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Postby NANNY RED » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:58 pm

roberto green wrote:
s@int wrote:I believe we have the players to be challenging for the league...... just not the manager to accomplish it. We need someone to give the players confidence in their ability and mold them into a team that fights for every point rather than a team who's heads drop at the first setback.

For too long now we have accepted second best and now people no longer even believe we have the players :no  ...... our "next season we will win the league" has become as much a joke as "this time next year we will be millionaires".

Our blips become bliiiiips our players loss of form lasts too long and we need inspiration not persperation. We need fresh impetus, and the cheapest easiest solution is to bring in a manager who can get the best out of the players we have rather than moaning about the players we might have had if only he had another couple of hundred million.

You may of just converted me

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im watching you Kev :nod
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Postby LFC2007 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:59 pm

If Insua is just decent and Carra ragged, and Johnson dodgy, and Lucas not good enough to get in a Birmingham eleven and Riera and Benayoun 'average' and Kuyt woefully inept, and Ngog a mile off the pace and the remainder pretty good or outstanding but generally injured or struggling form, have we had enough to be challenging for the league?

They're not my views but it just strikes me that people talk as if we should be challenging all the while rating our squad as distinctly average. It doesn't add up.
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Postby Emerald Red » Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:01 pm

LFC2007 wrote:If Insua is just decent and Carra ragged, and Johnson dodgy, and Lucas not good enough to get in a Birmingham eleven and Riera and Benayoun 'average' and Kuyt woefully inept, and Ngog a mile off the pace and the remainder pretty good or outstanding but generally injured or struggling form, have we had enough to be challenging for the league?

They're not my views but it just strikes me that people talk as if we should be challenging all the while rating our squad as distinctly average. It doesn't add up.

Bingo!
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Postby roberto green » Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:02 pm

NANNY RED wrote:
roberto green wrote:
s@int wrote:I believe we have the players to be challenging for the league...... just not the manager to accomplish it. We need someone to give the players confidence in their ability and mold them into a team that fights for every point rather than a team who's heads drop at the first setback.

For too long now we have accepted second best and now people no longer even believe we have the players :no  ...... our "next season we will win the league" has become as much a joke as "this time next year we will be millionaires".

Our blips become bliiiiips our players loss of form lasts too long and we need inspiration not persperation. We need fresh impetus, and the cheapest easiest solution is to bring in a manager who can get the best out of the players we have rather than moaning about the players we might have had if only he had another couple of hundred million.

You may of just converted me

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im watching you Kev :nod

No Rafa's still the man.

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Postby dawson99 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:03 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:If Insua is just decent and Carra ragged, and Johnson dodgy, and Lucas not good enough to get in a Birmingham eleven and Riera and Benayoun 'average' and Kuyt woefully inept, and Ngog a mile off the pace and the remainder pretty good or outstanding but generally injured or struggling form, have we had enough to be challenging for the league?

They're not my views but it just strikes me that people talk as if we should be challenging all the while rating our squad as distinctly average. It doesn't add up.

Bingo!

agreed!
who brought this pish! lol


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Postby account deleted by request » Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:04 pm

LFC2007 wrote:If Insua is just decent and Carra ragged, and Johnson dodgy, and Lucas not good enough to get in a Birmingham eleven and Riera and Benayoun 'average' and Kuyt woefully inept, and Ngog a mile off the pace and the remainder pretty good or outstanding but generally injured or struggling form, have we had enough to be challenging for the league?

They're not my views but it just strikes me that people talk as if we should be challenging all the while rating our squad as distinctly average. It doesn't add up.

And yet last season we challenged for the title with those players ? (excluding Johnson).
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Postby LFC2007 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:06 pm

s@int wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:If Insua is just decent and Carra ragged, and Johnson dodgy, and Lucas not good enough to get in a Birmingham eleven and Riera and Benayoun 'average' and Kuyt woefully inept, and Ngog a mile off the pace and the remainder pretty good or outstanding but generally injured or struggling form, have we had enough to be challenging for the league?

They're not my views but it just strikes me that people talk as if we should be challenging all the while rating our squad as distinctly average. It doesn't add up.

And yet last season we challenged for the title with those players ? (excluding Johnson).

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Postby fivecups » Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:12 pm

NANNY RED wrote:
fivecups wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
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NANNY RED wrote:Daws just give in to Saint an let him have his evil way with you an everything will be fine, :laugh:

Jealousy is such an ugly emotion Nanny 

:laugh: ive got a younger model now Saint ive got Kev Costna :nod cant be doing with yous oldies anymore,

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You have to give him 50 grand to start a business if you want him Nan.  :D
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Postby Bad Bob » Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:13 pm

Alonso was the key to everything, obviously. :D
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Postby account deleted by request » Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:14 pm

LFC2007 wrote:
s@int wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:If Insua is just decent and Carra ragged, and Johnson dodgy, and Lucas not good enough to get in a Birmingham eleven and Riera and Benayoun 'average' and Kuyt woefully inept, and Ngog a mile off the pace and the remainder pretty good or outstanding but generally injured or struggling form, have we had enough to be challenging for the league?

They're not my views but it just strikes me that people talk as if we should be challenging all the while rating our squad as distinctly average. It doesn't add up.

And yet last season we challenged for the title with those players ? (excluding Johnson).

Correct.

Imo its the players that ARE NOT contributing that are costing us. Players like Degan, Dossena, Babel, Voronin etc. If they were playing their part (or good enough) maybe injuries/loss of form wouldn't have been such a big factor this season.
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Postby account deleted by request » Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:17 pm

Bad Bob wrote:Alonso was the key to everything, obviously. :D

More like the loss of Gareth Barry  :D
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Postby Bad Bob » Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:18 pm

Barry isn't a patch on Alonso...it's all Rafa's fault (wait, it kinda is in this case). :D
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Postby NANNY RED » Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:19 pm

In bulk here at fivecups :laugh:
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Postby dawson99 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:21 pm

i blame Rafa for making me watch 2 girls and a cup
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Postby Number 9 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:21 pm

fivecups wrote:"Are you Iris in disguise?"

Whos Iris :laugh:[/quote]
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You have to give him 50 grand to start a business if you want him Nan.  :D[/quote]
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