monkey 20 wrote:aCe' wrote:we have a problem with our wingers... mark gonzales, aurelio, kewell(injuries) , Pennant, L.Garcia even S.Gerrard...
all are either average wingers or have been played out of position because of the simple fact of us lacking quality in that position...
compare Pennant to C.Ronaldo or Hleb or J.Cole...
M.Gonzales to Giggs or Robben or V.Persie
we need to improve the quality of our players.... simple as that !
ace is right, maybe not completely, but still going in the right direction. i would love nothing more than to give these players time to develope and see where that takes us, but if we font sign new players...we will fall behind the mancs and chelski! even arsenal! although i dont think we need to go out and buy a whole new squad. we need a WORLD CLASS striker, as well as WORLD CLASS wingers...simple as that! and the obvious cover for finnan and CM and maybe a CD
Reina
Finnan Carra Agger Riise
Sissoko
A. Lennon Alonso Van der Vaart
Gerrard
Trezeguet
or
Reina
Finnan Carra Agger Riise
Lennon Gerrard Alonso Van der Vaart
Bellamy Toni
also part of the new players in the squad
Kompany
Sissoko(might hav2play) (not new obviously)
Gago (one for the future
Quaresma
Neill
Simao
Hargreaves (will also f*ck the mancs off)
Nuri Sahin (also great player for the future)
Villa - will be too expensive, we're dreaming
with a squad like this, we will be able to challenge for the title...only after we get a squad like this can we leave our team and give them the time they desparately need to gel. even if we have to forget about the title for 1 or 2 years, it'll do us wonders!!!
EddieC wrote:monkey 20 wrote:aCe' wrote:we have a problem with our wingers... mark gonzales, aurelio, kewell(injuries) , Pennant, L.Garcia even S.Gerrard...
all are either average wingers or have been played out of position because of the simple fact of us lacking quality in that position...
compare Pennant to C.Ronaldo or Hleb or J.Cole...
M.Gonzales to Giggs or Robben or V.Persie
we need to improve the quality of our players.... simple as that !
ace is right, maybe not completely, but still going in the right direction. i would love nothing more than to give these players time to develope and see where that takes us, but if we font sign new players...we will fall behind the mancs and chelski! even arsenal! although i dont think we need to go out and buy a whole new squad. we need a WORLD CLASS striker, as well as WORLD CLASS wingers...simple as that! and the obvious cover for finnan and CM and maybe a CD
Reina
Finnan Carra Agger Riise
Sissoko
A. Lennon Alonso Van der Vaart
Gerrard
Trezeguet
or
Reina
Finnan Carra Agger Riise
Lennon Gerrard Alonso Van der Vaart
Bellamy Toni
also part of the new players in the squad
Kompany
Sissoko(might hav2play) (not new obviously)
Gago (one for the future
Quaresma
Neill
Simao
Hargreaves (will also f*ck the mancs off)
Nuri Sahin (also great player for the future)
Villa - will be too expensive, we're dreaming
with a squad like this, we will be able to challenge for the title...only after we get a squad like this can we leave our team and give them the time they desparately need to gel. even if we have to forget about the title for 1 or 2 years, it'll do us wonders!!!
Ok, let's look at this then.
You propose to buy three right wingers (actually four as gago can play down either side), do you really think these players are gonna come here knowing that they'll get 20 games a season if lucky, when they play regular football for their current clubs.
In central defence, what plans would you have for Kompany? Drop Carragher? Or use your three man rotation system again with Agger & Hyypia? Or maybe young vincent is going to be happy to warm the bench, after all it's not like he's getting first team football at the moment is it?
You advocate buying Trezeguet, Villa & Toni. There's no mention of selling Kuyt or Crouch in your plans, so I take it the 6 of them are going to battle it out. Oh well, there are two spaces up for grabs, so I suppose 6 is probably a reasonable amount of strikers to have in the squad.
Finally, I would put money on it that you had never heard of Fernando Gago, Ricardo Quaresma & Nuri Sahin before you played a certain PS2 game called LMA Manager. All three of these players are very good on said game, this does not make them that good in real life. All in all, your post was complete & utter cr@p, I haven't even touched on the amount it would cost to bring in all the players named as I feel it's obvious to everyone that we'll never spend that much money in one go, but just for simple tactical ineptitude, this post deserves to be met with total ridicule.
