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[laza]

some of the cr@p on here over the last two weeks has been doing my head in.

only the last two weeks........you must have high tolerance level

[stmichael]

some of the cr@p on here over the last two weeks has been doing my head in.

only the last two weeks........you must have high tolerance level

you haven't seen the complaints in my inbox mate.

[Judge]

some of the cr@p on here over the last two weeks has been doing my head in.

only the last two weeks........you must have high tolerance level

you haven't seen the complaints in my inbox mate.

inbox??

tart

[stoney]

some of the cr@p on here over the last two weeks has been doing my head in.

only the last two weeks........you must have high tolerance level

you haven't seen the complaints in my inbox mate.

The way I see it LiverpoolMadman is a spammer and whats even worse is that he does it in Liverpool discussion. 

[Ciggy]

The way I see it LiverpoolMadman is a spammer and whats even worse is that he does it in Liverpool discussion. 

Sack Stoney  err I mean Rafa 

[Judge]

stoney sounds like some flat capped wearing old coal miner  

[48-1119859832]

Djibril Cisse was (s)*i*e yet again. Hence Exhibit A. When Reina threw the ball out to Cisse and instead of coming to meet the ball he decided to run on and lost it, then failed to understand why Reina was flaming him. Another incident that happened was when Cisse tried to get past Gardener and instead of playing the ball back to the defence/Finnan or tracking back with the ball he decides to cross around Gardener and it goes out for a goal kick, not to mention he kept losing the ball.....That's probs why he was subbed at half time, because he's ©rap.

He showed in the match just like all his others (expect for CSKA Moscow & West Brom) that he has no intelligence, he has poor vision and can't read the game as well as having worse anticipation than Crouchy, he's absolutely useless and I can't wait until he's sold in the summer.

[stoney]

stoney sounds like some flat capped wearing old coal miner  

And your the worst of the spammers 

[dawson99]

its bizarre tho because the game before icsse was one of the men of the match for me. there is something very odd about that guy. so frustrating

[Ciggy]

Yep Cisse can better concentrate on his designer career rather than footie.

[Judge]

stoney sounds like some flat capped wearing old coal miner  

And your the worst of the spammers 

stoney scargill (comb over man)     

[Bad Bob]

How can he cant improve when he only played as RW NOT as striker ....

You keep beating this drum but it doesn't make sense...

Notice how this excuse comes out every time Cisse's cack on the right?  (Which is, of course, most of the time.)

Where was this excuse last week when he had a decent game out wide?  No one was saying Cisse couldn't play as a RM last week so why use this excuse this week as an explanation for his inadequacies?

Either he's a good enough player to make RM his own week in, week out or he had a one-off last week and has reverted back to type.  I'm going with option B.

[stoney]

stoney sounds like some flat capped wearing old coal miner  

And your the worst of the spammers 

stoney scargill (comb over man)     

Judge you appear to be lost. This is the liverpool discussion section not general chat. What you doin in here. 

Your posts best suit the latter. 

[Bad Bob]

but Im very happy because he score more goal ( than mori and PC ) yet played less games as Striker ...

At the risk of appearing self-indulgent...

I know I just responded to a similar point from the Madman in the Bolton thread with these same comments below but I thought them worth repeating here in the main Cisse thread because I think his above quoted argument needs to be put into perspective...

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For the record, while Cisse may have 5 more goals than Crouch to date, what really matters is the context of those goals...

For instance, 4 of Cisse's 17 goals came against TNS and FBK Kaunas in the CL qualifiers--not exactly stiff competition.  He scored 2 more against Anderlecht, the weakest team in our CL group by a country mile.  Another 2 of his goals were penalties (Birmingham and Newcastle)--well taken to be sure but the odds were on him scoring.  And, his FA Cup goal against Birmingham--Liverpool's 7th on the night--was the very definition of  a soft goal.  Several others of his have also added to the tally late on, when the match was largely already won.  A picture seems to be emerging...

(To be fair, Cisse's goals did win us the Supercup against CSKA Moscow.  His free kick was also the difference in our home win over Blackburn and he did create Robbie's goal (one of 3 assists this season) and score one of his own against WBA.)

Compare this to Crouch's goals.  Of the 12 he's scored this season (never mind the Dubious Goals Committee's deliberations) several have been vital.  He won us the game against Wigan (H), WBA (H) and, of course, against Man U in the FA Cup (incidently, the last time the Mancs dropped points in all competitions).  He's also chipped in with important goals at important times: his 2 against Birmingham in the FA Cup, ended the game as a contest and he scored the all-important opening goals against Everton (A) and Newcastle (A).  Plus, he's got five assists to go with his 12 goals.

And, in the category of match-winning goals, both Cisse and Crouch are tied with 4 this season.

So my (admittedly long-winded) point is that it is not simply a matter of number of goals scored, but rather a matter of the importance of the goals to the match in question.  In this respect, Crouch edges it for me. 

And, this is in addition to the larger point--made by numerous knowledgeable posters on this forum--that Crouch's all-round game offers so much more to the team than Cisse's.  So, count the goals all you want but Crouch is still a better Liverpool player than Cisse is by a good long way.

[Graeme Noble]

Cisse is better than Crouch, full stop.

People who think otherwise are idiots and don't understand football.