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[zarababe]

Gawd .. I'm over the moon, this man has systematically presided over Liverpool Football Club remaining in the dark ages... engineered the Yanks takeover, which has ironically now come back to bite him on the backside, placing the club in such turmoil and  led to our manager having to seek support outside the boardroom, amongst the heart oif this club - its supporters to battle to survive and expose the sacrilege going on inside the walls of this institution.

Parrys' greatest dis-service to this club - rejecting DIC and letting these in .. how he slept and walked the hallow halls, I'll never know

Good Riddance to a pile of pooh

[Sabre]

BTW congratulations on again choosing to attack me in a childish and hurtfull manner instead of answering any of my questions, you're almost as good at that as GYBS or your hero and idol Lando.

I haven't even started with you, and you'll be begging for Lando's return after a couple of weeks matey, so arm yourself with patience, take  the good advice they give you, chill down and let it pass. That is, shut up and listen, while I give my opinion to the board about the excuse of a posts you write, or pass my posts, you don't have much more options than that really.

Alternatively you can start making non insulting criticism to the manager and the fans who support him and players, forget the Rafalites, forget stupid assumptions of support based on nationality. But you have to prove yet you're able to do that.


The third alternative is getting wound up when I speak of the content of your posts without name calling, but that will lead to your ban, and I can live with that. So you see, the only option you really have is the advice they've given you, or wise up.



Now, let's continue with the content full of wittery of your posts:

It's been a problem according to Rafa, funny how you guys believe all rumours that support Rafa but attack anybody who believes rumours against Rafa. It's called double standards Sabre

According to Rafa, and previous to Rafa, that point has been sufficiently documented in this thread. Wrong.

The difference when we defend Rafa systematically and say he loves the club, is that we base it on past actions and those actions are not a joke. For instance, saying no to Real Madrid his club of origin, is a proof of loyalty to Liverpool. I don't know if you know many people who say no to Real Madrid, but actually it's not easy to find them. I could put several examples like this

You, instead, base your opinion to say Parry's main interest in the club, with the evidence that he was nice to you in a protocolary act.

That, besides double standards, is a joke. I thought that you were simply negative with  things, because you always focused on the negative, but I now have learned you're able to say nice words about someone if we're not talking about Rafa. Your posts systematically side with the opposing side to Rafa, no matter if the opposing side is Mourinho, Ferguson, Parry or the F.A. To counter that claim of mine, you can bring me a counter example post of yours, if you find one, I'll request a card from the mods for me, just for fun. But you can't find that. Can you?

So what are you going to do Heimdall, shut up? or play the discussion game in which sometimes an external reader won't accept what you say? Are you big enough to discuss? Are you good enough for that?



P.S. You can ask help to your mateys perhaps with their help you'll find more solid reasons to defend Parry.

[account deleted by request]

...and just when I'd want the mods to maybe help me out they all fecking turn on me as well with even more childish taunts.

I might have more sympathy, mate, if you weren't giving as good as you get.  You don't call people names or tell them where to go often, I'll grant you, but here you're spouting off about how everyone who's glad to see the back of Parry is 'arrogant', 'ignorant', blighted by 'double standards' or out of touch with 'how the world works' and that tends to strike a nerve.

When you read some of the posts on here you can certainly understand the "ARROGANT" comment

[Sabre]

On second thought Heimdall, I might not discuss in two or three days as today's game has been too awful and that really gets into my skin. Feel free to rant if you wish in the mean time.

[account deleted by request]

By CHRIS BASCOMBE, 28/02/2009

DIRK KUYT has revealed he was told to put contract talks on hold until AFTER Rafa Benitez’s future is resolved.

The Dutchman says the request came from Benitez himself, who is embroiled in epic talks with Liverpool’s American owners.


There were suggestions Kuyt had been frustrated by the lack of movement from the club and some even claimed he would not sign unless Rafa remains as manager.


But Kuyt dismissed those rumours, making it clear he will willingly open negotiations when the club approach him.


Contract
The attacker explained: “Rafa told me he wanted to give me a new contract but he wanted to sort out his own contract first and then we’ll see what’s happening.


“I’ve just been trying to focus on the games and not worry too much. Because I’m happy at Liverpool and I enjoy it, I want to stay. I don’t know if my future is linked to the manager, because that depends on what the club wants.


“If the club want to give me a new contract, I’m more than happy to talk about it.


“I’ve never been thinking about whether the manager would go or not. Of course, you want to know who the manager is but I’ve said I want to stay at Liverpool.”

