Liverpool FC Forum

[god_bless_john_houlding]

Worst case scenario is that he sits tight until January, then buys himself out of his own contract.

We have the scum by the goolies and they know it.

Worst case scenario is we buy him at all. Not good enough for United means he's not good enough for Liverpool.

[RedBlood]

Don't really need strengthening at the left back spot, and Heinze's a bit old for my liking. Plus, he's played for the Mancs. I suppose one might say that Heinze's "bean" done really.

I think a top left back is a must considering the best wingers in the EPL play down the right. Riise cant defend Aurelio is more of a wing back and spends half his time injured and Arberloa isnt a left back.Heinze's definately the class of player we  need there.

totally agree mate

would love us to sign him

[maypaxvobiscum]

Players can always get out of their contract cos contracts don't mean jack anymore, if a player wants to move then they can if they kick up enough of a fuss and take it to court.

Their clubs can also refuse to sell them and allow them to sweat on the bench until their contracts are finished. Players hold a majority of the cards when dealing with their careers. On the flipside their club can make it equally difficult for them to leave.

How long does Heinze have on his current MU contract?

2 yrs left

[Leonmc0708]

Worst case scenario is that he sits tight until January, then buys himself out of his own contract.

We have the scum by the goolies and they know it.

Worst case scenario is we buy him at all. Not good enough for United means he's not good enough for Liverpool.

I have tried to ignore you cus I am sure you are a WUM but you are really getting on my ti.ts now.

How can he be not good enough ?

Argentine 1st choice defender, Rafa rates him and Ferguson is seeing his @rse totalyl cus he knows full well he is a top quality player and he will without doubt strangthen our team.

So Rafa, Fergie and the Argentina coach are ALL WRONG ?

Get a clue lad.

[Roger Red Hat]

Worst case scenario is that he sits tight until January, then buys himself out of his own contract.

We have the scum by the goolies and they know it.

Worst case scenario is we buy him at all. Not good enough for United means he's not good enough for Liverpool.

I have tried to ignore you cus I am sure you are a WUM but you are really getting on my ti.ts now.

How can he be not good enough ?

Argentine 1st choice defender, Rafa rates him and Ferguson is seeing his @rse totalyl cus he knows full well he is a top quality player and he will without doubt strangthen our team.

So Rafa, Fergie and the Argentina coach are ALL WRONG ?

Get a clue lad.

very good point very well made leon - 

[destro]

Mixed feelings with the Man U fans over this, some are gutted that there is a possibility he could leave them ( Fans player of the season in his first year ), others however seem to be relieved he is going and have done nothing but slag him off, no pace ,commits to many fouls, lack of form, poor displays in the C.L etc,etc.

Now in my opinion most of what the second set of fans are saying could be a knee jerk a natural reaction towards one of their players maybe leaving to join their fiercest rivals (remember the Gerrard to Chelsea saga ? )

Some say that Evras performances,especially last season mean they will not miss him and thats the reason why he wants to leave.

To me that says he isn't  prepared to stay there and try to win his place back, so IF he join Liverpool is he expecting to play every game ?

Ferguson may well rate him highly but he is still prepared to let him go, just not to Liverpool, but that stupid drunken fool would probably feel the same if it was Fletcher, is it down to the quality of the player or is it just because he is a soft tw@t ? , imagine if Leeds had behaved so childish when they sold him Cantona.

I have already said what i think about him signing for Liverpool and despite how high his Country, Ferguson or Rafa rates him 6.8 million ( Disclaimer) for a 29 year old just doesn't excite me as a signing, there has got to be as good if not better and younger out there for that  kind of money ?

[Paul C]

Worst case scenario is that he sits tight until January, then buys himself out of his own contract.

We have the scum by the goolies and they know it.

Worst case scenario is we buy him at all. Not good enough for United means he's not good enough for Liverpool.

I have tried to ignore you cus I am sure you are a WUM but you are really getting on my ti.ts now.

How can he be not good enough ?

Argentine 1st choice defender, Rafa rates him and Ferguson is seeing his @rse totalyl cus he knows full well he is a top quality player and he will without doubt strangthen our team.

So Rafa, Fergie and the Argentina coach are ALL WRONG ?

Get a clue lad.

very good point very well made leon - 

Agreed, Heinze is a quality player, anyone else that doesn't think he'd improve our squad is a muppet 

[Emerald Red]

Worst case scenario is that he sits tight until January, then buys himself out of his own contract.

We have the scum by the goolies and they know it.

