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[bigmick]

The short answer to the original question is of course, no.

Sometimes football is a far simpler game than people make out. Simple questions require simple answers, and some of them don't need it to be proven in graphic terms for it to be obvious.

Aurelio is a left back. Simple really.

[GYBS]

The short answer to the original question is of course, no.

Sometimes football is a far simpler game than people make out. Simple questions require simple answers, and some of them don't need it to be proven in graphic terms for it to be obvious.

Aurelio is a left back. Simple really.

My god mick thats three things we have agreed on lately - something is not right with the world

[GYBS]

yes and no aurelio shouldnt play cm - he is a left back and bloody good one at that and lucas is better than aurelio as a cm

see said so as well ages ago 

[bigmick]

The key is in the date mate of my post mate.

Just like the key to some of us saying that Lucas/Masherano wasn't going to work in the majority of matches was the fact that it was before the season started. You don't need to see Aurelio flounder in central midfield again to realise he wasn't a central midfielder. We already did last season at Pompey anyway. People said it worked there, we were 2-1 with 90 seconds left so it was hardly a roaring success I didn't think. You didn't need to see Masherano and Lucas flounder and fluster their way through three league matches (two of which we lost) to know that Gerrard moving back was the answer.

I've said a few times now, silly mistakes cost you points and prizes. Maybe that's one of the pluses of our weak squad, the "options and possibilities" are diminished so there is less scope for ridiculousness and silly mistakes. It's a bit like hiding a kids toys so he can't make a mess on the front room floor, a shame you've got to do it but unfortunately necessary sometimes.

[GYBS]

The key is in the date mate of my post mate.

Just like the key to some of us saying that Lucas/Masherano wasn't going to work in the majority of matches was the fact that it was before the season started. You don't need to see Aurelio flounder in central midfield again to realise he wasn't a central midfielder. We already did last season at Pompey anyway. People said it worked there, we were 2-1 with 90 seconds left so it was hardly a roaring success I didn't think. You didn't need to see Masherano and Lucas flounder and fluster their way through three league matches (two of which we lost) to know that Gerrard moving back was the answer.

I've said a few times now, silly mistakes cost you points and prizes. Maybe that's one of the pluses of our weak squad, the "options and possibilities" are diminished so there is less scope for ridiculousness and silly mistakes. It's a bit like hiding a kids toys so he can't make a mess on the front room floor, a shame you've got to do it but unfortunately necessary sometimes.

i agree with you mate hence why i stated that aurelio should never play cm two days before you brought it up mate .

[maguskwt]

Will give another example...

Could Paolo Maldini, arguably one of the best left backs the world have ever seen with a very wide variety of skill sets, ever be as good a CM as Demetrio Albertini, a world class midfielder but cannot be considered one of the best in his postion? I don't think so...and albertini was considered more defensive than a pure CM. Heck they even played Dino Baggio, a good DM but not really in the same class as Albertini, instead of playing Maldini as a defensive midfielder... I wonder why?

You're comparing players who are the best in a position, of course they're not going to fill in - duh. The basic skills are the same whether you think so or not, I think what you're doing is arguing a completely different thing which is the quality. I never said that a good FB would make a good CM or DM, in fact I could well have left CM out altogether, but that they have the same (basic) skills IN THEORY. That is why FBs have been played at DM and vice versa, it happens and has been done by managers in the top flight and at international level. So you're trying to tell us all that these managers have flawed logic?!?!? I don't doubt Maldini would have made an excellent DM/CM but you don't take top quality players in a position and play them out of position. You're focusing too much on quality rather than the point I made.

I think you should stick to humping mice

  losing the argument and personal insults come in...

your point then is something not worth making a point about... 

[The_Rock]

Will give another example...

Could Paolo Maldini, arguably one of the best left backs the world have ever seen with a very wide variety of skill sets, ever be as good a CM as Demetrio Albertini, a world class midfielder but cannot be considered one of the best in his postion? I don't think so...and albertini was considered more defensive than a pure CM. Heck they even played Dino Baggio, a good DM but not really in the same class as Albertini, instead of playing Maldini as a defensive midfielder... I wonder why?

You're comparing players who are the best in a position, of course they're not going to fill in - duh. The basic skills are the same whether you think so or not, I think what you're doing is arguing a completely different thing which is the quality. I never said that a good FB would make a good CM or DM, in fact I could well have left CM out altogether, but that they have the same (basic) skills IN THEORY. That is why FBs have been played at DM and vice versa, it happens and has been done by managers in the top flight and at international level. So you're trying to tell us all that these managers have flawed logic?!?!? I don't doubt Maldini would have made an excellent DM/CM but you don't take top quality players in a position and play them out of position. You're focusing too much on quality rather than the point I made.

I think you should stick to humping mice

  losing the argument and personal insults come in...

your point then is something not worth making a point about... 

............. humping mice 

[Sir Roger]

I think the answer was there for everyone to see last night
Lucas and Aurelio as our midfield generals
Ye fukcin Gods!!

[stmichael]

The decision last night absolutely baffled me if I'm honest. It completely disrupted the flow of the whole side, especially in the first half. It's almost as if Rafa tries to be clever some times. Why change it? Why weren't Babal or Riera starting.

It's not Aurelio's fault though. It's a lot different playing in there against Pompey and playiong there in the Champions League away from home in an intimidating atmosphere.

[Owzat]

Trying to play a familiar system without the players that made it work. But the result could well have been the same without that 'error', no point trying to blame it all on that decision (not saying people are, just saying there is no point doing it) If players don't play well then it doesn't matter how good or bad a system is, just the same a team can win employing a poor system in spite of it not because of it

[maguskwt]

Will give another example...

Could Paolo Maldini, arguably one of the best left backs the world have ever seen with a very wide variety of skill sets, ever be as good a CM as Demetrio Albertini, a world class midfielder but cannot be considered one of the best in his postion? I don't think so...and albertini was considered more defensive than a pure CM. Heck they even played Dino Baggio, a good DM but not really in the same class as Albertini, instead of playing Maldini as a defensive midfielder... I wonder why?

You're comparing players who are the best in a position, of course they're not going to fill in - duh. The basic skills are the same whether you think so or not, I think what you're doing is arguing a completely different thing which is the quality. I never said that a good FB would make a good CM or DM, in fact I could well have left CM out altogether, but that they have the same (basic) skills IN THEORY. That is why FBs have been played at DM and vice versa, it happens and has been done by managers in the top flight and at international level. So you're trying to tell us all that these managers have flawed logic?!?!? I don't doubt Maldini would have made an excellent DM/CM but you don't take top quality players in a position and play them out of position. You're focusing too much on quality rather than the point I made.

I think you should stick to humping mice

  losing the argument and personal insults come in...

your point then is something not worth making a point about... 

............. humping mice 

..... humping Iron Man? 

[maguskwt]

I've said a few times now, silly mistakes cost you points and prizes. Maybe that's one of the pluses of our weak squad, the "options and possibilities" are diminished so there is less scope for ridiculousness and silly mistakes. It's a bit like hiding a kids toys so he can't make a mess on the front room floor, a shame you've got to do it but unfortunately necessary sometimes.

yeah... praise our owners for hiding the toys! 

[Madmax]

should aurellio play in cm? after yesterdays display feck no..

[tubby]

Against the smaller domestic sides he can yes but in Europe, never again. That was almost as epic a fail as Skrtel at RB against Boro.

[GYBS]

Bav it hasnt really been proved he can even against smaller domestic sides - he was a passenger against leeds and did okish against pompey - that is far from any proof - the guy is a left back - simple as that .