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Anyone think that is in the BEST INTERESTS OF LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB ?

Telling a player not to sign a new contract UNTIL AFTER HIS FUTURE IS SETTLED 

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By CHRIS BASCOMBE, 28/02/2009

DIRK KUYT has revealed he was told to put contract talks on hold until AFTER Rafa Benitez’s future is resolved.

The Dutchman says the request came from Benitez himself, who is embroiled in epic talks with Liverpool’s American owners.


There were suggestions Kuyt had been frustrated by the lack of movement from the club and some even claimed he would not sign unless Rafa remains as manager.


But Kuyt dismissed those rumours, making it clear he will willingly open negotiations when the club approach him.


Contract
The attacker explained: “Rafa told me he wanted to give me a new contract but he wanted to sort out his own contract first and then we’ll see what’s happening.


“I’ve just been trying to focus on the games and not worry too much. Because I’m happy at Liverpool and I enjoy it, I want to stay. I don’t know if my future is linked to the manager, because that depends on what the club wants.


“If the club want to give me a new contract, I’m more than happy to talk about it.


“I’ve never been thinking about whether the manager would go or not. Of course, you want to know who the manager is but I’ve said I want to stay at Liverpool.”

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Anyone think that is in the BEST INTERESTS OF LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB ?

Telling a player not to sign a new contract UNTIL AFTER HIS FUTURE IS SETTLED 

its clear where rafas priorities lie mate, and thats with himself, on a bright note it looks like when rafa goes then kuyt will be going with him

[tonyeh]

If that's true, it's a disgrace.

I find myself shaking my head more and more at Benitez' these days...

[aCe']

By CHRIS BASCOMBE, 28/02/2009

DIRK KUYT has revealed he was told to put contract talks on hold until AFTER Rafa Benitez’s future is resolved.

The Dutchman says the request came from Benitez himself, who is embroiled in epic talks with Liverpool’s American owners.


There were suggestions Kuyt had been frustrated by the lack of movement from the club and some even claimed he would not sign unless Rafa remains as manager.


But Kuyt dismissed those rumours, making it clear he will willingly open negotiations when the club approach him.


Contract
The attacker explained: “Rafa told me he wanted to give me a new contract but he wanted to sort out his own contract first and then we’ll see what’s happening.


“I’ve just been trying to focus on the games and not worry too much. Because I’m happy at Liverpool and I enjoy it, I want to stay. I don’t know if my future is linked to the manager, because that depends on what the club wants.


“If the club want to give me a new contract, I’m more than happy to talk about it.


“I’ve never been thinking about whether the manager would go or not. Of course, you want to know who the manager is but I’ve said I want to stay at Liverpool.”

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Anyone think that is in the BEST INTERESTS OF LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB ?

Telling a player not to sign a new contract UNTIL AFTER HIS FUTURE IS SETTLED 

saint mate that deserves a thread of its own...

i can think of a title or two but i dont think many would be happy about them....



nice going putting it in this thread though should turn some heads 360 degrees you'd think...

[bigmick]

Contract
The attacker explained: “Rafa told me he wanted to give me a new contract but he wanted to sort out his own contract first and then we’ll see what’s happening.


“I’ve just been trying to focus on the games and not worry too much. Because I’m happy at Liverpool and I enjoy it, I want to stay. I don’t know if my future is linked to the manager, because that depends on what the club wants.


“If the club want to give me a new contract, I’m more than happy to talk about it.


“I’ve never been thinking about whether the manager would go or not. Of course, you want to know who the manager is but I’ve said I want to stay at Liverpool.”

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Anyone think that is in the BEST INTERESTS OF LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB ?

Telling a player not to sign a new contract UNTIL AFTER HIS FUTURE IS SETTLED 

Unreal really. I'm at a loss at what to say to be perfectly honest. I won't say anything, I'll let others defend this and we'll see how it goes.

On the "best interests of the club" thing, does anybody now think that selling Robbie keane without a viable replacement was in the "best interests of the club". We've got Torres injured and Gerrard looking dodgy too (who would have thought it?). I must go back into those threads around the time of Keane being sold and check, but I'm sure one or two people predicted we might find ourselves in this situation.

So if you were uneasy about the sale and none replacement, was it clairvoyancy or common sense?

[aCe']

By CHRIS BASCOMBE, 28/02/2009

DIRK KUYT has revealed he was told to put contract talks on hold until AFTER Rafa Benitez’s future is resolved.

