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[bigmick]

Think i will say it plainly - Mick shut the f.cuk up - your tiresome same old sarcastic bullsh.it is getting boring as f.uck now .

We know its been a sh.it season we dont need you posting it constantly , this thread is about if we will come 4th not another thread to pull the same sh.it

All of my posts in this thread refer to the question of whether or not we'll finish fourth. My last one talked about whether or not we'll finish above Everton (which we'll need to to finish fourth). I really can't see what your problem is.

Anyway no need to upset yourself, chill out a bit. A cheese sarny normally works for me. Bit of Branston, you can't go wrong.

[Waldo]

Everton have a pretty easy run in as well so they have absolutely made the chase for 4th spot a 5 horse race.

[Benny The Noon]

Think i will say it plainly - Mick shut the f.cuk up - your tiresome same old sarcastic bullsh.it is getting boring as f.uck now .

We know its been a sh.it season we dont need you posting it constantly , this thread is about if we will come 4th not another thread to pull the same sh.it

All of my posts in this thread refer to the question of whether or not we'll finish fourth. My last one talked about whether or not we'll finish above Everton (which we'll need to to finish fourth). I really can't see what your problem is.

Anyway no need to upset yourself, chill out a bit. A cheese sarny normally works for me. Bit of Branston, you can't go wrong.

so why not just ask that question without all the other bullsh.it in it - surprised you missed out birmingham or rbfc for once - your very transparent

[roberto green]

The other teams have dropped points tonight so we may have a chance yet.Come on Reds!!!

[kazza]

Think i will say it plainly - Mick shut the f.cuk up - your tiresome same old sarcastic bullsh.it is getting boring as f.uck now .

We know its been a sh.it season we dont need you posting it constantly , this thread is about if we will come 4th not another thread to pull the same sh.it

All of my posts in this thread refer to the question of whether or not we'll finish fourth. My last one talked about whether or not we'll finish above Everton (which we'll need to to finish fourth). I really can't see what your problem is.

Anyway no need to upset yourself, chill out a bit. A cheese sarny normally works for me. Bit of Branston, you can't go wrong.

so why not just ask that question without all the other bullsh.it in it - surprised you missed out birmingham or rbfc for once - your very transparent

Why take someone who wishes we would lose so he can gloat (the proof is in every posts he makes now) and say "see I was right all along" whenever we lose then goes on self imposed silence when we win seriously (he did the same thing last year). He is obviously trying to wind true supporters up as we stand by the team. Trouble is his posts are filled with half the story repeated so many times that the simple among us swallow it up hook, line and sinker.

Obviously he has insecurity issues and needs constant reassurance bless him 

[andy_g]

mick has insecurity issues and needs constant reassurance. so he posts the stuff he believes knowing full well that he will get instant and pathetic stick from a bunch of narrow minded retards. fecking genius you, kazza.

[kazza]

mick has insecurity issues and needs constant reassurance. so he posts the stuff he believes knowing full well that he will get instant and pathetic stick from a bunch of narrow minded retards. fecking genius you, kazza.

Ahhh! The simple among us have spoken 

[Owzat]

Moving on.................................

THE TORTOISE RACE FOR FOURTH

4. Tottenham P30 PTS 55 (GD +26)
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5. Man City P30 PTS 53 (GD +16)
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6. Liverpool P31 PTS 51 (GD +18)
7. A Villa P30 PTS 51 (GD +17)

Tottenham look in a strong position, but they still have to play all of the other four teams in the top five. They may well win three of their five home games, but they look to have the toughest run-in

RUN-INS

Tottenham (home 57, away 19, total 76, average 9.5)

Home : Chelsea (2nd), Arsenal (3rd), Bolton (14th) , Burnley (18th), Portsmouth (20th)
Away : Man Utd (1st), Man City (5th), Sunderland (13th)

Man City (home 37, away 38, total 75, average 9.5)

Home : Man Utd (1st), Tottenham (4th), A Villa (7th), Birmingham (9th), Wigan, (16th)
Away : Arsenal (3rd), West Ham (17th), Burnley (18th)

Liverpool (home 42, away 46, total 88, average 12.5)

Home : Chelsea (2nd), Fulham (10th), Sunderland (13th), West Ham (17th)
Away : Birmingham (9th), Burnley (18th), Hull (19th)

Aston Villa (home 28, away 60, total 88, average 11.0)

Home : Everton (8th), Birmingham (9th), Blackburn (11th)
Away : Chelsea (2nd), Man City (5th), Bolton (14th), Hull (19th), Portsmouth (20th)

In brackets are the league positions against the opponents, against the team fighting for fourth is the home/away and total of those positions as a rough guide to the difficulty - the higher the numbers, the theoretically easier the run-in. I could throw in the other side of Stanley Park, but seven points to make up is a lot with a modest GD to boot. As Citeh still have to play both spudz and villa then points will be scored by one of the teams involved in each game making it not a lot easier, and with only one game against the sides involved above them

So Liverpool have the easier run-in on paper, but have played a game more than the rest. villa have the next "easiest" run-in on paper, but five away games and some tough home games might make point scoring less easy. spudz have four difficult games, their last win over Arsenal was that 5-1 but that was in the cup. Last spudz win home or away in the Premiership was in 99/00 when they won 2-1 at WHL, IVERSEN and SHERWOOD scoring with only a VIEIRA goal for Arsenal. While Liverpool haven't played that well this season, consider we are still in that fight so whatever you call our form this season, it's still good enough to be in with a shot of fourth in sight of those supposedly having a better season - what does that say...............................?

