustler.

Ignored!

[Hustler 2]

Missing the point as usual! Can see why 90% of the forum wanted you banned, only been back on two weeks myself and you're nearly as much of a mong as Hustler.

Ignored!

Priceless.