Worst case scenario is we buy him at all. Not good enough for United means he's not good enough for Liverpool.

Wouldn't be the first time Fergie has wanted rid of one of his better players. Rudd, Beckham and Stam ring a bell? Were they not good enough either?

[god_bless_john_houlding]

Worst case scenario is that he sits tight until January, then buys himself out of his own contract.

We have the scum by the goolies and they know it.

Worst case scenario is we buy him at all. Not good enough for United means he's not good enough for Liverpool.

I have tried to ignore you cus I am sure you are a WUM but you are really getting on my ti.ts now.

How can he be not good enough ?

Argentine 1st choice defender, Rafa rates him and Ferguson is seeing his @rse totalyl cus he knows full well he is a top quality player and he will without doubt strangthen our team.

So Rafa, Fergie and the Argentina coach are ALL WRONG ?

Get a clue lad.

Well yeah they can all be wrong pal. I'll give you a clue by the name of Jaun Sebsatian Veron. Aregetina regluar, United went out and bought him and Benitez wanted him during his time at Valencia. So yeah people can be wrong.

The reason he's not good enough for Liverpool is because he is sh!t. I wouldn't swap Riise for him and he certainly wouldn't get ahead of Agger/Carra at centre half. Hyypia can cover for those 2 and we have more than enough options at left back if Riise is out. He's going to be the wrong side of 30 within the next 2 years, so lets go out and buy a fella who is a waste of space, good on you pal.

[god_bless_john_houlding]

Worst case scenario is that he sits tight until January, then buys himself out of his own contract.

We have the scum by the goolies and they know it.

Worst case scenario is we buy him at all. Not good enough for United means he's not good enough for Liverpool.

Wouldn't be the first time Fergie has wanted rid of one of his better players. Rudd, Beckham and Stam ring a bell? Were they not good enough either?

If you're going to get 23 million for Beckham you would snap their hand off because the fella isn't up to that level. Van Nistlerooy wanted to leave and they had a replacement in Saha, no where near as good Van Nistlerooy but again money talks and 17 million for him was a good deal, since he was the wrong side of 30. Again for Stam, money talked. 15/16 million for a centre half is pretty good going, United aren't going to turn down that when they know if they didn't take it they would of ended up selling him for 4/5 million a few years later. Just like Arsenal have had to do with Henry, 16 million for a world class player. So Fergie has allowed his world stars to go for big money, do you think he'd allow, what you lot seem to class as a "world star" for 6 million? If Fergie rates him as highly as you lot seem to, he's not going to let him for anything under 10 million.

[chrisrafman]

as far as im concerned heinze is a quality player and has proved himself in the premier league. by demanding a move from them to us i belive he will be a hero especially when he waltzes into old trafford in our colours and kicking the out of ronald(intentioally spelled that way to resemble the mcdonalds clown) lets gladly say he will never wear a manc shirt again as the d*ckheads wont let his demands to be allowed to join us live. in a nutshell heinze will be class and we will stick it to the scum also. im 100% behind signing him

[god_bless_john_houlding]

as far as im concerned heinze is a quality player and has proved himself in the premier league. by demanding a move from them to us i belive he will be a hero especially when he waltzes into old trafford in our colours and kicking the out of ronald(intentioally spelled that way to resemble the mcdonalds clown) lets gladly say he will never wear a manc shirt again as the d*ckheads wont let his demands to be allowed to join us live. in a nutshell heinze will be class and we will stick it to the scum also. im 100% behind signing him

I'm not going to have a go at your opinion of Heinze, everyone is entitled to their opinion, wheter I agree with or not. However I think Heinze waltzing into Old Trafford in Liverpool colours, is a step to far. If he ever got back into Manchester, after joining Liverpool, I'd be surprised. The fella will get death threats and all sorts if he joins Liverpool. Which is another reason I don't wish for us to sign him, they'd be so much agro over him and his family by the United fans, he couldn't perform to the best of his ability.

[red37]

Worst case scenario is that he sits tight until January, then buys himself out of his own contract.

We have the scum by the goolies and they know it.

Worst case scenario is we buy him at all. Not good enough for United means he's not good enough for Liverpool.

I have tried to ignore you cus I am sure you are a WUM but you are really getting on my ti.ts now.

How can he be not good enough ?

Argentine 1st choice defender, Rafa rates him and Ferguson is seeing his @rse totalyl cus he knows full well he is a top quality player and he will without doubt strangthen our team.

So Rafa, Fergie and the Argentina coach are ALL WRONG ?

