Job too big for Rodgers?

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Is the job too big for Rodgers and last season was a flash in the pan down to Suarez carrying us?

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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:54 am

He is a young manager under pressure and he is going to make mistakes. The only thing that counts in football is points on the board, if Rodgers thinks certain people are being unfair and going over the top in their criticism then all he has to do is win games, as he found out himself when we came second if you win games you can chat shyte all day long and people will love you.
Look at Suarez, he dragged the clubs name through the mud, wanted to go to one of our main rivals, called the manager and owners liars and didn't really give a shyte about LFC but the fans still love him. Why? Because he was a winner.
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Postby johnbarnes » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:45 am

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Postby johnbarnes » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:03 am

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:54 am wrote:He is a young manager under pressure and he is going to make mistakes. The only thing that counts in football is points on the board, if Rodgers thinks certain people are being unfair and going over the top in their criticism then all he has to do is win games, as he found out himself when we came second if you win games you can chat shyte all day long and people will love you.
Look at Suarez, he dragged the clubs name through the mud, wanted to go to one of our main rivals, called the manager and owners liars and didn't really give a shyte about LFC but the fans still love him. Why? Because he was a winner.


Yeah, sickening the way the fans have turned!
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Postby red till i die!! » Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:06 pm

Not surprised he came out like that  :no  He's an arrogant muppet who blames everyone but himself. Behind it all he doesn't believe he is responsible as he has players there that he didn't want and the goals we concede are down to individual errors not his coaching. He believes he is also a better coach now than back in 2012 and he masterminded our title challenge and would do it again if he had the tools. He thinks he is doing such a great job but somehow is now the victim of a conspiracy.  :laugh:
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Postby woof woof ! » Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:18 pm

red till i die!! » Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:06 pm wrote: Behind it all he doesn't believe he is responsible as he has players there that he didn't want


Maybe I missed the original press release but today on the Sunday Supplement (newspaper journo show) they mentioned that Rodgers claimed (admitted ?   :D  ) that with regard to the transfer committee "No player is signed without his final agreement", therefore taking responsibility for all our transfer dealing during his tenure.

If he's really holding up his hand and saying he's had the final say on all our signings since he arrived, for me at least it's even more reason why this used car salesman should go !    :kungfu:
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Postby RedAnt » Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:19 pm

woof woof ! » Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:18 pm wrote:
red till i die!! » Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:06 pm wrote: Behind it all he doesn't believe he is responsible as he has players there that he didn't want


Maybe I missed the original press release but today on the Sunday Supplement (newspaper journo show) they mentioned that Rodgers claimed (admitted ?   :D  ) that with regard to the transfer committee "No player is signed without his final agreement", therefore taking responsibility for all our transfer dealing during his tenure.

If he's really holding up his hand and saying he's had the final say on all our signings since he arrived, for me at least it's even more reason why this used car salesman should go !    :kungfu:



This is what it all boils down to. He's slimey and sly. When we talk of the Liverpool way it includes decorum and honesty. Like RTID I also raised my eyebrows at "lacking the tools for the job". He's also been banging on about Sturridge and how simple it is, because he's top quality and implying that the rest probably aren't. As Woof says, Brendan signed these players. Spent an absolute fortune in 3 years making this squad. He's also said "rebuilding" this season. Why? What are we rebuilding? Throw in all the "outstanding" performances he manages to squeeze out of these players he's signed and you have a man who simply doesn't belong at Liverpool FC.
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Postby johnbarnes » Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:22 pm

red till i die!! » Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:06 pm wrote:Not surprised he came out like that  :no  He's an arrogant muppet who blames everyone but himself. Behind it all he doesn't believe he is responsible as he has players there that he didn't want and the goals we concede are down to individual errors not his coaching. He believes he is also a better coach now than back in 2012 and he masterminded our title challenge and would do it again if he had the tools. He thinks he is doing such a great job but somehow is now the victim of a conspiracy.  :laugh:


