I take my life in my hands - Should rafa go?

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I take my life in my hands - Should rafa go!

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Postby lakes10 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:00 am

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s@int wrote:Rafa told he has to win more trophies
By IVAN SPECK

Rafael Benitez was last night warned that failure will not be tolerated as Liverpool flew back from Istanbul with their Champions League hopes hanging by a thread.

Only maximum points from their last three fixtures will ensure qualification from the group stages for a side which has reached the final in two of the past three seasons.

Liverpool co-owner Tom Hicks insisted that he and George Gillett expect a return in trophies sooner rather than later after making £40million available to Benitez to invest in new players this summer.

Hicks said: "Yes, the squad is good enough to win things. It should be winning things. If it doesn't, we'll have to look at the circumstances at the end of the year and understand what happened.

"I don't want to predict failure, I want to predict success but we've got our work cut out in the Champions League. If we didn't qualify, it would be terribly disappointing, but I'm an optimist and I think that we're going to win our next two games at home and then we will have a big match in Marseille."

Hicks acknowledged that Premier League success is the priority for Liverpool fans this season. It was also the driving force behind the summer spending which brought in Fernando Torres, Ryan Babel, Andriy Voronin and Yossi Benayoun.

While Liverpool's owners reaffirmed that they are committed to Benitez, the club's best start to a Premiership season for five years must be maintained if they are not to become restless.

Hicks added: "I can tell from just talking to the fans that because they haven't won the Premiership in 17 years, they want to win the Prem.

"We won the Champions League in 2005 and should have won it last season, but I know their passions really are that they want to win the Premiership.

"One of the reasons we made the signings we did in the summer was to create the depth we now have, which Rafa explained to George and me is how you win the Premiership.

"I totally support Rafa. He doesn't need guidance. Nobody wants to win more than Rafa, but I know when we committed the resources for signings in the summer that the idea was to have a team that could compete for the Premiership. We haven't had the depth in previous years for that.

"I don't believe that Rafa wants to win the Champions League more than the Premiership. I know Rafa. He wants to win the Premiership badly, and we haven't lost yet.

"If we beat Arsenal on Sunday we're only three points behind, so we're doing okay.

"The Champions League revenue for reaching the knockout stage is something we'd like to have, no question about it. You can't assume you're going to go there every year, as that doesn't make sense, but we've got great players and we just need to let them play.

"Not having Torres obviously hurt on Wednesday. Hopefully he'll be healthy on Sunday."

Hicks also confirmed that the financing package for Liverpool's new £400m ground should be completed within the next month.

The stadium is due for completion in time for the 2011/12 season and is promised to be more fan-friendly than Anfield.

Hicks said: 'Our initial approval will be for a 60,000 capacity but it will be designed to hold more. We intend to get further approvals to increase it in size.

"Our fans are wonderful. We don't give them great service and they are still wonderful. Over time, as we get the new stadium, we will be able to give them services they haven't had before, amenities they haven't had before, comforts they have never had before, ease of getting tickets they have never had before.

"A much more vibrant internet site, more reliable ability to buy merchandise on the internet, everything. Our fans are there in spite of what we do. We need to do a much better job for our fans and we will."!

Now the team need to follow suit.

Daily mail

Well I might be reading that wrongly, but I reckon that's a fairly stern appraisal by the American owners. Based on that, if I was a betting man, if things don't improve significantly by the end of the season, I think Rafa will be gone.

yep you are right, and its what i have been saying, Things are not the same anymore, there is a lot of money that has been put into this club.
Like any owners of a business if thing are not going right you get a new manager.
No its not the Liverpool way but that was old Liverpool, This is new Liverpool with American money.

top 2 in the prem and a fa cup with save Rafa.Thats if he is given that much time, i still think he has only a few games to show he can do it and going by how we have over the next few weeks he is lucky.
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Postby Ciggy » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:06 am

He will be the new whipping boy in the media now that Jol, Mourhino and Sammy Lee have all been sacked.

Batten down the hatches boys its going to get nasty its started already.
There is no-one anywhere in the world at any stage who is any bigger or any better than this football club.

Kenny Dalglish 1/2/2011

REST IN PEACE PHIL, YOU WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.
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Postby lakes10 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:10 am

Ciggy wrote:He will be the new whipping boy in the media now that Jol, Mourhino and Sammy Lee have all been sacked.

Batten down the hatches boys its going to get nasty its started already.

Ciggy its already started, I have just put the radio on and one of the first things i heard on radio 5 was "Time running out for Rafael Benitez "
Next you will have The S*N on his back.
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Postby Ciggy » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:18 am

lakes10 wrote:Ciggy its already started, I have just put the radio on and one of the first things i heard on radio 5 was "Time running out for Rafael Benitez "
Next you will have The S*N on his back.

Yes I know Talksport have been having a debate this morning Rafa next manager to get the boot.

