Defoe

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Postby Ciggy » Sat Dec 04, 2004 9:06 am

How much would he cost?
Would he come to us?
Would Rafa want him?
I think he would do wonders for us, with the right supply from our midfield he is a goal poacher something we despratly need, only problem is hes a bit small, but then again so was MO.
I found this article on the spurs site and out of all the clubs we would seem to be faviourtes to sign him.
If given the money needed what 10mill plus?
Jermain Defoe’s very presence in this Spurs side is something of a mystery. Whatever was said to him, to convince him to join Tottenham in the first place, must be wearing very thin by now.

He belongs in a team that can provide the kind of service that will allow him to play to his full potential. The reason he has impressed so much this season, despite only scoring 6 premiership goals in 15 appearances, is that he has had to do most of the work for himself.

Exactly what rosy picture was he sold? He must want to play in Europe and he must know he is good enough. Did he really believe that Spurs would be in Europe in the next twelve to twenty four months?

Were offers not tabled from any of the Premiership’s bigger clubs – Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Newcastle or Manchester United?

Perhaps he values an England place above European competition. This in mind, he may have made a conscious decision to ensure first team football, and so chose to sign for a club where he would be first on the team sheet.

If he had gone to any of the aforementioned clubs, he may have had to bide his time and take his opportunities when they came along.

However, staring down the barrel of the relegation shotgun, must be making him rue his career choice. Having already been relegated once, he will be keen not to travel that road again.

So, come January, who will come knocking?

Arsenal just do not need any more talented youth players to bolster their already very impressive ‘second string’, who are all vying for a first team place.

Jose Mourinho has already categorically stated that he does not intend to purchase another forward in January.

Man Utd have a full quota up front, and unless Sir Alex is looking to offload any of his four hit men, he is highly unlikely to want to invest further cash in his forward line. One cannot see even the slimmest possibility of him wanting to let Saha, Rooney, Van Nistelrooy or Smith go.

Newcastle will have a spare slot when Shearer hangs up his boots, but don’t need to fill that void just yet. Also, it is his back line that Graeme Souness should be looking at fixing, not his goal scoring capabilities.

Liverpool surely though, should attempt to prise him away from the Lane. With their current strike force headache, they need goals and they need them quick. They should not risk bringing in another continental, who would need Premiership ‘bedding in’ time. With Defoe being the most likely proven Premiership goal scorer, to be having itchy feet come January, why think twice?

With Defoe on board and Gerrard now fit, alongside Alonso in midfield, once Baros returns, Liverpool would boast a most potent attacking threat.

Being first choice at Liverpool, would do Defoe’s England propects no harm at all.

It is all very well Spurs stating that he is not for sale, but everyone has a price and no club should want to keep a player on their books, who does not want to be there. It is a false economy of the highest order.

With five must win games for Spurs between now and the end of the year, Martin Jol has the chance to convince his young England superstar that he made the right decision, and that Spurs really are a team going places. If Jol does not get Spurs into January with a much rosier outlook than at present, he would surely be in danger of losing his prized asset.

Without Defoe, it is hard to see where the goals would come from, with Keane and Kanoute hardly setting the world alight this season, or, in Kanoute’s case, this year.

If Tottenham are to make any in-roads into becoming a realistic Premiership force, then they are going to need Jermain Defoe. It is going to take time for Jol and his team to become anything other than a work in progress. But, time waits for no man, and football is a (very) fast moving business.

It’s one thing for the fans to remain patient, but will his best player?

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Postby bigmick » Sat Dec 04, 2004 10:02 am

I looked on the Spurs site after the game in Midweek Lynds, all their fans seem to think he is going to come to us in January (seen getting in the back of a taxi with a bloke who had shaggy hair, droopy moustache and shell suit on by my mates brothers next door neighbour type of rumours). Its funny how this type of horsesh/t can actually be true though. I agree with you and think he would be a brilliant signing for us, but also I'm sure that if we are going to bid we had better dig deep. If we're serious, our mattress must be pretty unlevel what with all that secret stash crammed under.
15 million minimum for me. Probably nearer 20 but given his age/talent, probably not overpriced. My only concern would be his attitude (the pulling the shirt over his head in celebration when he knew this would result in a booking and suspension set the alarm bells ringing a touch).
As an aside, we all watch football and think we've got a clue and occasionally things baffle us. West Ham were trying to get money in, Defoe was going to leave. He was pretty obviously a talent, so why 7 million? A little like when Leeds were trying to offload Paul Robinson. 2.5 million? You didn't need to be Einstein to know this was cheap. Strange.
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Postby The_Rock » Sat Dec 04, 2004 10:07 am

If we are thinking about getting campo as a cover for centrebacks, then i know that we seriously have no transfer cash. So no use talking about dafoe.....
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Postby Ciggy » Sat Dec 04, 2004 10:08 am

That Jol has said if they finish in the top 11 they would be happy ??? .
Now for a player of Defoes quality and of course for his england place, he wouldnt be happy with that atall.
He would love to play in europe and he would be great for us, I can see him wanting to come to us because spurs are a joke at the moment, and I dont think he will want to be there any longer, he would love to play along side stevie, have a fantastic manager in Rafa that would turn an allready good player into a fantastic player.
I think there maybe some truth in this, but we will have to wait and see next month.
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Postby dawson99 » Sat Dec 04, 2004 10:14 am

i like defoe, but u got to think if he did come to us is he always looking for more?
he left west ham for spurs, now if he leaves them after that soon then thats not a good sign. We want players who love to play for us. plus hes said that he wants to stay at spurs (yeah, that means he'll never leave!!!)
i dunno, the lads a good player, but im sure we can find betetr for less money
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Postby banana » Sat Dec 04, 2004 10:40 am

Benitez will find players just as good at half his cost. Benitez will never get caught up in a bidding contest, suffering the winner's curse. He is just too smart for that to happen.
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Postby Gareth G » Sat Dec 04, 2004 5:13 pm

Jol has said that to try and ease the pressure off himself and lower the expectations of the fans, but none the less that wont go down well with the likes of Defoe as players like him want and need to be playing in Europe at one level or another, weather it be CL or UEFA cup.

As for Defoe himself, ive always been a big, BIG fan of him. Even in his West Ham days. It has always amazed me why a bigger club didnt join the race for him! I personally would be prepared to bust the bank and go deeper into dept for him. Thats how good i think he is...

Bigmick, hopefuly theres some kind of truthfull story to what you said lol! :D
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