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[Ciggy]

Infact if we sold the 3 of them we would'nt miss them cause the 3 of them are not doing anything as far as Im concerned.
And I would'nt loose any sleep over it either hope Rafa realised this morning that we require 2 quality strikers and not just one.
It is great when our midfielders score goals of course it is, but its not their job or responsibilty to always be getting us out of trouble.
Ronald Koeman was at the game yesterday so lets hope this Simao deal is still in the pipeline he's scored 16 goals this season already.

[SouthCoastShankly]

Our midfield didn't contribute much up front either.  When you consider who we had in the middle compared to who they had, we should have achieved more from the middle of the park.  ManUre were playing for the draw until the last ten minutes, so there wasn't much space to build attacks.  However, I blame our midfield for not dominating the game AND THEN Cisse for squandering what little we did create.

If our midfield didn't dominate the game, who did then??

Cos' i didn't see any dominance from the mancs midfield? We won the midfield battle, we just weren't attacking when we had possesion. The ball kept returning to the back four, we need some creativity, someone to take the game to the mancs

[2520years]

Our midfield didn't contribute much up front either.  When you consider who we had in the middle compared to who they had, we should have achieved more from the middle of the park.  ManUre were playing for the draw until the last ten minutes, so there wasn't much space to build attacks.  However, I blame our midfield for not dominating the game AND THEN Cisse for squandering what little we did create.

If our midfield didn't dominate the game, who did then??

Cos' i didn't see any dominance from the mancs midfield? We won the midfield battle, we just weren't attacking when we had possesion. The ball kept returning to the back four, we need some creativity, someone to take the game to the mancs

The reason it was such a dull spectacle was that neither midfield achieved any dominance.  I'll bet in the action areas, around 80% was in the middle third of the pitch.

I agree we lacked creativity, I think we missed Luis Garcia.  Gerrard was relatively quiet, which often seems to happen when we play better teams.

We could do with a better finisher, maybe we should bring Mellor back!

[red_indian]

Cisse - probably all been said before but its time he realised that if in the future he is dropped its not because some personal vendetta Rafa has with him or anything of the sort but rather because he does not do enough for the team (Crouch closed the keeper down much more than Cisse did), seems to play as if he is on a different wavelenght to everyone else yet blames anyone in ear shot, in general cannot finsih but rather employs the 'hit and hope' mentality and more so because we're all tired of his s*** and someone else deserves a chance!

Its not just one bad game either. With some strikers you remember their performances even if they didn't score on the day, with Cisse i don't think thats ever the case, in fact you only ever remember his goals (the few that he's scored) - he's not a good enough trier and i think lacks the attitude to succeed in the p'ship. He also i don't think he has the skill and know how to use his speed (the only asset) to his best advantage - lets face it heskey never managed to profit meaningfully from his ox-like physique - you can have all the attributes but its not always easy to marry them together to create a winning formula.

lets face it Rafa knows all this so the scouts will be busy and we'll get back what we can from Cisse - he should just stop whinging and look at himself for a change and really analyse what he's done for LFC

[66-1137139704]

Our midfield didn't contribute much up front either.  When you consider who we had in the middle compared to who they had, we should have achieved more from the middle of the park.  ManUre were playing for the draw until the last ten minutes, so there wasn't much space to build attacks.  However, I blame our midfield for not dominating the game AND THEN Cisse for squandering what little we did create.

you cannot blame the midfielders as they outplayed there manure counterparts.
The problem was with the strikers,there was no or little movement from cisse and crouch to create space for a splitting pass.They were practically waiting for the ball to be passed straight to there feet(or head for crouch).

I think we sorely missed baros today. 

[SouthCoastShankly]

Baros wouldn't of made a slight bit of difference. In the Spurs - Villa game he was so bad he made Angel look good!

Crouch reads the game well, he understands what Gerrard/Alonso will do in the way of passing, Cisse was just clueless - almost as if he needed telling what to do. I think his days are numbered, shame because he could of had a good career at Liverpool if he had applied himself.

[115-1073096938]

Baros wouldn't of made a slight bit of difference. In the Spurs - Villa game he was so bad he made Angel look good!

Crouch reads the game well, he understands what Gerrard/Alonso will do in the way of passing, Cisse was just clueless - almost as if he needed telling what to do. I think his days are numbered, shame because he could of had a good career at Liverpool if he had applied himself.

The only thing he has to apply is pace. He's a poor player.

[neil]

What on earth was Houllier thinking? Does anybody see £14 million worth of player here? No. No.No. The mind boggles, then gets suspicious.

[laza]

Im not into this player bashing and i do find it unfortunate Cisse seems to have taken over Kewell vacancy
However its pretty clear to me that he isnt going to produce what we need and for price we paid for him he always going to attract more attention then Crouch an d Mori.
Despite the mitigation that his price tag was done during a silly times for forwards fees, his recovery from terrible injury, his Final performance etc etc.
The simple fact is if we are going mount a serious challenge for the title next year we need one quality forward who is going to score on a regular basis.
Notwithstanding Cisse performance yesterday which has raised the usual ire from fans who love to lash out after a loss, after a year and half Cisse doesnt even look close to filling that role.
I love to be proved wrong as it would only be good for LFC but we really do need a replacement in the summer and Cisse is forward that i would to be sold to finance that

[craig da Toxteth iron]

With Cisse he got to learn to be basic & stop getting different hair styles.

[John Barnes]

oh yes I forgot Cisse fluffed that first half chance after the through ball from gerrard.

baros would have held that up as it was virtually impossible to score from there.

[2520years]

Our midfield didn't contribute much up front either.  When you consider who we had in the middle compared to who they had, we should have achieved more from the middle of the park.  ManUre were playing for the draw until the last ten minutes, so there wasn't much space to build attacks.  However, I blame our midfield for not dominating the game AND THEN Cisse for squandering what little we did create.

you cannot blame the midfielders as they outplayed there manure counterparts.
The problem was with the strikers,there was no or little movement from cisse and crouch to create space for a splitting pass.They were practically waiting for the ball to be passed straight to there feet(or head for crouch).

I think we sorely missed baros today. 

I respect your opinion mudface, but when you compare the quality of our midfield to their midfield, I think we should have created a lot more chances.

Also, how many shots did our midfield have altogether?  I'm struggling to think of any.  We should have dominated possession and territory in that game, and although we did better than ManUre in those respects, we didn't dominate as we should have.

I wonder if the midfield were disillusioned by Cisse continually messing it up, but you'd think they'd be big enough to take the initiative themselves if that was the case.

Don't get me wrong, Cisse had a 'mare and Crouch struggled too, but I think our midfield should have won us this particular game.

[2520years]

I can't say anything polite about the Baros comment, so I'm choosing to ignore it.

[66-1112520797]

oh yes I forgot Cisse fluffed that first half chance after the through ball from gerrard.

baros would have held that up as it was virtually impossible to score from there.

Go and support Villa then , Baros FFS 

[115-1073096938]

With Cisse he got to learn to be basic & stop getting different hair styles.

Yeah completely. He'd be a top player if he had normal hair.