Rafa issued deadline, deliever prem or out on your ear manager told = Daily Mirror.

The Guardian= Reds tell Benítez league title is a must.

The Telegraph = Benitez must settle his side.

The Times = Liverpool owners stand by their man
but it came with alarm bells attached.
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Postby lakes10 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:24 am

Ciggy wrote:
lakes10 wrote:Ciggy its already started, I have just put the radio on and one of the first things i heard on radio 5 was "Time running out for Rafael Benitez "
Next you will have The S*N on his back.

Yes I know Talksport have been having a debate this morning Rafa next manager to get the boot.

Rafa issued deadline, deliever prem or out on your ear manager told = Daily Mirror.

The Guardian= Reds tell Benítez league title is a must.

The Telegraph = Benitez must settle his side.

The Times = Liverpool owners stand by their man
but it came with alarm bells attached.

Thats not nice to see, i can take things being said by the red top papers as they are just full of Sh*t but when the Times ,The Guardian and The Telegraph start then you know something is up.
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:27 am

lakes10 wrote:but when the Times ,The Guardian and The Telegraph start then you know something is up.

we don't really them to tell us something is up mate, i would have thought it was obvious that something was up    :D
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:29 am

peewee wrote:why do people keep referring to this as a blip, three years is a hell of a long blip

Three years of losing games and winning nothing.

I agree.

:O  :Oo:
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:31 am

lakes10 wrote:I am sure Rafa got the job as they were looking for someone that could win the Prem in 3 years.

How is Rick PArry by the way ?

You and him still going to the caravan in Wales every oher weekend ?
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Postby lakes10 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:34 am

peewee wrote:
lakes10 wrote:but when the Times ,The Guardian and The Telegraph start then you know something is up.

we don't really them to tell us something is up mate, i would have thought it was obvious that something was up    :D

lol i kinow that, as all of you know i have never Rafa's biggest fan but he has proved me wrong so many times.
If its a big game you just know that with Rafa you have a chance to win it.
But this year too many thing are going wrong and he needs help next to him, but he is so stubborn.
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:34 am

Leonmc0708 wrote:
peewee wrote:why do people keep referring to this as a blip, three years is a hell of a long blip

Three years of losing games and winning nothing.

I agree.

:O  :Oo:

3 years of the same mistake leon, now don't be facetious   :D
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Postby lakes10 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:36 am

Leonmc0708 wrote:
lakes10 wrote:I am sure Rafa got the job as they were looking for someone that could win the Prem in 3 years.

How is Rick PArry by the way ?

You and him still going to the caravan in Wales every oher weekend ?

he ok mate, i just wish he would not keep me up all night counting his money.




All i was say was that when GH got the boot is was after him saying that he needed 2 more years and the board said they needed results fast.
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:38 am

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Leonmc0708 wrote:
lakes10 wrote:I am sure Rafa got the job as they were looking for someone that could win the Prem in 3 years.

How is Rick PArry by the way ?

You and him still going to the caravan in Wales every oher weekend ?

he ok mate, i just wish he would not keep me up all night counting his money.




All i was say was that when GH got the boot is was after him saying that he needed 2 more years and the board said they needed results fast.

So how are you "SURE" that he was put in place by a board that wanted teh league in three years ?

You are not.
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:38 am

peewee wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:
peewee wrote:why do people keep referring to this as a blip, three years is a hell of a long blip

Three years of losing games and winning nothing.

I agree.

:O  :Oo:

3 years of the same mistake leon, now don't be facetious   :D

I bet that United and Chelsea's boards wish their managers would start making hte mistake of getting into European Cup Finals . . . .
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:43 am

Leonmc0708 wrote:
peewee wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:
peewee wrote:why do people keep referring to this as a blip, three years is a hell of a long blip

Three years of losing games and winning nothing.

I agree.

:O  :Oo:

3 years of the same mistake leon, now don't be facetious   :D

I bet that United and Chelsea's boards wish their managers would start making hte mistake of getting into European Cup Finals . . . .

no mate, they are probably just happy with their league titles.

now you full well what i am talking about, so we can go backwards and forwards all day if you like but its just much better if you let it sink in, i am not asking you to agree with it, just to understand it

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Postby lakes10 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:52 am

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lakes10 wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:
lakes10 wrote:I am sure Rafa got the job as they were looking for someone that could win the Prem in 3 years.

How is Rick PArry by the way ?

You and him still going to the caravan in Wales every oher weekend ?

he ok mate, i just wish he would not keep me up all night counting his money.




All i was say was that when GH got the boot is was after him saying that he needed 2 more years and the board said they needed results fast.

So how are you "SURE" that he was put in place by a board that wanted teh league in three years ?

You are not.

well heres just one thing that was said at the time.

Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry said: "The board decided change was necessary if we were to realistically challenge for the title next season."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/3734773.stm
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