Liverpool FC Forum

[The Ace1983]

Bavlondon - No, I'm not THE Djibrilliant. Or am I? 

Kop 1892 - Does the fact that Cisse is not starting not make you wonder why? I've always presumed that Rafa saw him, Crouch, Fowler and Nando in training and assessed which were better suited to playing in whichevever match. Taking into account their style of play, their ability, their form and their character. We know that Cisse's style doesn't suit Rafa's ideals. Though his ability is potentially very high, he's never been in form and his character is somewhat questionable. For me, he is fast becoming another one of Houllier's "Could be/Could of been" players. And, in this chase for 2nd, can we afford to give a questionable player an extended run if there is no guarentee of him finding his fleeting form.

Dundalk/Homer - If the British track team want to make a swap and Cisse is willing to take a citizenship test, I say we go for it!   

[puroresu]

Cisse at Axuerre was lethal.  Nando only got 10 goals in the seasn where Cisse got 26.  At Axuerre he was scoring goals in the box, out the box, volleys, headers.  All kinds of goals.  He hasnt fitted into the way LFC play as well as I would of liked however I dont think his had enough minutes to adapt. 

Last year was his 1st season (Which usually takes 6 months for a foriegn player to adapt) in England which only last 13 games and then he suffered a horrific leg break.  This season he hasnt played many consecutive games and the whole speculation over pre-season didnt help one bit as I think Cisse didnt believe the boss backed him.

This season Cisse hasnt played much however when I see him play in a France shirt he seems a totally different player.  Seems a lot more confident and his attitude seems to be a lot better.  Its like he enjoys to get away and play with his national team. 

The French league is a v good league.  Its not mickey mouse and many dont even watch French Football so cant really judge the standard.

[Gareth G]

I understand where people are coming from, but in my opinion it's a viscious circle. Cisse need's to gain confidence, he can only get this by playing game's and scoring goal's, on top of that he feel's the manager doesn't back him. That situation could make the best play bad and that's why I can understand Djibril's frustration, although the outburst are uncalled for - but at the same time, can you ever believe what you read?

I think Cisse is a good lad who is trapped in a bad situation, I think if Rafa start's over with a clean slate and give's Cisse more opportunities in his natural position that he'd bang plenty of goal's in for us.

I find Morientes way more frustrating to watch, I really have seen two year old's with better reaction time's, actually, I'm convinced that if you pulled Morientes' shirt up that you'd find a shell! I have seen some absolute topper through ball's played in for Morientes all season, someone like Cisse could of had a bag full of goal's for the simple fact he ( or someone faster ) would of had clear shot's at goal, but Morientes' sheer lack of speed give's defender's time to catch up ( most cases overtake him ) and put in the block - whereas Cisse would at least get a pop.

Maybe Cisse doesn't have a lot to offer other than pace, but at least it's more than what Morientes can offer. However, I feel Cisse can offer more than just raw pace, some of his finishing I have seen is pure class. His debut goal against Spurs needed lightning fast reaction's, his volley against Anderlecht and also his goal in the return leg were both top quality finishes and that's just a few. I truly beleive in my heart that Cisse could be prolific if givin more chance's, all he need's is that and the manager's backing.

[puroresu]

Many fans seem to forget some of Fowler's performances under Houllier.  Fowler was not backed by Houllier and he knew he didnt have the Managers support.  In turn this resulted in many performances from Fowler where he looked dis-interested, unfit and not sharp at all.

[Gareth G]

Exactly mate, thing's like that wreak havoc on player's, I mean, if the manager doesn't back him, who will?

I'm prepared to get an absolute bollocking about my opinion, but I won't change it because that's what I believe.

[puroresu]

At Axuerre his manager was like his best friend. (best man at his wedding I think) and for France he clearly feels he is supported by the national coach and u see a more confident player.

[kopite]

Isnt Cisse still second top scorer this season or what . I feel he should be given more games with either Nando or Crouch or fowler because we need some pace up front . he frightens every defence with his pace and with the heading ability or Crouch and Nando thy could pick him out . He just needs the confidence because he has proved that he can score goals .

[parchpea]

Cisse or Morientes. Thats not much of a choice. Morientes has lost what he had and is too slow. Cisse is fast but cannot play the game. We can switch and mix and match but the simple fact is we only have two forwards worth picking and they are Fowler and Crouch. Back on the direct line of the thread, Cisse is an abysmal player period. How all concerned must wish they could turn back the clock, £14million ouch!   

[the_red_alonso]

The fact is I think Cisse should be given a good run of starts to build up his confidence ,may be he could start banging in the goals.
But on the other side I'm not the manager of Liverpool FC.& TBH it's true Cisse has pace-only.
I have sympathy for him,he loves the club,he may score goals,but the thing is he might not fit in the system & the style of play Rafa likes.His attitude ,one might argue its due to the ill-treatment from manager,has been kind of arrogant at times.
Rafa wants the team to work for each other including the strikers too & that's where Cisse misses out.
With all the goal-scoring records he had in France,with all his pace,he still can't do what Rafa wants out of him .His work -rate is very low & creatively he lacks everything.Sometimes it is not ur physical attributes but ur mental ability & intelligence that can work wonders for u.
Still Cisse has it in him,may be he should look at Garcia & think------- This guy gives the ball so easily at times but then atleast Garcia can come up with something so special that everything he does wrong before that point looks irrelevant.
May be Cisse can produce a couple of magic moments from the limited opportunities he gets & then he can pick up from there.Its all about confidence ,its all in ur head.
YNWA

[Big Niall]

Best case scenario, is that he has a good world cup and some fool (another GH) buys him for £10m.

No point in selling before WC as he has done nothing since he got here.

[The Ace1983]

Best case scenario, is that he has a good world cup and some fool (another GH) buys him for £10m.

No point in selling before WC as he has done nothing since he got here.

No worries there then. Houllier's due to have another one of his "Isn't Igor Biscan a great player" phases so expect to see Cisse at Lyon some time soon. 

[GOAT]

  yeah that would be hilarious! GH after buying cisse for 20million: "ya he is a good football, he score some goals"

[Rafa D]

Djibril Cisse has been dropped by France for the squad for the forthcoming friendly with Slovakia next Wednesday.

The striker has failed to secure a regular first team place at Liverpool this season and has often looked disappointing when appearing as a substitute.

France coach Raymond Domenech has instead opted for Manchester United' Luis Saha to lead the attack, with former Red Nicolas Anelka also named in the squad.

[48-1119859832]

Isnt Cisse still second top scorer this season or what . I feel he should be given more games with either Nando or Crouch or fowler because we need some pace up front . he frightens every defence with his pace and with the heading ability or Crouch and Nando thy could pick him out . He just needs the confidence because he has proved that he can score goals .

He has proved he can score goals in the French league. Whilst he has frightening pace it means very little if you don't use it properly and that's just it. He doesn't use his pace properly. And his heading ability is quite poor and the accuracy on his shooting is somewhat questionable.

However I suppose giving him a full 90 minutes against someone then perhaps he can change minds but I don't think Rafa wants him here, so that is more than unlikely.

[RAFABENITEZ]

I disagree with this thing that Cisse has had chances, he hasnt really, if a striker is playing for 10 mins now and again, what do you expect when the one or two chances he gets are either passes to him, or he micontrols them? hes obviously gonna show his frustration. Atleast heis showing he cares, unfotunately he doesnt fit with what Rafa wants so hel be gone   I still think if we played him for 10 90 mins on the bounce hed outscore te other forwards easily. We cant make judgement on a player we hardly see anymore.