To be fair to BR, his ability to spin is his strength.
Shame he didn't run for political office and it's a shame that the ability to be the king of spin is an unwanted trait in Football. Especially LFC.
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Postby red till i die!! » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:37 pm

woof woof ! » Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:18 pm wrote:
red till i die!! » Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:06 pm wrote: Behind it all he doesn't believe he is responsible as he has players there that he didn't want


Maybe I missed the original press release but today on the Sunday Supplement (newspaper journo show) they mentioned that Rodgers claimed (admitted ?   :D  ) that with regard to the transfer committee "No player is signed without his final agreement", therefore taking responsibility for all our transfer dealing during his tenure.

If he's really holding up his hand and saying he's had the final say on all our signings since he arrived, for me at least it's even more reason why this used car salesman should go !    :kungfu:


It was an interview with pearce last week in which he said it. If I can find it I will post it.
If he is saying something different now then its just typical of him. He said the exact same thing to Pearce last year when he spoke about the committee and said no players were being bought without his say so. He must have amnesia or he thinks\wishes everyone else has.
Used car salesman is being kind  :D
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Postby red till i die!! » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:21 pm

Here it is along with a few other nuggets from the great one

Sixteen months ago we nearly won the league and I was Manager of the Year. Sixteen months later, you’re not so good at your job, when you’re actually better at your job. I think I’ve made it pretty clear – and I don’t like to go on too much about it – but I think I’ve shown what I can do when I have the tools to work, what I can deliver.”


A poor workman always blames his tools  :nod

“I think it’s one where the players understand how we want to work. There’s been a lot of change and we’ve lost some big players here – both in terms of characters and quality - but that’s the nature of how it is here. There’s change and you’ve got to manage that change and do the best you can with it.

“What is clear, in the couple of years I’ve been here, is when we’ve had the availability of top class players, I think I’ve proven I can build a team that plays a way of football that excites and challenges at the top end of the table.


So clear Brendan  :lookaround

"The responsibility will always go with the manager. You put out the team, there are players here that the club signed and it’s my job to maximise what we can get out of the players and I will continue to do that. What I’ll always do is give my best to the club and if they decide they need to change, I’ll totally respect that.


Even though the club signed players he has "maximised" their potential  :laugh: and he will continue to do that  :laugh:  :laugh: 

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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:17 am

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/liverpool-fc-boss-rodgers-ill-10143930

Liverpool FC boss Rodgers: I'll overcome "frenzy" to get me the sack

Brendan Rodgers has vowed to overcome the “frenzy” over his future as the defiant Liverpool boss insisted: “I have a hunger to succeed here.”

Saturday’s 3-2 victory over Aston Villa eased the pressure on the Reds boss after a miserable run of results.

Rodgers hit out at what he perceives to be a campaign to get him sacked and claimed the scrutiny of life at Liverpool is greater than at any other club.

However, he reiterated his determination to remain in the job and transform his Anfield reign.

“There has been a frenzy, there is no doubt about that, to get me out of here,” Rodgers said.

“Whether that’s a Liverpool hysteria or a big club hysteria, I am not so sure. The scrutiny here is obviously greater, for me, than at any club.

“It is a huge club and as a manager you know that and deal with it.
“I am fine. You know what comes from leadership and being a manager. I’ve never got too carried away when we’ve won, and not too disappointed when we’ve lost.
“I have a hunger to succeed here. I know last season and this there have been a lot of things going against us, but we’ve always managed to stick together and improve together.

“The players and staff are very much together, fighting to be better and to live up to the expectations we create ourselves that is to be the best. With players returning we can have a great season. With me there is no drama, I only worry about the team.”

Daniel Sturridge’s second-half double inspired Liverpool to their first league win in five matches and lifted them back to within touching distance of the Champions League spots.
Rodgers believes the criticism he has been subjected to has been unfair considering how close he came to winning the title two seasons ago and the issues he’s been wrestling with since.

