Chelsea(3) v liverpool(1) - 2nd leg - Tuesday - 7.45pm - the comeback?

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Postby JC_81 » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:42 pm

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GYBS wrote:yeah would of preffered agger definatly but no one let the team down tonight

Agger is just coming back to fitness, at Anfield against blackburn its worth the risk, against chelsea at there "shed" of a stadium its not. Besides, id rather have him fit for the arsenal game. Roll on the league !

your prob right mate about agger - hopefully he will continue to play for rest of season now .



and redrover it was on itv news

I don't think leaving Agger out was a footballing decision tonight.  I think he played the Blackburn game in preparation for playing tonight, particularly because Skrtel was very poor against Chelsea at Anfield.

But once again there were quotes in the weekend papers from Agger about the new contract which he isn't signing.  I think that may have been something to do with why he didn't play tonight.  Pure speculation, I have absolutely no inside info on this, but that's my hunch.
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Postby freddies dead » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:42 pm

GYBS wrote:yeah would of preffered agger definatly but no one let the team down tonight

:no  wtf

on what basis
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Postby RedBlood » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:42 pm

THE REF WAS SHOCKING TONIGHT AND LET CHELSEA BACK INTO THE GAME WITH SOME VERY BAD DECISSIONS, DID ANYBODY NOTICE CHELSEAS LAST GOAL CAME AFTER DROGBA PUSHED LUCAS WHILST HE WENT UP TO WIN THE HEADER IT WAS A BLATANT FOUL AND THE REF DID NOTHING WHEN CHELSEA PLAYERS HAD BEEN LITERALLY THROWING THEMSELVES TO THE FLOOR ALL GAME AND GETTING REWARDS INCLUDING THERE SECOND GOAL
THE LADS DID WELL TONIGHT AND WERE VERY UNLUCKY THEY HAD A GUTLESS REF PLAYING AGAINST THEM, CHELSEA SHOWED JUST WHY EVERYBODY HATES THEM, THEY ARE A CHEAT TEAM AND DONT CARE HOW THEY WIN
DROGBA FOR ME HAS EDGED AHEAD OF RONALDO IN PLAYERS I HATE THE MOST


PS JUT NOTICED IM WRITTING IN CAPS BUT IM TOO :censored: AND TOO GUTTED TO CHANGE IT
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Postby only me » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:43 pm

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only me wrote:The most amazing team ever no doubt ! Almost a game for the ages !

However Rafa for me didn't do his best to give us a fighting chance - his starting line up was discussed no need  to repeat but then even after we were up 2 he did nothing to try and get it done - we scored but we werent that focused and attacking and he should have started the 2nd half with more attacking skill and what killed me that he gave up on the game when he replaced Torres very disappointing - our lads have more then one heart in their chest today our coach did nothing to influence the game.

Couldn't DISAGREE more if I tried.

Rafa's tactics had victory within reach. Individual errors cost us the game not Rafa's tactics.

spot on . rafa went for it - his players went for it - in the end just wasnt too be . poor defending in the first leg is what did us in the end - but the lads and rafa did us proud


No problem mate care to explain?

I haven't got the smallest of complaint for our lads they did their best but Rafa? Going for it means puting your most skillfull players when you need them - we needed more attacking quality in the beginning of the game and when we were up 2 we needed more he just settled for chance ,unacceptable.

well surely as we went two nil up in the first half then rafa got his tactics spot on when we needed goals - reira was off form - babel has been off form all season and gerrard was injured so what else could rafa off done ? we scored 4 goals - how more attacking do you want to be ? we lost goals down to individual errors thoroughout both ames - cant blame the manager for that

come on man the first goals we scored were a result of tactics? you know they weren't - yes we pressed high but didn't create any chances but one (Torres) we got those 2 goals from set pieces no special tactics.

We (and i mean Rafa) should have taken this rare moment of leading at the bridge and push on with better players - to rely on set pieces for the rest of the game was a mistake.
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Postby GYBS » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:43 pm

No one can put one single bit of blame on rafa for any of this .

i think that is wild specualtion John but who knwos
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Postby woof woof ! » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:44 pm

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burjennio wrote:I think Pepe needs a look at himself for the 1st AND 2nd goals. Alexs Free Kick was hardly in the top corner and Reina seemed to be out of position for it.

Think I'd agree with that. For Alex's goal Pepe seemed so busy organising the defence that he had no time to settle himself before the kick was taken.

The Drogba "goal" was just a complete mare.



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Come on woof, are you serious mate?

No way can Reina be blamed for Alex's goal, it was a freak.  He's good at blasting free kicks, but never in his career will he catch one as sweet as that.  It wasn't right in the corner, but even if Reina got a hand to that it was still ending up in the net.

The first goal was Reina's fault for sure.  Bad mistake.  IMO it changed the game, because Chelseas got a second wind when that went in.  But hey, he's allowed one mistake a season.  Look at Cech - he made half a dozen mistakes in one game tonight.  Reina is second only to Casillas in world football right now imo - just a shame for him that they both play for the same national team.

Hold up John, I'm not having a go at Reina, I am saying that he was giving instructions left right and center and didn't seem to give himself time to "settle" for the the free kick. Maybe I'll have to watch it again mate, but looked to me like it wasn't in the corner, Pepe almost got a hand to it as it was, I'm thinking if he'd have been properly set Reina would have stopped that ball no matter how hard it was struck.
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Postby GYBS » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:44 pm

filcombesacant wrote:
GYBS wrote:yeah would of preffered agger definatly but no one let the team down tonight

:no  wtf

on what basis

umm which bit ?
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Postby freddies dead » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:44 pm

only me wrote:
GYBS wrote:
only me wrote:
GYBS wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:
only me wrote:The most amazing team ever no doubt ! Almost a game for the ages !

