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[Leonmc0708]

Jesus Christ !!

Paletta is a 19 yr old snotty nosed kid thrust into the most physical and fast paced league in the World on the otherside of the planet and he is crucisfied.

He is a really talented kid, and when he matures will be the long term replacement for Carra.

Sorry Leon but you've been watching another player, plus he's 21, he can't defend, he's played the cup games and even struggled with Aliadiere, I rest my point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Paletta

The lad isn't even 'promising'   

Got the wrong age, but no need to apologise PAul, its my fault not yours.

We will see with this kid wont we ?

Lets agree to discuss the issue again in two years.

So thats a date for the diary, July 24th 2009.

[ivor_the_injun]

Can't remember which game it was, but one thing that summed Paletta up for me was last season (possibly pre-season), when an opposing attack had just broken down, and we were starting to build an attack from the back. There was a very straightforward ball to him just outside our area (possibly even a simple roll out from the keeper), and as he was facing our own goal, he did that thing of stepping over the ball and turning to let it past himself so he could take it on his right foot and start going forward.

Only thing was, he'd paid absolutely no attention to where he was on the pitch, and it went straight out of play. There wasn't an opposing player within 40 yards of him, and he just gave them a throw in just outside our box.

That was the first time I saw him play, and I've seen nothing since to suggest that he's anything but a donkey with a bit of show-pony in his family.

[Ola Mr Benitez]

He may come good, Defenders do take longer to mature than anu where else (apart from keepers?).  Although I agree with most on here, I have not seen anything to fill me with much confidence.  Whenever I have sen him play he has been tormn apart and seems to give an awful lot of free kicks around the edge of the box, usually coz he's justbeen "done" by an attacking mov.

[Wilhelmsson]

well he won't get any better on the wrong end of an howler against manure or chavski either and if their is a certain way to kill any confident s he has it is to get his own fans on his back in a big game

face it when someone isn't ready they just aren't so no amount of wait will help, and the lad isn't 16 he's 21 and no where near the standard for our reserves

I haven’t advocated playing him against MU or Chelsea, I advocated playing Paletta against mid table teams, this will allow him some playing time, therefore will no doubt help improve him as a player, if he is given a run in the side and he hasn’t shown much potential, then selling him or loaning him out to another club would be well within reason.

Not many players are ready when they first arrive on the scene; some players take a while to bridge the gap between reserve team football and first team football.

Paletta hasn’t been impressive in any match I have seen him participate in, however on the flip side he hasn’t been tried and tested and presented with enough first team opportunities within the first team.

[toadinthehole]

Way too expensve for an old geezer like Heinze...beans means Heinz!!!

[Leonmc0708]

Way too expensve for an old geezer like Heinze...beans means Heinz!!!

Welcome to the forum.

[Paul C]

Jesus Christ !!

Paletta is a 19 yr old snotty nosed kid thrust into the most physical and fast paced league in the World on the otherside of the planet and he is crucisfied.

He is a really talented kid, and when he matures will be the long term replacement for Carra.

Sorry Leon but you've been watching another player, plus he's 21, he can't defend, he's played the cup games and even struggled with Aliadiere, I rest my point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Paletta

The lad isn't even 'promising'   

Got the wrong age, but no need to apologise PAul, its my fault not yours.

We will see with this kid wont we ?

Lets agree to discuss the issue again in two years.

So thats a date for the diary, July 24th 2009.

lmao, good call dude, I'll pencil it in my diary 

[Leonmc0708]

Jesus Christ !!

Paletta is a 19 yr old snotty nosed kid thrust into the most physical and fast paced league in the World on the otherside of the planet and he is crucisfied.

He is a really talented kid, and when he matures will be the long term replacement for Carra.

Sorry Leon but you've been watching another player, plus he's 21, he can't defend, he's played the cup games and even struggled with Aliadiere, I rest my point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Paletta

The lad isn't even 'promising'   

Got the wrong age, but no need to apologise PAul, its my fault not yours.

We will see with this kid wont we ?

Lets agree to discuss the issue again in two years.

