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[onizukaeikichi]

i would like to see cisse playing more as a striker , now he always goes to the wing even if he is the centre foward for us probably too used to it, at the end of the day, it will be sad to see him leave and hopefully someone else better will replace him

[Graeme Noble]

Anything is better than Crouch being the spearhead in attack, that will get us nowhere against Chelsea. We need pace and a threat up front, thats what Djibril is!

[7_Kewell]

Watched him on Saturday & thought he was awesome! Why can't he play like that every week? But then again we don't play West Brom every week. If he can carry on that sort of form for the rest of the season, then he should stay. If not, bye bye Djibril.

West Broms defence was awful.  When we play the likes of Chelski or Manure, they suss him out in the first 5 mins and he ends up being because he's only got 1 trick. 


Kick ball and run.....for a £14 million player, thats just not good enough.

[48-1119859832]

I personally can't wait to see the back of Cisse. He's just simply not good enough for this club, hence why he's never played for the full 90 mins. You can't fault his effort & commitment to the Liverpool cause, but for £14million pounds we have been well and truly ripped off.

His vision is poor, his awareness is poor, his first touch is poor, his control on the ball is poor, passing is poor, shooting is poor, puts power over placement in his shots and throws a wobbly when something doesn't go right for him.

Yes he did have a good performance against West Brom and with no dis-respect to West Brom they are hardly in the mould of Chelsea now are they? Sorry but one good performance just isn't enough for me, I've seen too many bad Djibril moments to wipe the slate clean.

I'll admit he's a great penalty taker but other than that he's a poor, poor football player. His running talent has been wasted he should be representing France in athletics, not football.

[7_Kewell]

hopefully he will get a few more goals and push his price up....i'm hoping he'll get 20 in all competitions and we get £10 million for him......i can dream!

[48-1119859832]

We won't get anywhere near that much money for him. Hell we'd lucky to get £7million for him.

[Graeme Noble]

I'm sick of this constant criticism of Cisse. I don't want to slag anyone off by saying this, but a lot of people here have no clue.
First of all, he broke his leg last year, that isn't easy to recover from. Secondly, he doesn't get regular team action, and when he does get some time, its mostly as a substitute.
Thirdly, he hardly ever gets encouragement from his manager unlike the other strikers. Lastly, when he is given a start its usually on RM and that is not easy for a striker to play in, I mean he made that role his own, and players such as Crouch and Fowler would be really awful if they were in the same situation as Cisse.

[RAGE UK]

I was surprised he passed the ball in front of goal against wba I thought he was going to do his  (I’m going to score this one and o dear I should have passed it).but he passed it and got us off to a 1.0 lead .
I continued to watch him very closely that game and he still thinks he can roast the defenders that little flick on he dose to himself and tries to run past the player he has just flicked the ball past and ....... no he is not fast enough yet again a waste of a good chance of getting the pall over in the box for someone to pick up on it and score. and how many time will he shoot the ball directly at the goal keeper a little flick left or right past the keeper the keeper is going to ground and yes its in the back of the net.
And in a past post someone was saying about him getting thrustrated if he cant get the ball past to him of the pass is overshot he going into one. But why he dost it all the time.
20 goals for a French side yer ok so what 20 goals for them and jack sh...t for us is not good enough.
He was bought to do a job he can’t do just like mori.
I’m a shop fitter and if come to a point where I can’t do the job that I get paid to do I know I’m out and down the jobcentre.
it cost a fair few bob to go to a match nowadays. I want to see Liverpool players that get paid boat loads of wages do the job our ticket money pays for.
And yes give the players a chance but don’t let them take the Mick.
Cissa thinks he is a superstar he tries to act like a super but on the pitch he cant play like a super t.w.a.t…...

[Bad Bob]

Lastly, when he is given a start its usually on RM and that is not easy for a striker to play in, I mean he made that role his own, and players such as Crouch and Fowler would be really awful if they were in the same situation as Cisse.

No disrespect mate, but a couple of minor quibbles...

1) Cisse has hardly made RM "his own" this season given that Rafa's had Gerrard, Garcia, even Kromkamp there in recent weeks (Cisse didn't even make the bench against the Bitters!)

2) True, Crouch would be pants down the right but he brings something Cisse doesn't to the team.

Here's how Rafa describes it (source):

"When we decided to sign him [Crouch], we knew he was a good professional and a nice boy, and he has shown all those things. I wasn't thinking about the number of goals he was going to score, we wanted a target man to give us more possibilities of holding the ball."

Benitez points to the 3-1 win at Newcastle United a fortnight ago as a perfect example of how Crouch has made a difference since his arrival.

"Before the Newcastle game, with us playing only two days later against Birmingham I was thinking about using another formation," he says.. "We played with three defenders there last season with Milan Baros up front and Steven Gerrard as a second striker, and we could not keep the ball.

This season we did the same thing but with Peter Crouch up front, and he kept the ball and gave us all the things that we wanted."
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Based on some of your other posts I can see that you don't rate Crouch but you have to acknowledge that he adds dimensions to the team that Cisse doesn't--namely, his ability to hold the ball up and create opportunities for others. 