To put the 'averages' into context, if you were 7th which is as low as any side in the comparison, and you had to play every other side in the table, the average would be 10.5. If you were 4th it would be nearer 11, but the point is that if you wanted to know if the run-in for each side is easier than average or harder, that is the kind of figure that represents normal/average. We've to play sides on average two places below that, spudz and citeh one place above with some tough sides to play.

I wouldn't take anyone else's run-in, not sure even for the extra game. That's not to say we won't botch it up anyway, I've maintained for a while now that we need to win 6-7 games and with Chelsea home and Brum away I'm thinking that will be a little more demanding than it should. Last season our results in the corresponding fixtures were P5 W3 D2 L0 PTS 11 with Brum and Burnley not yet promoted.

[andy_g]

mick has insecurity issues and needs constant reassurance. so he posts the stuff he believes knowing full well that he will get instant and pathetic stick from a bunch of narrow minded retards. fecking genius you, kazza.

Ahhh! The simple among us have spoken 

making schoolyard replies with a laughing smiley really doesn't further your cause, you know.

[The_Rock]

Even under our worst ever season under benitez....the 4th place is still up for grabs.

IMO.....its still in our hands.....with the way the other 3 teams are dropping points (surely spurs will drop points against chelsea, manure & arsenal)...we win all our matches and 4th place is more than possible.

But...........Benitez has to play the right team with the right personnel. Play to win and not play to "not lose".

[lakes10]

Even under our worst ever season under benitez....the 4th place is still up for grabs.

IMO.....its still in our hands.....with the way the other 3 teams are dropping points (surely spurs will drop points against chelsea, manure & arsenal)...we win all our matches and 4th place is more than possible.

But...........Benitez has to play the right team with the right personnel. Play to win and not play to "not lose".

with no big slip ups we can get 69 to 70 points, its going to be close but i still think Spurs and City have a much better chance of getting the 4th spot.
The Man city result did help last night but at the same time i had them down as a draw.

[The_Rock]

Even under our worst ever season under benitez....the 4th place is still up for grabs.

IMO.....its still in our hands.....with the way the other 3 teams are dropping points (surely spurs will drop points against chelsea, manure & arsenal)...we win all our matches and 4th place is more than possible.

But...........Benitez has to play the right team with the right personnel. Play to win and not play to "not lose".

with no big slip ups we can get 69 to 70 points, its going to be close but i still think Spurs and City have a much better chance of getting the 4th spot.
The Man city result did help last night but at the same time i had them down as a draw.

Spurs no chance.......i don't think chelsea will drop any more (so i think 6 wins and 1 loss against chelsea is good enough for 4th spot) points this season......Ditto with arsenal and manure (all of whom i think have to play spurs).

Biggest challengers are man city.......but mancini is a defensive cautious manager like benitez (ie..... he might just screw things up).... haha

[maximus]

1st    Arsenal            88
2nd   Man Utd           87
3rd   Chelsea            85
4th   Liverpool          70
5th   A Villa              67
6th   Tottenham       65
7th   Man City          65
8th   Everton           63

[lakes10]

Even under our worst ever season under benitez....the 4th place is still up for grabs.

IMO.....its still in our hands.....with the way the other 3 teams are dropping points (surely spurs will drop points against chelsea, manure & arsenal)...we win all our matches and 4th place is more than possible.

But...........Benitez has to play the right team with the right personnel. Play to win and not play to "not lose".

with no big slip ups we can get 69 to 70 points, its going to be close but i still think Spurs and City have a much better chance of getting the 4th spot.
The Man city result did help last night but at the same time i had them down as a draw.

Spurs no chance.......i don't think chelsea will drop any more (so i think 6 wins and 1 loss against chelsea is good enough for 4th spot) points this season......Ditto with arsenal and manure (all of whom i think have to play spurs).

Biggest challengers are man city.......but mancini is a defensive cautious manager like benitez (ie..... he might just screw things up).... haha

Sunderland v Tottenham, 3 points

Tottenham v Arsenal,  0 points


Tottenham v Chelsea, 0 points

Man Utd v Tottenham, 0 points


Tottenham v Bolton, 3 points


Man City v Tottenham, 0 points


Burnley v Tottenham, 3 points


ok say they go on this run, they end up with only 63 points


the best we can do is another 21 points that puts us on 72.

Man City



Man City v Wigan, 3 points


Burnley v Man City,  3 points


Man City v Birmingham, 3 points


Man City v Man Utd, 1 point

Arsenal v Man City, 0 points


Man City v Aston Villa, 3 points


Man City v Tottenham, 3 points


West Ham v Man City, 1 point

thats 17 points that puts them on 70 points

so if we win every game from now we can still do it.........will that happen ? i dont think so.

[The_Rock]

Man City



Man City v Wigan, 3 points


Burnley v Man City,  3 points


Man City v Birmingham, 3 points


Man City v Man Utd, 1 point

Arsenal v Man City, 0 points


Man City v Aston Villa, 3 points


Man City v Tottenham, 3 points


West Ham v Man City, 1 point

thats 17 points that puts them on 70 points

so if we win every game from now we can still do it.........will that happen ? i dont think so.

You're giving mancini too much credit....

this is how it should pan out (give or take)... so 6 wins and a loss will do....


Man City



Man City v Wigan, 3 points


Burnley v Man City,  3 points


Man City v Birmingham, 1 point


Man City v Man Utd, 0 point

Arsenal v Man City, 0 points


Man City v Aston Villa, 1 points


Man City v Tottenham, 1 points


West Ham v Man City, 1 point