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[Leonmc0708]

we could get someone better then him imo, he's overated. He would also cost a lot of money. Id rather pennant or joaquin to be honest.

Crazy statement as far as I am concerned.

Pennant not as good and Joaquin not proven in the English league.

[Pakat]

I'd rather buy Pennant because he has excellent crosses and is a good dribbler. Also, he will be worth less.

[Ace Ventura]

There are alot of people on here talking about SWP as if he is a poor limited player. He is not.
He might not be as skillful as Pennant, but he would score alot of goals in most sides.
He will not be coming to Liverpool due to how much Chelsea paid for him, but there is no doubt in my mind, if he had come in the summer we would of had a fine player who would of strengthened our side a great deal.

[nufclee]

You lot should have bought Solano

[tubby]

i would prefer joaquin

No way!!!! I agree Joaquin is a good player but SWP is English, brought up in England meaning he can play the aggressiv style and not have to adjust like Garcia and Alonso did. Everyone seems to have forgotten how many quailty goals SWP scored in his last season for City including one for England. He is the natural successor to David Beckham and may be expensive but he is one of the best wingers in the league and if we were going to fork out 11 or 12 Million for Simao then i dont see an extra 5 or 6 Mil on top for securing one of the best English talents a big deal. Rafa will be coming into a lot of money in the summer with amix of selling players, transfer kitty, adida money, new sponsors and investors and im sure hes going to try get SWP.

[tubby]

Joaquin is skillfull but not that physicial, he is a lot like Riquelme in the way he plays and he would struggle to adjust to the pace of the Premiership like Morientes has.

[115-1073096938]

i would prefer joaquin

No way!!!! I agree Joaquin is a good player but SWP is English, brought up in England meaning he can play the aggressiv style and not have to adjust like Garcia and Alonso did. Everyone seems to have forgotten how many quailty goals SWP scored in his last season for City including one for England. He is the natural successor to David Beckham and may be expensive but he is one of the best wingers in the league and if we were going to fork out 11 or 12 Million for Simao then i dont see an extra 5 or 6 Mil on top for securing one of the best English talents a big deal. Rafa will be coming into a lot of money in the summer with amix of selling players, transfer kitty, adida money, new sponsors and investors and im sure hes going to try get SWP.

[115-1073096938]

Joaquin is skillfull but not that physicial, he is a lot like Riquelme in the way he plays and he would struggle to adjust to the pace of the Premiership like Morientes has.

Clearly you've never seen Joaquin play.

I'd strongly advise you to watch the Spain vs England friendly (last year was it?) and explain to me how he was by a mile the best player on the pitch in a physical match.

You are completely clueless, what can you expect from a glory hunting armchair fan though...

[115-1073096938]

How funny are some people... Wright-(overated)Phillips over Joaquin.

[GunGod]

The RM debate again huh.

I think Rafa made a mistake (who doesn't) when he didn't sign Figo for 2m. True, it's hard to do business with Madrid which changes its tune now and then. But probably Figo on the right for this season would have already guaranteed us the runners-up spot. (Figo couldn't have possibly done worse than Cisse and Gerrard would have gotten us more goals in the middle). I'm sure the prize money difference between 2nd and 3rd more than makes up for 2m. Anyway, its all easy to say in hindsight.

Chelsea would rather let SWP go on loan (and subsequently go for 4-6m) to an overseas club (or mid-table clubs like Aston, Boro etc) then to let us have him for 15m. They don't need the money. They won't want us to compete with them. I would go as far as saying if they had no other choice, they would rather sell him to Man U than us! Because Mourinho knows that they are subtle (or not so subtle) competition between him and Rafa as to who's the better coach and that aside, Chelsea can't seem to break us down because our style of play seems to be the antidote to their systematic play. i.e. Man U attacks and attacks and falls prey to Chelsea's counter attacks but we have even more patience than Chelsea - we wait for them to attack before we counter attack. 

For RMs on the cheap I think Brett Emerton is quite good if given the right opportunities.