Luis Suarez, Steven Gerrard and Raheem Sterling have all left, while Sturridge has only recently returned to action after an injury plagued 12 months.

This season his squad has been depleted with captain Jordan Henderson, Christian Benteke, Roberto Firmino and Dejan Lovren all currently sidelined.

“It’s not about proving people wrong,” Rodgers said.

“I think I have shown in the early stages of my management – without being arrogant – that with a talented group of players I can compete at the top end of the league.

There are very short memories in football. The team was eighth when I got here and we built and produced a team to excite people throughout European football that should have won the league.

“It didn’t but nobody even expected us to be near the top four. I know how to manage top players and build and manage an exciting group, but when you lose that or those players are not available and you have to piece it together, that takes time. Then all the good work gets forgotten. That’s how it works.

“My only gripe is that it seems the focus has not been on what’s gone on and what we’ve been missing, but more about getting me out of the club. That’s sad.

“I am the same man who nearly won us the game, but better. If you give me the tools I’ll do the work.”

Seems evident there is only one tool that isn't up to the job
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Postby eds » Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:19 am

Reg » Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:42 am wrote:We need to be careful here or we'll all go off our noddies.

1. BR is going thru a horrible spell.
2. He knows it, the fans know it and FSG know it.
3. I'm sure there is a performance target agreed between the owners and manager which will determine his fate.

As a consequence of the above, lets all calm down and see this thru, either BR ups his game and we'll all happy or he under performs and he's out.

We don't need a constant barrage of daily moans, whinges and insults as believe it or not apart from putting people off the forum, it doesn't actually achieve anything.

We watch, we wait, we hope - that our football team gets back into winning ways.


C'mon Reg, the arrogant muppet is now saying there is a conspiracy to oust him.

Looks like you might need to change your footer now.   :laugh:
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Postby RedAnt » Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:46 am

I reckon a lot of people want Brendan gone, regardless of wether they're standing inside Anfield or out. There's no conspiracy, is there? Poor performances, poor decorum and plenty of arrogance is enough. A conspiracy sounds more like BR's style than anything else.
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Postby Reg » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:26 am

Conspiracies abound Eds, all is well in the world!

You see Blatter is under criminal investigation for paying Platini 1.35 million quid for a job Platini says he did whilst he still worked for FIFA? ... despite he stopped working for FIFA 9 years previously. The papers are now saying he was paid that money to pull out of the race against Blatter to be FIFA president. Now there's a conspiracy, using FIFA money to pay off candidates not to run against them......  :ghostface:  :ghostface:
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Postby woof woof ! » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:12 am

RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:17 am wrote:“I am the same man who nearly won us the game, but better. If you give me the tools I’ll do the work.”

Seems evident there is only one tool that isn't up to the job


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What Rodgers is neatly sidestepping is the fact that after the sale of our prized assets he was given the money to buy new tools to do the f'ucking work !!!

Instead of putting together a small kit of high quality "tools" he went and bought a chest full of overpriced substandard ones, and all that after he'd declared post Suarez's departure "I intend to bring in 3 or 4 quality players"

We fans are of course still waiting to see them to being delivered    :glare:
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Postby johnbarnes » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:34 am

woof woof ! » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:12 am wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:17 am wrote:“I am the same man who nearly won us the game, but better. If you give me the tools I’ll do the work.”

Seems evident there is only one tool that isn't up to the job


:laugh:

What Rodgers is neatly sidestepping is the fact that after the sale of our prized assets he was given the money to buy new tools to do the f'ucking work !!!

Instead of putting together a small kit of high quality "tools" he went and bought a chest full of overpriced substandard ones, and all that after he'd declared post Suarez's departure "I intend to bring in 3 or 4 quality players"

We fans are of course still waiting to see them to being delivered    :glare:


This is what happens when BR uses DHL to do the delivering.
There's no conspiracy in using a known Manure sponsor as your courier
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