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by **maguskwt** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:31 pm

dawson99 wrote:
maguskwt wrote:geez... how many smileys do I have to put in there to make it look like sarcasm...

you see my sig? Dirk is back!...

is that sarcasm?

I wonder...

by **account deleted by request** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:31 pm

maguskwt wrote:geez... how many smileys do I have to put in there to make it look like sarcasm...

you see my sig? Dirk is back!...

Too late to back track now mate..... doesn't matter what you said or what you say ...... you're now a Kuyt hater

by **maguskwt** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:33 pm

s@int wrote:
maguskwt wrote:geez... how many smileys do I have to put in there to make it look like sarcasm...

you see my sig? Dirk is back!...

Too late to back track now mate..... doesn't matter what you said or what you say ...... you're now a Kuyt hater

haha... I do like Dirk... seriously...

by **GYBS** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:33 pm

s@int wrote:
GYBS wrote:cisse got 5 goals in 16 games 4 in the league and 1 in europe so total of 5 in 25 games- the season afterwards he got 7 in 33 games in league , 2 in fa cup , 8 in 14 in europe , so 17 in 58 games . so 73 games he got 22 goals .

22 goals in 43 starts for Cisse.....36 of his appearances were as a sub,mainly because he was coming back after an injury.

so overall they are all on a par with each other and all down to which one brought to the team .

by **account deleted by request** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:35 pm

GYBS wrote:
s@int wrote:
GYBS wrote:cisse got 5 goals in 16 games 4 in the league and 1 in europe so total of 5 in 25 games- the season afterwards he got 7 in 33 games in league , 2 in fa cup , 8 in 14 in europe , so 17 in 58 games . so 73 games he got 22 goals .

22 goals in 43 starts for Cisse.....36 of his appearances were as a sub,mainly because he was coming back after an injury.

so overall they are all on a par with each other and all down to which one brought to the team .

They are on a par? But its well known and accepted that Cisse wasn't good enough for us

by **dawson99** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:35 pm

s@int wrote:
GYBS wrote:
s@int wrote:
GYBS wrote:cisse got 5 goals in 16 games 4 in the league and 1 in europe so total of 5 in 25 games- the season afterwards he got 7 in 33 games in league , 2 in fa cup , 8 in 14 in europe , so 17 in 58 games . so 73 games he got 22 goals .

22 goals in 43 starts for Cisse.....36 of his appearances were as a sub,mainly because he was coming back after an injury.

so overall they are all on a par with each other and all down to which one brought to the team .

They are on a par? But its well known and accepted that Cisse wasn't good enough for us

cisse wasn't adaptable in different positions, Cisse wasn't and couldn't be the dynamo Kuyt has been for us on the right

by **account deleted by request** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:36 pm

maguskwt wrote:
s@int wrote:
maguskwt wrote:geez... how many smileys do I have to put in there to make it look like sarcasm...

you see my sig? Dirk is back!...

Too late to back track now mate..... doesn't matter what you said or what you say ...... you're now a Kuyt hater

haha... I do like Dirk... seriously...

So do I mate...... but it makes no difference what you say..... they don't read it anyway

by **GYBS** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:38 pm

s@int wrote:
GYBS wrote:
s@int wrote:
GYBS wrote:cisse got 5 goals in 16 games 4 in the league and 1 in europe so total of 5 in 25 games- the season afterwards he got 7 in 33 games in league , 2 in fa cup , 8 in 14 in europe , so 17 in 58 games . so 73 games he got 22 goals .

22 goals in 43 starts for Cisse.....36 of his appearances were as a sub,mainly because he was coming back after an injury.

so overall they are all on a par with each other and all down to which one brought to the team .

They are on a par? But its well known and accepted that Cisse wasn't good enough for us

In terms of goals they are on a par - as for cisse i would compare him with babel - great ability and pace and power but lack of football awareness - good enough for us ? as a starter week in week out ? not for me . as a back up - yes as he does score goals , but i dont think i would want him in the squad due to lack of work ethic and his attitude .

by **aCe'** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:39 pm

dawson99 wrote:
s@int wrote:
GYBS wrote:
s@int wrote:
GYBS wrote:cisse got 5 goals in 16 games 4 in the league and 1 in europe so total of 5 in 25 games- the season afterwards he got 7 in 33 games in league , 2 in fa cup , 8 in 14 in europe , so 17 in 58 games . so 73 games he got 22 goals .

22 goals in 43 starts for Cisse.....36 of his appearances were as a sub,mainly because he was coming back after an injury.

so overall they are all on a par with each other and all down to which one brought to the team .

They are on a par? But its well known and accepted that Cisse wasn't good enough for us

cisse wasn't adaptable in different positions, Cisse wasn't and couldn't be the dynamo Kuyt has been for us on the right

woooooooooooooooooooooot ?

Cisse played down the right aswell mate and actually scored more than Kuyt did when he played pretty much the same role...
wouldnt say he didnt adapt to the position just that the manager thought he wasnt good enough despite his goal return :Oo:

mmmmmmm.... funny one that ...

by **aCe'** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:41 pm

GYBS wrote:
s@int wrote:
GYBS wrote:
s@int wrote:
GYBS wrote:cisse got 5 goals in 16 games 4 in the league and 1 in europe so total of 5 in 25 games- the season afterwards he got 7 in 33 games in league , 2 in fa cup , 8 in 14 in europe , so 17 in 58 games . so 73 games he got 22 goals .