Get a clue lad.

Well yeah they can all be wrong pal. I'll give you a clue by the name of Jaun Sebsatian Veron. Aregetina regluar, United went out and bought him and Benitez wanted him during his time at Valencia. So yeah people can be wrong.

The reason he's not good enough for Liverpool is because he is sh!t. I wouldn't swap Riise for him and he certainly wouldn't get ahead of Agger/Carra at centre half. Hyypia can cover for those 2 and we have more than enough options at left back if Riise is out. He's going to be the wrong side of 30 within the next 2 years, so lets go out and buy a fella who is a waste of space, good on you pal.

Jamie Carragher will be the 'wrong' side of 30 in six months...as a comparison. Finnan already is. No slouches between that pair.
Heinze is more than welcome at Liverpool for mine. Pushing 7 mill is a tad on the steep side, i admit. But he would add some much needed steel at LB, and is good for a few full competitive seasons yet imo.

[Emerald Red]

Worst case scenario is that he sits tight until January, then buys himself out of his own contract.

We have the scum by the goolies and they know it.

Worst case scenario is we buy him at all. Not good enough for United means he's not good enough for Liverpool.

Wouldn't be the first time Fergie has wanted rid of one of his better players. Rudd, Beckham and Stam ring a bell? Were they not good enough either?

If you're going to get 23 million for Beckham you would snap their hand off because the fella isn't up to that level. Van Nistlerooy wanted to leave and they had a replacement in Saha, no where near as good Van Nistlerooy but again money talks and 17 million for him was a good deal, since he was the wrong side of 30. Again for Stam, money talked. 15/16 million for a centre half is pretty good going, United aren't going to turn down that when they know if they didn't take it they would of ended up selling him for 4/5 million a few years later. Just like Arsenal have had to do with Henry, 16 million for a world class player. So Fergie has allowed his world stars to go for big money, do you think he'd allow, what you lot seem to class as a "world star" for 6 million? If Fergie rates him as highly as you lot seem to, he's not going to let him for anything under 10 million.

No harm, but that's a complete load of rubbish. I know I personally don't rate Beckham as a great player, but his crossing combined with Van Nistelrooy getting on the end was priceless. Add that to the fact that Beckham was making United untold amounts in revenue through his brand name, and you have a player that you just couldn't afford to loose no matter what. Ferguson made a blunder, plane and simple. It took him almost 4 years to recover his losses. United lost their momentum in the league, and they only got that back when Ronaldo hit form for them in the area that they lost out on - down the right in Beckham's possition.

[god_bless_john_houlding]

Worst case scenario is that he sits tight until January, then buys himself out of his own contract.

We have the scum by the goolies and they know it.

Worst case scenario is we buy him at all. Not good enough for United means he's not good enough for Liverpool.

I have tried to ignore you cus I am sure you are a WUM but you are really getting on my ti.ts now.

How can he be not good enough ?

Argentine 1st choice defender, Rafa rates him and Ferguson is seeing his @rse totalyl cus he knows full well he is a top quality player and he will without doubt strangthen our team.

So Rafa, Fergie and the Argentina coach are ALL WRONG ?

Get a clue lad.

Well yeah they can all be wrong pal. I'll give you a clue by the name of Jaun Sebsatian Veron. Aregetina regluar, United went out and bought him and Benitez wanted him during his time at Valencia. So yeah people can be wrong.

The reason he's not good enough for Liverpool is because he is sh!t. I wouldn't swap Riise for him and he certainly wouldn't get ahead of Agger/Carra at centre half. Hyypia can cover for those 2 and we have more than enough options at left back if Riise is out. He's going to be the wrong side of 30 within the next 2 years, so lets go out and buy a fella who is a waste of space, good on you pal.

Jamie Carragher will be the 'wrong' side of 30 in six months...as a comparison. Finnan already is. No slouches between that pair.
Heinze is more than welcome at Liverpool for mine. Pushing 7 mill is a tad on the steep side, i admit. But he would add some much needed steel at LB, and is good for a few full competitive seasons yet imo.

Carra and Finnan may be hitting the wrong side of 30 but they started their Liverpool careers well before that age. 6 million for a 2 year player isn't value for money. We could easily spend that a young talented left back who could replace Riise and we have them for a good 6/7 years like we did with Sami/Finnan. I have no problem siging a young lad for that money, but for a player who will be lucky to get in the side in 2 years, I'm not convinced.

One final point, Heinze is nowhere near the class of Carragher.