Cisse's starting to show some better vision of late but he's still too one-dimensional for the team Rafa's trying to build.

[RAGE UK]

Lastly, when he is given a start its usually on RM and that is not easy for a striker to play in, I mean he made that role his own, and players such as Crouch and Fowler would be really awful if they were in the same situation as Cisse.

No disrespect mate, but a couple of minor quibbles...

1) Cisse has hardly made RM "his own" this season given that Rafa's had Gerrard, Garcia, even Kromkamp there in recent weeks (Cisse didn't even make the bench against the Bitters!)

2) True, Crouch would be pants down the right but he brings something Cisse doesn't to the team.

Here's how Rafa describes it (source):

"When we decided to sign him [Crouch], we knew he was a good professional and a nice boy, and he has shown all those things. I wasn't thinking about the number of goals he was going to score, we wanted a target man to give us more possibilities of holding the ball."

Benitez points to the 3-1 win at Newcastle United a fortnight ago as a perfect example of how Crouch has made a difference since his arrival.

"Before the Newcastle game, with us playing only two days later against Birmingham I was thinking about using another formation," he says.. "We played with three defenders there last season with Milan Baros up front and Steven Gerrard as a second striker, and we could not keep the ball.

This season we did the same thing but with Peter Crouch up front, and he kept the ball and gave us all the things that we wanted."
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Based on some of your other posts I can see that you don't rate Crouch but you have to acknowledge that he adds dimensions to the team that Cisse doesn't--namely, his ability to hold the ball up and create opportunities for others. 

Cisse's starting to show some better vision of late but he's still too one-dimensional for the team Rafa's trying to build.

correct 100%

[Graeme Noble]

Yeah I know what you're saying I just think you are all too harsh on Djibril!

[48-1119859832]

Yeah I know what you're saying I just think you are all too harsh on Djibril!

I don't & I think we are being too lienant on Cisse in all honesty. I mean who-ever said he's a hot prospect for the future and is going to be one of Europe's best needs to consider a career change because the lad has been awful. Ok he doesn't get a full match, he might get twenty minutes or so but in twenty minutes you could quite easily show some sort of good, quality football.

Cisse fails and I believe he's in the wrong sport.

And if Cisse can get into the pro-world football then anyone can.

[Bad Bob]

Yeah I know what you're saying I just think you are all too harsh on Djibril!

I don't & I think we are being too lienant on Cisse in all honesty. I mean who-ever said he's a hot prospect for the future and is going to be one of Europe's best needs to consider a career change because the lad has been awful. Ok he doesn't get a full match, he might get twenty minutes or so but in twenty minutes you could quite easily show some sort of good, quality football.

Cisse fails and I believe he's in the wrong sport.

And if Cisse can get into the pro-world football then anyone can.

That's pretty harsh, mate...

Cisse can be a frustrating character but you don't become top scorer in a major European league and play for the French National Team without having some significant footballing abilities...

FWIW, I have far less trouble with Cisse than with Morientes.  Like Baros before him, Cisse has talent but his play is one-dimensional and he doesn't suit the style of play that Rafa is trying to foster here.  He'll go somewhere else this summer and will probably do quite well for himself (without ever causing us to second guess his sale, also like Baros).

Morientes, on the other hand, was bought by Rafa with the system in mind, which suggests that he has the skills and awareness to succeed here.  The fact that he comes up short week in and week out--and, I'm sorry, two tap-ins do not a revival make--is massively disappointing. 

Unless Rafa can orchestrate a rehabilation of Kewellian proportions, Nando needs to be offloaded while he can still earn us a few bob.

[madred]

Interesting posts about Cisse but i reckon the summer will spell the end for his Liverpool career. Even most of Cisse's biggest critics (me included) still want him to succeed but have seen enough of him to suggest that he is the last in a long line of Gerrard Houlliers flops. He has failed so far to live up to this reputation as being one of europes top strikers and even if he was given a season up front i have serious doubts if he would get near 20 goals a season in the premiership. Even though he produced a great display against West Brom the writings on the wall for him. Au revoir and best of luck.

[Espionage]

Kewell earned the attention that Rafa gave him, Rafa obviously saw an attitude, a player that was worth the effort. Rafa likes footballers, he likes watching beautiful football with movement and intelligence. Cisse is a player with little football brains that knows where the goal is. He can score goals, but if we focus are team around him what would happen? In the premier league/champions league we may have Cisse scoring his 15-20 goals a season but at what cost? maybe a few more than Crouch can do but Crouch brings more.
Also why do people insist that he has not been given a fair go? Rafa hasnt given him a chance as striker?
To these people I ask this. What do you think training is for? Rafa watches him everyday play every day. You think that he hasnt given him a chance to play striker in training?
Have you ever considered that Cisse is a better RM than he is striker(in our system, regardless of players competing for positions)?

If you think that Rafa should abandon his grand master plan and hop on the quick-fix-one-way-Cisse-train to mediocrity than bad luck. Rafa will not let this happen to LFC

YNWA