The Dutchman says the request came from Benitez himself, who is embroiled in epic talks with Liverpool’s American owners.


There were suggestions Kuyt had been frustrated by the lack of movement from the club and some even claimed he would not sign unless Rafa remains as manager.


But Kuyt dismissed those rumours, making it clear he will willingly open negotiations when the club approach him.


Contract
The attacker explained: “Rafa told me he wanted to give me a new contract but he wanted to sort out his own contract first and then we’ll see what’s happening.


“I’ve just been trying to focus on the games and not worry too much. Because I’m happy at Liverpool and I enjoy it, I want to stay. I don’t know if my future is linked to the manager, because that depends on what the club wants.


“If the club want to give me a new contract, I’m more than happy to talk about it.


“I’ve never been thinking about whether the manager would go or not. Of course, you want to know who the manager is but I’ve said I want to stay at Liverpool.”

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Anyone think that is in the BEST INTERESTS OF LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB ?

Telling a player not to sign a new contract UNTIL AFTER HIS FUTURE IS SETTLED 

its clear where rafas priorities lie mate, and thats with himself, on a bright note it looks like when rafa goes then kuyt will be going with him

yep... whats the saying again... kill two birds with one stone...

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seems like you are not the only one who can leak things to the press rafa, and the funny think is its old dirky boy who has lost faith in you and gone behind your back   


i agree that this should have its own thread s@int and we can focus on how rafa does things for rafa and not for LFC, no doubt some will have blamed parry for lack of contract talks

[bigmick]

I agree with the poster who thinks this deserves a thread on it's own. Particularly in view of the fact we are putting Rafa in sole charge of transfer policy, presumeably new contracts for players etc comes under that. Either Kuyt is lying, he is being misquoted, he misunderstood what Rafa meant, or this is a scandalous, truly scandalous situation.

I'll tell you why. We all know Rafa thinks very highly of Kuyt and rates him very highly. If, for instance, Rafa did leave at the end of the season and went to manage another team, would it be cheaper or more expensive to sign Kuyt FOR HIS NEW TEAM if he had signed a new controact, or if he had only one year to run? If this is what the manager told Kuyt, I can think of no other sensible reason for his advice to his striker. Unless he was looking to sign him for his new team, what other possible explanation could there be? Even if Rafa was fecking off and didn't intend signing Kuyt for his new team, the prudent thing to do (for the club) would be to extend his contract. 

This right here is a ticking timebomb of a quote. Absolutely unbelieveable.

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The worrying thing is we have Arbelo, Kuyt, Hyypia, Insua and Agger all awaiting new contracts. Should we run the risk of losing them for peanuts because Rafa doesn't want them to sign until HIS FUTURE is sorted.

[Sabre]

So, let's see if I get this.

If Rafa gives a contract to kuyt of 4 years now, because it's obvious he trusts him, besides being told that's a bad decission, what would happen if another manager came?

Yes, you're right, the new manager would have a player with a 4 year contract and he may not like the player. And the same guys that are in disbelief now would complain about Rafa's deadwood to explain why the new manager is 15 points away of Manchester. Oh yes, I can foresee answers too.

Now, anyone who wants to notice this is an article from Bascombe, I don't know him well, but people who go to the stadium say he's a cúnt. In articles, you select a few quotes, you make introductions to those quotes, and normally you want to imply an idea. Often the journos get away with it.

But if you analyse the facts, those are clear for anyone who wants to see them. Rafa obviously rates Kuyt, as people has said a lot of times they have oral sex together . Rafa probably has a long talk with a player he rates, and tells him perhaps the best thing is to wait.

The player, doesn't go mad about that, and he's ready to play under the manager that has trusted him, and without him.

So excuse me, but this is the best for the club. If Rafa continues, he'll give Kuyt another contract. If Rafa doesn't continue the new manager will decide. We're not talking here about Gerrard's contract are we.

In a nutshell I'd love that someone explained me how it's a good idea to give Kuyt a long contract if we don't know Rafa will stay or what the new manager thinks of Kuyt. If the player is ready to stay no matter what, then this situation is ideal for the club's interest.

I don't know eh? Perhaps we'd be better off if Mou came, and we had to pay a lot of money to Kuyt for breaking his contract because Mou doesn't want him. In order to help our debt a bit more. More incredible things have been defended in newkit.

[aCe']

new thread saint... new thread before the mods start merging and locking threads