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Postby 115-1073096938 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:18 pm

KOP-1892 wrote:Stu you're so full of f*cking sh*t man! Why can't you take other people's opinion's? Because you're obsessed with your own, you continuelly try to force your opinion on everyone and talk down to all on this board, if you don't think it's right then it's wrong. Get a f*cking life you self obsessed :censored:.

I also never once said that it was a fact he was better than Pennant as he was in the England squad, read it again muppet. However, if Pennant had all this ability and is so much better don't you think he would at least be in the squad?

Also like i said in another post, doesn't the fact that Mourinho favours two left wingers and a centre mid ahead of Wright-Phillips tell you something? He's the only right winger Chelsea possess and he can't get a game.


You just give me a load of sh*t because you thought I based my opinion on what Sven think's, could you just tell me why the f*ck it make's a difference what Mourinho think's then?

You're a f*cking idiot with a little too much knowledge for your own good, learn how to be nice you sour f*ck.
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Mourinho is a different class of manager to Sven who does :censored: all.

Its not about opinions, what you are saying is simply wrong. Thats the end of it.
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Postby HacksawJimDuggin » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:21 pm

It is about opinions Stu, that's why it's a forum!!
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:22 pm

stu_the_red wrote:How funny are some people... Wright-(overated)Phillips over Joaquin. :laugh:

Stu, am I to beleive you would prefer to buy Joaquin rather than Wright Phillips, if they where both the same price ?
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Postby 115-1073096938 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:26 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:
stu_the_red wrote:How funny are some people... Wright-(overated)Phillips over Joaquin. :laugh:

Stu, am I to beleive you would prefer to buy Joaquin rather than Wright Phillips, if they where both the same price ?

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Postby Leonmc0708 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:35 pm

stu_the_red wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:
stu_the_red wrote:How funny are some people... Wright-(overated)Phillips over Joaquin. :laugh:

Stu, am I to beleive you would prefer to buy Joaquin rather than Wright Phillips, if they where both the same price ?

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Stu am I to beleive you are incapable of discussion ?
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Postby 115-1073096938 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:43 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:
stu_the_red wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:
stu_the_red wrote:How funny are some people... Wright-(overated)Phillips over Joaquin. :laugh:

Stu, am I to beleive you would prefer to buy Joaquin rather than Wright Phillips, if they where both the same price ?

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Stu am I to beleive you are incapable of discussion ?

Coming from the biggest moaning hypocryte on the boards... Oh the irony.

I don't wish to discuss anything with you. You're a :censored:. Everyone knows that. :)
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Postby Gareth G » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:46 pm

Bollox Stu, it is about opinion's, and no I'm not simply wrong!

And no Stu, you're the pratt and everyone know's. You're uncapable of a normal discussion and can't be open minded. Like I said, if someone's opinion doesn't coinside with yours then there's no talking to you, you like the child who think's he know's everything.
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:59 pm

stu_the_red wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:
stu_the_red wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:
stu_the_red wrote:How funny are some people... Wright-(overated)Phillips over Joaquin. :laugh:

Stu, am I to beleive you would prefer to buy Joaquin rather than Wright Phillips, if they where both the same price ?

:laugh:

Stu am I to beleive you are incapable of discussion ?

Coming from the biggest moaning hypocryte on the boards... Oh the irony.

I don't wish to discuss anything with you. You're a :censored:. Everyone knows that. :)

Hypocite - one who puts on a mask and feigns himself to be what he is not; a dissembler in religion. Our Lord severely rebuked the scribes and Pharisees for their hypocrisy.

Just so you know.

Anyway for anyone who would liek to discuss the point, I would take SWP over Joaquin (if both the same cost) as SWP is proven in the league at this level.
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Postby Paul C » Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:31 pm

Stu does have a point regards to Ericsson, I've always been unsure about SWP but I would love to see Joaquin join us, on the other hand I've seen loads more of SWP than I have Joaquin and most of the Joaquin stuff has been on high light videos ???
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Postby Gareth G » Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:56 pm

Thing is Paul, the topic isn't about Eriksson!