[Gareth G]

Yes Stu, I'd rather have Wright - Phillips over Joaquin based on the fact he's proven in the Premiership and is consistant. Joaquin is in no doubt a better player but he's either play's a blinder or has a terrible game, he sway's in and out of games too much and would cost us more than Wright - Phillips probably.

In regard's to Wright - Phillips and Pennant, I think he is better by a good bit and the fact he's consistantly in the England squad suggest's that too.

[115-1073096938]

Yes Stu, I'd rather have Wright - Phillips over Joaquin based on the fact he's proven in the Premiership and is consistant. Joaquin is in no doubt a better player but he's either play's a blinder or has a terrible game, he sway's in and out of games too much and would cost us more than Wright - Phillips probably.

In regard's to Wright - Phillips and Pennant, I think he is better by a good bit and the fact he's consistantly in the England squad suggest's that too.

Right, so because Sven thinks he's better that means he is?

So Dean Ashton's not better than Peter Crouch or Bent or even Vassell?

Gareth Barry isn't good enough to get in the england squad? Stewart Downing isn't good enough to get in the england squad?

Barton isn't?

Pennant isn't?

Parker isn't?

Ledley King is the best option in the holding midfield role?

Lampard's better than Gerrard?

Beckham should be england captain above Gerrard or Terry?

Get real.

Using Sven Goran-Eriksson's opinion to back yours up doesn't wash. Also "proven in the premiership"? Whats that got to do with anything? Are you telling me you'd rather have Anelka than Zidane at his best or Ronaldinho? off lad.

Its about ability and quality. If you don't have the ability to perform at this level, you won't. Its that simple.

Also like i said in another post, doesn't the fact that Mourinho favours two left wingers and a centre mid ahead of Wright-Phillips tell you something? He's the only right winger Chelsea possess and he can't get a game.

As for him being better than Pennant don't make me laugh. Pennant's got a touch, better acceleration, has more skill, is far far far better crosser of the ball and has more ability in his little toe.

Wright-Phillips is a good player. Joaquin is a world class one. Theres absoloutely no contest.

[48-1119859832]

I'd happily take Shaun Wright-Phillips if the fee was right. Chelsea paid £21million for a winger who has achieved nothing in his career 'n' I can't see Chelsea selling him to us or selling him for under what they bought him for. I do like Shaun Wright-Phillips tho, he holds his ground makes good runs, has a good cross of the ball and has a cracking right foot, he is also a very consistant player who would no doubt offer us a lot.

Joaquin is a good player and techincally brilliant but he too has achieved next to nothing in his career 'n' yet would cost us either the same amount Wright-Phillips does or even more than what Wright-Phillips does. He's a good winger but has his off days 'n' of course there's him having the task of settling in the Premiership as well, you never know he could just be the next Moro.

Pennant is probably my favourite winger and despite his 'bad boy' reputation he is a great footballer and I'm pretty sure if we came in with a £8million pound offer Birmingham would have little hesistation in accepting our bid. Pennant is a great crosser of the ball, he's strong on his feet, quick on 'n' off the ball, scores the odd goal 'n' helps makes chances, he would be my choice to sign in the summer.

[Gareth G]

Stu you're so full of f*cking sh*t man! Why can't you take other people's opinion's? Because you're obsessed with your own, you continuelly try to force your opinion on everyone and talk down to all on this board, if you don't think it's right then it's wrong. Get a f*cking life you self obsessed .

I also never once said that it was a fact he was better than Pennant as he was in the England squad, read it again muppet. However, if Pennant had all this ability and is so much better don't you think he would at least be in the squad?

Also like i said in another post, doesn't the fact that Mourinho favours two left wingers and a centre mid ahead of Wright-Phillips tell you something? He's the only right winger Chelsea possess and he can't get a game.

You just give me a load of sh*t because you thought I based my opinion on what Sven think's, could you just tell me why the f*ck it make's a difference what Mourinho think's then?

You're a f*cking idiot with a little too much knowledge for your own good, learn how to be nice you sour f*ck.

[48-1119859832]

This board certainly doesn't lack entertainment.