So thats a date for the diary, July 24th 2009.

lmao, good call dude, I'll pencil it in my diary 

Nice Swan.

PS did you do an offer on that HDTV thing yet mate ?

[lio]

Paletta, Paletta, Paletta !

Don't some of you have some respect for this thread dedicated to Heinze ??

[LFC2007]

I haven’t advocated playing him against MU or Chelsea, I advocated playing Paletta against mid table teams, this will allow him some playing time, therefore will no doubt help improve him as a player, if he is given a run in the side and he hasn’t shown much potential, then selling him or loaning him out to another club would be well within reason.

I don't think at any stage in the past has he been fully ready to play in a meaningful league game, the risk of playing him in one is too much and one we cannot afford. He just has not been good enough, like many I don't rate the guy and I hate to be all Stuish but at 21 you aren't going to develop ability that miraculously appears overnight after a league game. He will certainly improve at some stage but not enough to warrant a place with us IMO. Ideally he will go on loan to a Spanish club, gain confidence, prove to be a decent player and then be sold for a few quid.

But for this coming season Paletta is not the man I want to be relying on in ANY league game, assuming we are still playing for something throughout the course of it - which I think we will be this season.

[Big Niall]

All that money for a 29 year old full back not good enough for Manure is a poor deal. HOpe we don't get him although I do think that he is a decent player.

Plus I love the bitterness between the two clubs when neither one touches the others players.

[HacksawJimDuggin]

Heinze (29) vs Cheillini (21/22) or Baines (21) - Not denying that Heinze is a good player but surely the Baines and Cheillini are better options for now and for the future?

[Wilhelmsson]

I don't think at any stage in the past has he been fully ready to play in a meaningful league game, the risk of playing him in one is too much and one we cannot afford. He just has not been good enough, like many I don't rate the guy and I hate to be all Stuish but at 21 you aren't going to develop ability that miraculously appears overnight after a league game. He will certainly improve at some stage but not enough to warrant a place with us IMO. Ideally he will go on loan to a Spanish club, gain confidence, prove to be a decent player and then be sold for a few quid.

But for this coming season Paletta is not the man I want to be relying on in ANY league game, assuming we are still playing for something throughout the course of it - which I think we will be this season.

If that is your stance on things and the stance of the majority then perhaps football teams should spend a fortune signing players who are the finished article. To say a player should be up to a certain level at age x and saying a player at such an age isn’t going to improve further is inaccurate.

Paletta might improve drastically over the next few seasons or he could stagnate and end up not being good enough, what’s the harm in finding out? IIRC Carragher wasn’t exactly well thought of in his youth, look at him now; he has developed four folds underneath Benitez and has shown maturity of a seasoned veteran.

There is little problem with giving Paletta getting some first team action this season, the only way a player improves is by being exposed to first team action. He has spent a season in the reserves, it’s about time he was nurtured into the senior squad and given some matches to improve, build on confidence and gain experience.

If he hasn’t improved after a while and still looks below par, then as I have said sell him or loan him out, but I am not losing faith in the player, as he hasn’t been given the platform to improve as a player.

[lio]

The Heinze saga is in boiling stage now it seems. News coming in fast from Macau that rednose got this to say:

"Gabriel Heinze will not be joining Liverpool," he said immediately after his side's 6-0 pre-season win over Chinese League outfit Shenzhen in Macau.

"We are examining some of the statements coming from his agent and when contact was first made with Liverpool.

"We are not happy with the agent's conduct in the matter and we are examining that as well, but it will take a couple of days before we have anything more to say." ... see link

[Wilhelmsson]

Heinze (29) vs Cheillini (21/22) or Baines (21) - Not denying that Heinze is a good player but surely the Baines and Cheillini are better options for now and for the future?

What is Cheillini like as a player? I am not too familiar with him and I like Baines, he seems like a good, young talent who would do well in a team with greater prospects.

Heinze is a safe signing, IMO, you know what you are getting with him and for £6m, there’s little room for discontent IMO, other than the fact he plays for MU, which is swaying my opinion in the ‘no’ category.