However Rafa for me didn't do his best to give us a fighting chance - his starting line up was discussed no need  to repeat but then even after we were up 2 he did nothing to try and get it done - we scored but we werent that focused and attacking and he should have started the 2nd half with more attacking skill and what killed me that he gave up on the game when he replaced Torres very disappointing - our lads have more then one heart in their chest today our coach did nothing to influence the game.

Couldn't DISAGREE more if I tried.

Rafa's tactics had victory within reach. Individual errors cost us the game not Rafa's tactics.

spot on . rafa went for it - his players went for it - in the end just wasnt too be . poor defending in the first leg is what did us in the end - but the lads and rafa did us proud


No problem mate care to explain?

I haven't got the smallest of complaint for our lads they did their best but Rafa? Going for it means puting your most skillfull players when you need them - we needed more attacking quality in the beginning of the game and when we were up 2 we needed more he just settled for chance ,unacceptable.

well surely as we went two nil up in the first half then rafa got his tactics spot on when we needed goals - reira was off form - babel has been off form all season and gerrard was injured so what else could rafa off done ? we scored 4 goals - how more attacking do you want to be ? we lost goals down to individual errors thoroughout both ames - cant blame the manager for that

come on man the first goals we scored were a result of tactics? you know they weren't - yes we pressed high but didn't create any chances but one (Torres) we got those 2 goals from set pieces no special tactics.

We (and i mean Rafa) should have taken this rare moment of leading at the bridge and push on with better players - to rely on set pieces for the rest of the game was a mistake.

oh dear you mean you arent joking    :suspect:
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Postby RedBlood » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:45 pm

individual errors and a poor ref are not the fault of the manager
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Postby GYBS » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:45 pm

no he isnt joking
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Postby Kharhaz » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:45 pm

lakes10 wrote:come on you lot, lets not star it all again, i have not posted or even been on here since just after the last CL game.

yes we made mistake and yes some of them are down to Rafa but for once i would say we need to risk it and thats wht he did, going there to get 3 goals was always going to be hard and yes it will leave you open at the back, i the line up was strange but no can not say it did not work well in the first half.
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No complaints about rafa, the team he picked or there performance. I wanted a respectable result and got a massive performance instead. It may make me sound lame but I do really think the ref messed this one up for us. 29 fouls and just 2 yellow cards? how can you explain that? how can the ref explain that? and yet just 14 fouls for chelsea and they get 3 yellow cards. Fortunately, if chelsea play these tactics against barcelona they will not only meet there match in that department but be bettered.
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Postby freddies dead » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:45 pm

GYBS wrote:
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GYBS wrote:yeah would of preffered agger definatly but no one let the team down tonight

:no  wtf

on what basis

umm which bit ?

you wanted agger to play why ?
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Postby JC_81 » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:46 pm

RedBlood wrote:THE REF WAS SHOCKING TONIGHT AND LET CHELSEA BACK INTO THE GAME WITH SOME VERY BAD DECISSIONS, DID ANYBODY NOTICE CHELSEAS LAST GOAL CAME AFTER DROGBA PUSHED LUCAS WHILST HE WENT UP TO WIN THE HEADER IT WAS A BLATANT FOUL AND THE REF DID NOTHING WHEN CHELSEA PLAYERS HAD BEEN LITERALLY THROWING THEMSELVES TO THE FLOOR ALL GAME AND GETTING REWARDS INCLUDING THERE SECOND GOAL
THE LADS DID WELL TONIGHT AND WERE VERY UNLUCKY THEY HAD A GUTLESS REF PLAYING AGAINST THEM, CHELSEA SHOWED JUST WHY EVERYBODY HATES THEM, THEY ARE A CHEAT TEAM AND DONT CARE HOW THEY WIN
DROGBA FOR ME HAS EDGED AHEAD OF RONALDO IN PLAYERS I HATE THE MOST


PS JUT NOTICED IM WRITTING IN CAPS BUT IM TOO :censored: AND TOO GUTTED TO CHANGE IT

You can't seriously blame the ref for this can you??

Yes he was a frustrating ref, but equally for both sides.  He let absolutely no contact go without a free kick.  Can you honestly say that the penalty was a clear penalty?  By the letter of the law it should be, but you have to be extremely lucky to have one of those given.

He was a poor ref but overall I don't think it benefitted either side, things evened out.
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Postby burjennio » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:46 pm

who thought Benitez got it wrong tonight? LOL

Scored 4 goals at Stamford bridge without our best player and if not for one bad goalkeeping error and some very shoddy gamesmanship from the opposition that the officals sadly fell for w'ed have went through to the semis I am 100% sure of that. 2 down at half time Chelsea were always going to come out strong 2nd half and the tactic Im pretty sure would have been to control them for 10-15mins then go for the 3rd goal. sadly Pepe leaked because if he hadnt they looked LOST
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Postby GYBS » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:46 pm

filcombesacant wrote:
GYBS wrote:
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GYBS wrote:yeah would of preffered agger definatly but no one let the team down tonight

:no  wtf

on what basis

umm which bit ?

you wanted agger to play why ?

cause i rate him higher than skrtel mate - think he offers us a lot more at the back .
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