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Postby A.B. » Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:04 pm

How do you expect us to buy Ronaldinho,Adriano and Shevchenko? Do you think that Parry and Moores can pull that money out of their ar$es?

The last time I checked, a Russian mobster filled with money owns Chelsea not Liverpool FC.
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Postby Ciggy » Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:23 pm

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The Canadian Red Army wrote:i think you should just quit now before you get your  kicked by the members of this forum, for posting some of the dumbest things weve seen in months.

Jaysus! I'm finding hard to believe the level of down right nastiness to someone who only wants Liverpool on top of the world..

Not being funny Poolinc but CRA has to be one of the most inoffensive members on this entire forum, I think you where wrong to quote his statement mate TBH.
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Postby drummerphil » Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:34 pm

HE CAN QUOTE MINE........I Still say the bloke you started this is an idiot.
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Postby drummerphil » Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:50 pm

actually i take that back i understand your passionate about the club and want us to compete,its just the players you have mentioned or similar are too damn expensive.Its ok saying Liverpool should have the pull and an attraction for a player,but unless we can pay whichever club, the price they want.....its a pipe dream.,
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Postby Poolinc. » Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:58 pm

A.B. wrote:How do you expect us to buy Ronaldinho,Adriano and Shevchenko? Do you think that Parry and Moores can pull that money out of their ar$es?

The last time I checked, a Russian mobster filled with money owns Chelsea not Liverpool FC.

Well now that it's official, and the whole world knows what we have always known, that Liverpool are the best team on the planet....maybe the marketing team at Anfield could get the finger out and actually market the bloody team all over the world???
I mean how many Adriano Liverpool shirts could we flog in Brazil alone?? I'm no marketer, but I'd imagine we'd shift quite a few world wide!
Also, now that Stanley Park seems to be floundering, there's a possibilty of diverting a few bob! No?
If we have no benefactor, ala Chelsea, then we gotta take advantage of our official status to raise funds!!
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Postby Poolinc. » Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:05 am

drummerphil wrote:actually i take that back i understand your passionate about the club and want us to compete,its just the players you have mentioned or similar are too damn expensive.Its ok saying Liverpool should have the pull and an attraction for a player,but unless we can pay whichever club, the price they want.....its a pipe dream.,

Respect mate! :buttrock

But just imagine this? If i had asked you at half time in Istanbul, what was more likely? We'd win the Eurpean Cup on the night, or sign Adriano within 12 months?? Well dreaming and believing in the impossible is what makes Liverpool, and it's supporters, the best in the world! I know it's financially difficult, but, Hell, if we can't dream......
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Postby A.B. » Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:17 am

Well now that it's official, and the whole world knows what we have always known, that Liverpool are the best team on the planet....maybe the marketing team at Anfield could get the finger out and actually market the bloody team all over the world???

I mean how many Adriano Liverpool shirts could we flog in Brazil alone?? I'm no marketer, but I'd imagine we'd shift quite a few world wide!
Also, now that Stanley Park seems to be floundering, there's a possibilty of diverting a few bob! No?
If we have no benefactor, ala Chelsea, then we gotta take advantage of our official status to raise funds!!


So that makes us more popular but still doesn't increase our bankroll by millions and millions overnight. Face it, we don't have the finances to buy such players. Marketing alone can't get you the money Chelsea have. Only Chelsea imo can afford to buy all those players you've mentioned, but even though they can afford them none of those players really want to join them.

And to sell Adriano shirts, you first have to have the money to buy him. Money is not made as easily as you think it is, it takes a hell of alot more than marketing the club to be able to afford a couple of 100 thousand pounds per week per player, possibly more.

During the summer [whether it's true or not] Chelsea made a bid of 40 million pounds for Sheva. I don't know about you, but thats hell of a lot more than we can afford for just one player, thats more than our overall budget we've had in the past two summers.
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Postby The Canadian Red Army » Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:22 am

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Poolinc. wrote:
The Canadian Red Army wrote:i think you should just quit now before you get your  kicked by the members of this forum, for posting some of the dumbest things weve seen in months.

Jaysus! I'm finding hard to believe the level of down right nastiness to someone who only wants Liverpool on top of the world..

Not being funny Poolinc but CRA has to be one of the most inoffensive members on this entire forum, I think you where wrong to quote his statement mate TBH.

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Postby Poolinc. » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:11 pm

A.B. wrote:
Well now that it's official, and the whole world knows what we have always known, that Liverpool are the best team on the planet....maybe the marketing team at Anfield could get the finger out and actually market the bloody team all over the world???