And anyway, everyone knows we're gonna sign Ronaldinho & Kaka![]()
BarryBelfast wrote:All this excitement about the new takeover has gone to a lot of fans heads..Its understandable,of course.
More money for the club can only be a good thing.Im sure we all trust LFC enough to know they will not jump into anything that is not totally 100% benificial in every sense to the club.
Its exciting in a lot of ways what lies ahead.The primary topic on every fans lips is what players we are gonna sign!
People are expecting Villa,Ronaldhinio,Kaka all the big superstar names if not in January,definately at season end!
I dont think this what we need...not in January and not even at the end of the season!Hear me out.
Rick Parry has talked about a long term financial strategy that will make LFC secure for the next 100 years!
The reason we are playing catch up and were at this time last season is simple we start the season poorly!
Why do we start poorly?
The answer is simple!
Too many new players not used to our style of play or the LFC way have taken time to find their feet...hence a poor dip in form for the whole team!
Look at us now the team have gelled and are scoring for fun,we are on a par with the top two and i fully expect us to finish the rest of the season taking as many points as both Chelsea and UTD.
So i dont really see the point in bringing in any new faces this season.Personally i feel that will only rock the boat and it will be Deja vu...of the previous 2 seasons.We will be sh.it for the first 8 weeks or so then come good,this will never win us the EPL!
I think we should sit tight with what we have for the rest of the season and the season ahead!
We dont need to let all this money thats coming burn a hole in our pockets.
We should give it a year then see who we need to say goodbye to and who we want and more importantly NEED to welcome aboard!
Just my thoughts...maybe im wrong..What do you lot think?
Ace Ventura wrote:aCe' wrote:if u dont change... you lag behind
we did a bit of changing... credit to rafa...
quality of players we brought in (bellamy, Pennant, Gonzales...etc) .. not good enough... id be willing to give all the signing enough time to gel in and play their best...but imo... THIS season is the time wen u do all ur picking and sorting out... we are already out of the title race...things not looking so good in the champions league... etc
for next season...with the new financial situation...we have an opportunity that i think we should go for... sign players we obviously need (though sometimes refuse to admit) !
at left back... riise...i mean...i like the guy... one of my fav. players int he world... but... come on... if we have the chance of signing a player like lahm... i say we go for it..
Ribery instead of M.Gonzales or Aurelio.... i mean... sure we can give Gonzales and Aurelio the next 2 years to adapt to the english league and all... but... ribery will probably be in some other big club by then....and if that club is manutd or chelsea ...there you have it... gap is only getting bigger...
Chelsea are signing players.... Manutd are making some quality signings (carrick) , we too have made good signings (bellamy, pennant) but in comparison...what we do is more like baby steps..
time to bridge the gap... only way i see that happening is by us signing better players !
What a poor excuse for a post this is.
Bellamy now his court case is out of the way is showing exactly what he is capable of, and has been our best player the last couple of games.
Gonzalez has had unfortunate injuries and while the jury is still out he has already scored 3 times, i think Kewell scored about 4-5 in the whole of last season.
Pennant has been poor and seems to lack passion and desire but lets just hope he starts showing what he is capable of soon, like Bellamy has.
And btw Ribery is predominately a right winger, so if he was signed i very much doubt it would be to replace Gonzalez or Auellio.
Carrick is not a good signing at all. He has nothing to his game, his tackling is OK, passing OK, shooting OK, he doesnt dicatate the pace of a game like Xabi does for us, and doesnt have one outstanding quality.
A vastly over rated player imo.
I agree with the posters that say give the current players time, if it wasnt for over rotation at the start of the season and the worst set of fixtures in recent memory we wouldnt be so far off the pace at this stage.
Anfield rapper wrote:I completely agree with the first post. There have been quite a few signings since Rafa arrived and now i think he has made the team his own and should only really be signing one or two at most per transfer window. Last season we started terribly but at the end of the season we were unbeatable. It seams to be happening again. OK we have played many of the top sides away but even against poor teams we have struggled at times. I just think next summer if we do get the investment Rafa should consentrate on signing one world class player not 3 or 4 £10m players who all need time to settle in.