As I said before, there's no doubt that Joaquin is world class, but he'd cost too much and probably be much like Garcia in regard's to being in and out of a game too much, he would be too inconsistant to warrant any interest, not to mention his fee.
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Postby bigmick » Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:25 pm

My opinon for what it's worth is this. I reckon we'll have in the region of 5 million quid to spend on a right-mid, once we've spent the rest on strikers.
Joaquin- I haven't seen much of him TBH other than the two Champions league games against us. I know Stu rates him as does Johnny Mac and one or two other knowledgeable people. I don't doubt he is a good player but I do doubt as with any player coming from overseas whether he would be able to adapt. If reports are to be believed he is well out of our price range anyhow so not really worth getting carried away about.
Wright-Phillips- Given the choice I would have him over Joaquin from what I know, which admittedly isn't much. He would be an absolutely cast-iron guaranteed certainty to improve our team, works the line all day long and is a top player in my view. He doesn't get injured over often, has a great attitude and is young. In my opinion, if you had the pick of the blokes frequently mentioned, I'd take Wright-Phillips. That said Chelsea wouldn't sell him to us even for a profit and whatever, he is now way out of our and everybody else's price range.
Pennant- Different type of player to Wright-Phillips making the comparison somewhat nulland void in my view. Overall though, I'd take the Chelsea man as he works the line forward and backwards better and scores more goals IMHO. Pennant does however knock a better ball in and I think given our budget, he is our man. For about 5-6 million (less if Brum go down) we could pick him up and he could be our right-mid for years to come. I don't think he is as good a player as Wright-Phillips but there shouldn't be 17 million quid difference in their value, get him.
Simao-well if he's worth 12 million quid based on what I've seen, maybe wright-Phillips is worth 23. There is no doubt he is a talented player, but he would have to completely change the way he plays the game to be a success over here. He would be hitting the deck left, right and centre in the Prem to hoots of derision. He would have to learn a completely different way of playing. I'm not saying he can't do it, but I am saying in his current guise he is totally unsuited to English Football. It would be like putting Morientes on the wing.

Conclusion-buy Pennant. BTW I still haven't given up on my wild-card of buying Glen Johnson and putting him right-mid. That's what he actually is in reality anyhow and the idea of buying a failed full-back off the special one and converting him into a top-class midfieder does appeal to my sense of mischief.
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Postby 48-1119859832 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:11 pm

Pennant is probably the best purchase for us. He'll be cheaper than SWP & Joaquin, he's experienced in English football, he's young and he has a great crossing ability, which should give Moro 'n' Crouch much needed service. He is also very creative which would suit us nicely, as I said I can't see SWP coming here, if he does it would be for some ridiculous fee of over £20million 'n' Joaquin is a gamble as he could be a hot or miss 'n' cost a lot.
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Postby mighty mo » Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:15 pm

jermaine penant is numberone in the opta stats for crossers something our wingers at the moment are lacking from,if birmingham go down we should be able to get him on the cheap
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Postby drummerphil » Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:19 pm

I would have SWP in my team no problem.To be honest i look at Nando,Cisse and Garcia to a point and i feel we need to leave anymore players from the continent alone for now.If we have to buy from abroad i'm convinced players from Germany,Holland and Scandinavia can adapt over here far better....
SWP has proved himself in the premiership but anything over 10 million is way too much in my opinion......
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Postby Gareth G » Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:12 pm

drummerphil wrote:I would have SWP in my team no problem.To be honest i look at Nando,Cisse and Garcia to a point and i feel we need to leave anymore players from the continent alone for now.If we have to buy from abroad i'm convinced players from Germany,Holland and Scandinavia can adapt over here far better....
SWP has proved himself in the premiership but anything over 10 million is way too much in my opinion......

Spot on mate, I'd agree with that fully.
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