I mean how many Adriano Liverpool shirts could we flog in Brazil alone?? I'm no marketer, but I'd imagine we'd shift quite a few world wide!
Also, now that Stanley Park seems to be floundering, there's a possibilty of diverting a few bob! No?
If we have no benefactor, ala Chelsea, then we gotta take advantage of our official status to raise funds!!


So that makes us more popular but still doesn't increase our bankroll by millions and millions overnight. Face it, we don't have the finances to buy such players. Marketing alone can't get you the money Chelsea have. Only Chelsea imo can afford to buy all those players you've mentioned, but even though they can afford them none of those players really want to join them.

And to sell Adriano shirts, you first have to have the money to buy him. Money is not made as easily as you think it is, it takes a hell of alot more than marketing the club to be able to afford a couple of 100 thousand pounds per week per player, possibly more.

During the summer [whether it's true or not] Chelsea made a bid of 40 million pounds for Sheva. I don't know about you, but thats hell of a lot more than we can afford for just one player, thats more than our overall budget we've had in the past two summers.

Well A.B. I've read quite a few of your many excellent posts and I have nought but respect for your opion, even when at variance with my own.
I don't want to get bogged down on this but you have asked the question about raising money for Adriano (or any of his class, albeit, there isn't many). Again, I might be wrong (and I'm sure plenty will tell me if I am) but what's wrong with using him as a type of "business plan." 
Down to local bank... we need a loan to buy this guy who costs £40m. We expect to raise £Xm by flogging his shirt in every corner of the world! We expect his exceptional talent will help us win the Premiership, the Champion's League, therefore greatly increasing our advertising revenue, (not to mention tv income, etc.) by £Ym. Should we sell him again in a number of years, we expect to get £Zm. We'll also raise several millions by selling half a dozen players who are not up to the standard demanded at Anfield!
Voila! £40m ergo Adriano!!
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Postby Effes » Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:51 pm

Poolinc. wrote:
A.B. wrote:
Well now that it's official, and the whole world knows what we have always known, that Liverpool are the best team on the planet....maybe the marketing team at Anfield could get the finger out and actually market the bloody team all over the world???

I mean how many Adriano Liverpool shirts could we flog in Brazil alone?? I'm no marketer, but I'd imagine we'd shift quite a few world wide!
Also, now that Stanley Park seems to be floundering, there's a possibilty of diverting a few bob! No?
If we have no benefactor, ala Chelsea, then we gotta take advantage of our official status to raise funds!!


So that makes us more popular but still doesn't increase our bankroll by millions and millions overnight. Face it, we don't have the finances to buy such players. Marketing alone can't get you the money Chelsea have. Only Chelsea imo can afford to buy all those players you've mentioned, but even though they can afford them none of those players really want to join them.

And to sell Adriano shirts, you first have to have the money to buy him. Money is not made as easily as you think it is, it takes a hell of alot more than marketing the club to be able to afford a couple of 100 thousand pounds per week per player, possibly more.

During the summer [whether it's true or not] Chelsea made a bid of 40 million pounds for Sheva. I don't know about you, but thats hell of a lot more than we can afford for just one player, thats more than our overall budget we've had in the past two summers.

Well A.B. I've read quite a few of your many excellent posts and I have nought but respect for your opion, even when at variance with my own.
I don't want to get bogged down on this but you have asked the question about raising money for Adriano (or any of his class, albeit, there isn't many). Again, I might be wrong (and I'm sure plenty will tell me if I am) but what's wrong with using him as a type of "business plan." 
Down to local bank... we need a loan to buy this guy who costs £40m. We expect to raise £Xm by flogging his shirt in every corner of the world! We expect his exceptional talent will help us win the Premiership, the Champion's League, therefore greatly increasing our advertising revenue, (not to mention tv income, etc.) by £Ym. Should we sell him again in a number of years, we expect to get £Zm. We'll also raise several millions by selling half a dozen players who are not up to the standard demanded at Anfield!
Voila! £40m ergo Adriano!!

Gosh!
You've got this football lark completely sussed - what a bravo idea!

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Postby bigmick » Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:07 pm

Pool Inc I can see where you're coming from but it's like the Peter Risdale school of financial management has been reborn. It doesn't wash mate. Buying a couple of players doesn't assure you of success, living completely beyond your means does assure you of ultimate disaster though. I'm sort of with you in your frustration that we seem to miss out on the very best players, but alas we simply can't compete financially with some and that's a fact, however difficult to swallow. As we showed at times last season though, we can compete on the football pitch which is all that matters after all.
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Postby Poolinc. » Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:09 pm

Effes wrote:
Poolinc. wrote:
A.B. wrote:
Well now that it's official, and the whole world knows what we have always known, that Liverpool are the best team on the planet....maybe the marketing team at Anfield could get the finger out and actually market the bloody team all over the world???