Just look at Chelski, they signed Ballack and Shevc*nto and eventhough they haven't really performed its only two players so it hasn't really affected the teams form and sooner or later the two of them will come good and be great players again.
aCe' wrote:Anfield rapper wrote:I completely agree with the first post. There have been quite a few signings since Rafa arrived and now i think he has made the team his own and should only really be signing one or two at most per transfer window. Last season we started terribly but at the end of the season we were unbeatable. It seams to be happening again. OK we have played many of the top sides away but even against poor teams we have struggled at times. I just think next summer if we do get the investment Rafa should consentrate on signing one world class player not 3 or 4 £10m players who all need time to settle in.
Just look at Chelski, they signed Ballack and Shevc*nto and eventhough they haven't really performed its only two players so it hasn't really affected the teams form and sooner or later the two of them will come good and be great players again.
chelsea signed :
Shevchenko
Ballack
A.Cole
Khalid Boulahrouz
J.O. Mikel
W.Bridge (loan)
Kalou
3 or 4 of which feature almost every game.. if not starting, as subs !
Just compare the quality of signing we made to theirs and you'll see where im going with this .
we have a good squad...many player who will improve if given time... that much i agree with...
just not good enough if you ask me !
in this league, u can beat the likes of charlton and wigan all you want.. that wont win you the league... it might get u to 3rd spot.. our current standing.
if you want to win the league... you are expected to have a team better than the other 19 clubs competing with you.. chelsea had that for the past 2 seasons... imo they still do.. juventus had it in italy...now inter have it .... barca has it in spain... bayern in germany..
you cant honestly tell me u expect liverpool with the current squad of players to win the league... u can kid urself all you want... i just cant buy it !
im not saying go out and buy 5 or 6 new signings... im just saying that if we want to win the league, we need to improve the quality of players we have. 2 or 3 signings in the rite positions would do imo !
aCe' wrote:Anfield rapper wrote:I completely agree with the first post. There have been quite a few signings since Rafa arrived and now i think he has made the team his own and should only really be signing one or two at most per transfer window. Last season we started terribly but at the end of the season we were unbeatable. It seams to be happening again. OK we have played many of the top sides away but even against poor teams we have struggled at times. I just think next summer if we do get the investment Rafa should consentrate on signing one world class player not 3 or 4 £10m players who all need time to settle in.
Just look at Chelski, they signed Ballack and Shevc*nto and eventhough they haven't really performed its only two players so it hasn't really affected the teams form and sooner or later the two of them will come good and be great players again.
chelsea signed :
Shevchenko
Ballack
A.Cole
Khalid Boulahrouz
J.O. Mikel
W.Bridge (loan)
Kalou
3 or 4 of which feature almost every game.. if not starting, as subs !
Just compare the quality of signing we made to theirs and you'll see where im going with this .
we have a good squad...many player who will improve if given time... that much i agree with...
just not good enough if you ask me !
in this league, u can beat the likes of charlton and wigan all you want.. that wont win you the league... it might get u to 3rd spot.. our current standing.
if you want to win the league... you are expected to have a team better than the other 19 clubs competing with you.. chelsea had that for the past 2 seasons... imo they still do.. juventus had it in italy...now inter have it .... barca has it in spain... bayern in germany..
you cant honestly tell me u expect liverpool with the current squad of players to win the league... u can kid urself all you want... i just cant buy it !
im not saying go out and buy 5 or 6 new signings... im just saying that if we want to win the league, we need to improve the quality of players we have. 2 or 3 signings in the rite positions would do imo !
aCe' wrote:aCe' wrote:Anfield rapper wrote:I completely agree with the first post. There have been quite a few signings since Rafa arrived and now i think he has made the team his own and should only really be signing one or two at most per transfer window. Last season we started terribly but at the end of the season we were unbeatable. It seams to be happening again. OK we have played many of the top sides away but even against poor teams we have struggled at times. I just think next summer if we do get the investment Rafa should consentrate on signing one world class player not 3 or 4 £10m players who all need time to settle in.
Just look at Chelski, they signed Ballack and Shevc*nto and eventhough they haven't really performed its only two players so it hasn't really affected the teams form and sooner or later the two of them will come good and be great players again.
chelsea signed :
Shevchenko
Ballack
A.Cole
Khalid Boulahrouz
J.O. Mikel
W.Bridge (loan)
Kalou
3 or 4 of which feature almost every game.. if not starting, as subs !