22 goals in 43 starts for Cisse.....36 of his appearances were as a sub,mainly because he was coming back after an injury.

so overall they are all on a par with each other and all down to which one brought to the team .

They are on a par? But its well known and accepted that Cisse wasn't good enough for us

In terms of goals they are on a par - as for cisse i would compare him with babel - great ability and pace and power but lack of football awareness - good enough for us ? as a starter week in week out ? not for me . as a back up - yes as he does score goals , but i dont think i would want him in the squad due to lack of work ethic and his attitude .

work ethic... hard work... gives 200%.. etc etc... means fck all if you dont have the skills... im not talking about Kuyt im just talking in general... some of the best players in the world today, playing for some clubs that win big things, dont have the work ethic and dont work hard according to many....

hard work is overrated, just ask Daws :glare:

by **dawson99** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:42 pm

aCe' wrote:
dawson99 wrote:
s@int wrote:
GYBS wrote:
s@int wrote:
GYBS wrote:cisse got 5 goals in 16 games 4 in the league and 1 in europe so total of 5 in 25 games- the season afterwards he got 7 in 33 games in league , 2 in fa cup , 8 in 14 in europe , so 17 in 58 games . so 73 games he got 22 goals .

22 goals in 43 starts for Cisse.....36 of his appearances were as a sub,mainly because he was coming back after an injury.

so overall they are all on a par with each other and all down to which one brought to the team .

They are on a par? But its well known and accepted that Cisse wasn't good enough for us

cisse wasn't adaptable in different positions, Cisse wasn't and couldn't be the dynamo Kuyt has been for us on the right

woooooooooooooooooooooot ?

Cisse played down the right aswell mate and actually scored more than Kuyt did when he played pretty much the same role...
wouldnt say he didnt adapt to the position just that the manager thought he wasnt good enough despite his goal return

mmmmmmm.... funny one that ...

bollox. Cisse never had it, u can see by what hes doen since. the injuries finished him im sorry to say

by **maguskwt** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:42 pm

In all honesty neither Kuyt, nor Cisse nor Crouch are/were good enough strikers for LFC... so why are we debating? Among those 3 I like Kuyt the most because he plays his heart out for LFC he was asked to play on the right and he plays non-stop there and deserved his success last season. Cisse and Crouch had fustrated me more than Kuyt. In the beginning I don't see why alot of people were criticising Kuyt so much... but throughout the years I have started to realise that he does have a less than average touch and fustrates me sometimes during the games... but he more than makes up this disadvantage with the way he plays all out for LFC. The guy really gives 110%, down to earth, humble and no complaints. And I don't accept that he's a hopeless striker... in the box when given the time and service he has the ability to hit the target and he does have a decent header... maybe it's the way we play that doesn't suit him. The way we play, Gerrard and Torres are constantly moving with quick one two passes. Kuyt doesn't have this in him because of his touch and because of his slow reaction so to say... But I believe if he played in a team like the mancs where the midfield does all the work, he would score more goals...

by **aCe'** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:44 pm

dawson99 wrote:
aCe' wrote:
dawson99 wrote:
s@int wrote:
GYBS wrote:
s@int wrote:
GYBS wrote:cisse got 5 goals in 16 games 4 in the league and 1 in europe so total of 5 in 25 games- the season afterwards he got 7 in 33 games in league , 2 in fa cup , 8 in 14 in europe , so 17 in 58 games . so 73 games he got 22 goals .

22 goals in 43 starts for Cisse.....36 of his appearances were as a sub,mainly because he was coming back after an injury.

so overall they are all on a par with each other and all down to which one brought to the team .

They are on a par? But its well known and accepted that Cisse wasn't good enough for us

cisse wasn't adaptable in different positions, Cisse wasn't and couldn't be the dynamo Kuyt has been for us on the right

woooooooooooooooooooooot ?

Cisse played down the right aswell mate and actually scored more than Kuyt did when he played pretty much the same role...
wouldnt say he didnt adapt to the position just that the manager thought he wasnt good enough despite his goal return

mmmmmmm.... funny one that ...

bollox. Cisse never had it, u can see by what hes doen since. the injuries finished him im sorry to say

Cisse never had what ?

by **dawson99** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:44 pm

CISSE

Club Season Premiership FA Cup League Cup Europe Others Total
App Goals App Goals App Goals App Goals App Goals App Goals
Liverpool 2004–05 16 4 0 0 0 0 9 1 0 0 25 5
2005–06 33 7 6 2 0 0 14 8 5 0 58 17

KUYT
Club Season Flag of England Premiership FA Cup League Cup Europe Others Total
App Goals App Goals App Goals App Goals App Goals App Goals
Liverpool 2008–09 38 12 2 0 0 0 11 3 0 0 51 15
2007–08 32 3 4 1 0 0 12 7 0 0 48 11
2006–07 34 12 1 1 2 0 11 1 0 0 48 14

Add all the extras... no questions needed

by **account deleted by request** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:45 pm

I will re-itterate my point then I will leave it for a while

Kuyt is not and never will be as important a player as Gerrard or Torres and anyone that thinks that is in my opinion clueless about football. That does not mean Kuyt is not an important player, it does not mean I want to sell him, it does not mean I think he is cr@p, sh!t or a waste of a shirt. It just means that he is not and never will be as important a player as Torres or Gerrard.

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