I mean how many Adriano Liverpool shirts could we flog in Brazil alone?? I'm no marketer, but I'd imagine we'd shift quite a few world wide!
Also, now that Stanley Park seems to be floundering, there's a possibilty of diverting a few bob! No?
If we have no benefactor, ala Chelsea, then we gotta take advantage of our official status to raise funds!!


So that makes us more popular but still doesn't increase our bankroll by millions and millions overnight. Face it, we don't have the finances to buy such players. Marketing alone can't get you the money Chelsea have. Only Chelsea imo can afford to buy all those players you've mentioned, but even though they can afford them none of those players really want to join them.

And to sell Adriano shirts, you first have to have the money to buy him. Money is not made as easily as you think it is, it takes a hell of alot more than marketing the club to be able to afford a couple of 100 thousand pounds per week per player, possibly more.

During the summer [whether it's true or not] Chelsea made a bid of 40 million pounds for Sheva. I don't know about you, but thats hell of a lot more than we can afford for just one player, thats more than our overall budget we've had in the past two summers.

Well A.B. I've read quite a few of your many excellent posts and I have nought but respect for your opion, even when at variance with my own.
I don't want to get bogged down on this but you have asked the question about raising money for Adriano (or any of his class, albeit, there isn't many). Again, I might be wrong (and I'm sure plenty will tell me if I am) but what's wrong with using him as a type of "business plan." 
Down to local bank... we need a loan to buy this guy who costs £40m. We expect to raise £Xm by flogging his shirt in every corner of the world! We expect his exceptional talent will help us win the Premiership, the Champion's League, therefore greatly increasing our advertising revenue, (not to mention tv income, etc.) by £Ym. Should we sell him again in a number of years, we expect to get £Zm. We'll also raise several millions by selling half a dozen players who are not up to the standard demanded at Anfield!
Voila! £40m ergo Adriano!!

Gosh!
You've got this football lark completely sussed - what a bravo idea!

*shakes head in despair*

How easy it is to be cynical :bowdown   My, my, a very impressive informative response. I salute you!! And that's an excellent suggestion from you! Err... what was your suggestion again, to improve Liverpool, etc., by the way?? I might be misguided but at least I'm trying to make positive suggestions instead of sniping from the sideline....
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Postby Poolinc. » Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:13 pm

bigmick wrote:Pool Inc I can see where you're coming from but it's like the Peter Risdale school of financial management has been reborn. It doesn't wash mate. Buying a couple of players doesn't assure you of success, living completely beyond your means does assure you of ultimate disaster though. I'm sort of with you in your frustration that we seem to miss out on the very best players, but alas we simply can't compete financially with some and that's a fact, however difficult to swallow. As we showed at times last season though, we can compete on the football pitch which is all that matters after all.

Yes Mick, I think you're right! It is frustration at the disappointment at the performance of some of more recent signings! It drives me daft when they don't go out and die for Liverpool fc.... Like everybody else, I want the good old days back, and when i see players not giving their all :angry:

Jaysus, I'd rob a bank to help buy the best for the Pool :buttrock
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Postby bigmick » Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:20 pm

Poolinc. wrote:Jaysus, I'd rob a bank to help buy the best for the Pool :buttrock

Alas even this approach has had it's day mate. They have these sofisticated systems (so I'm told) and it's not uncommon these days for Bank robbers to barely have enough for a Vauxhall Conference reservist once the ill-gotton gains have been "divvied" out. What with "grasses" and various other "slags" waiting to drop you in it there's no future in it anymore. I really must give the old Uk Gold generally and "The Sweeney" in particular a miss from now on.  :D
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Postby Poolinc. » Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:22 pm

bigmick wrote:
Poolinc. wrote:Jaysus, I'd rob a bank to help buy the best for the Pool :buttrock

Alas even this approach has had it's day mate. They have these sofisticated systems (so I'm told) and it's not uncommon these days for Bank robbers to barely have enough for a Vauxhall Conference reservist once the ill-gotton gains have been "divvied" out. What with "grasses" and various other "slags" waiting to drop you in it there's no future in it anymore. I really must give the old Uk Gold generally and "The Sweeney" in particular a miss from now on.  :D

Perhaps the lads who did the northern bank have a few squid knocking around :eyebrow
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