Just compare the quality of signing we made to theirs and you'll see where im going with this .
we have a good squad...many player who will improve if given time... that much i agree with...
just not good enough if you ask me !
in this league, u can beat the likes of charlton and wigan all you want.. that wont win you the league... it might get u to 3rd spot.. our current standing.
if you want to win the league... you are expected to have a team better than the other 19 clubs competing with you.. chelsea had that for the past 2 seasons... imo they still do.. juventus had it in italy...now inter have it .... barca has it in spain... bayern in germany..
you cant honestly tell me u expect liverpool with the current squad of players to win the league... u can kid urself all you want... i just cant buy it !
im not saying go out and buy 5 or 6 new signings... im just saying that if we want to win the league, we need to improve the quality of players we have. 2 or 3 signings in the rite positions would do imo !
chelsea have a great manager my friend... and so do we !
now you answer me this... why did they win the league the last couple of seasons and we didnt ?!
aCe' wrote:Ace Ventura wrote:aCe' wrote:if u dont change... you lag behind
we did a bit of changing... credit to rafa...
quality of players we brought in (bellamy, Pennant, Gonzales...etc) .. not good enough... id be willing to give all the signing enough time to gel in and play their best...but imo... THIS season is the time wen u do all ur picking and sorting out... we are already out of the title race...things not looking so good in the champions league... etc
for next season...with the new financial situation...we have an opportunity that i think we should go for... sign players we obviously need (though sometimes refuse to admit) !
at left back... riise...i mean...i like the guy... one of my fav. players int he world... but... come on... if we have the chance of signing a player like lahm... i say we go for it..
Ribery instead of M.Gonzales or Aurelio.... i mean... sure we can give Gonzales and Aurelio the next 2 years to adapt to the english league and all... but... ribery will probably be in some other big club by then....and if that club is manutd or chelsea ...there you have it... gap is only getting bigger...
Chelsea are signing players.... Manutd are making some quality signings (carrick) , we too have made good signings (bellamy, pennant) but in comparison...what we do is more like baby steps..
time to bridge the gap... only way i see that happening is by us signing better players !
What a poor excuse for a post this is.
Bellamy now his court case is out of the way is showing exactly what he is capable of, and has been our best player the last couple of games.
Gonzalez has had unfortunate injuries and while the jury is still out he has already scored 3 times, i think Kewell scored about 4-5 in the whole of last season.
Pennant has been poor and seems to lack passion and desire but lets just hope he starts showing what he is capable of soon, like Bellamy has.
And btw Ribery is predominately a right winger, so if he was signed i very much doubt it would be to replace Gonzalez or Auellio.
Carrick is not a good signing at all. He has nothing to his game, his tackling is OK, passing OK, shooting OK, he doesnt dicatate the pace of a game like Xabi does for us, and doesnt have one outstanding quality.
A vastly over rated player imo.
I agree with the posters that say give the current players time, if it wasnt for over rotation at the start of the season and the worst set of fixtures in recent memory we wouldnt be so far off the pace at this stage.
court case...hahahah
yea...guess he'll go on to score 30 goals in the league this season heh ?!
lsn... bellamy is not that good a player; him scoring 3 or 4 goals against relegation battlers in recent weeks doesnt mean sht to me !
mark gonzales is not a good a player.. scored 4 goals... good for him... id pick kewell if he was fit any freakin day of the week ! the guy lacks quality and its so obvious... wat are you saying !
pennant is poor. given a chance he might improve, but still dont think he has the quality needed.
Gerrard is better in cenrtral midfield.
Ribery can play in the left flank as well as the right flank.
Carrick is a good player. i think hes overrated too but cant say he is not a good signing at all. they r top of the table and imo that says it all.
Rafa-Dodd wrote:The whole of the right side needs to be strengthened in my view. Cover for Finnan, and a new winger, a first teamer. And a "big" goalscorer is needed, if we are to compete with the Mancs and Chelsea next year.
Rafa-Dodd wrote:So in conclusion, I am very very happy with our squad but like everything in life, things can be improved. The whole of the right side needs to be strengthened in my view. Cover for Finnan, and a new winger, a first teamer. And a "big" goalscorer is needed, if we are to compete with the Mancs and Chelsea next year.
Onwards and Upwards....
EddieC wrote:Rafa-Dodd wrote:So in conclusion, I am very very happy with our squad but like everything in life, things can be improved. The whole of the right side needs to be strengthened in my view. Cover for Finnan, and a new winger, a first teamer. And a "big" goalscorer is needed, if we are to compete with the Mancs and Chelsea next year.
Onwards and Upwards....
So Crouchy's not big enough?
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