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Postby LittleHobo » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:28 pm

i agree the clock is ticking

mainly down to the fact that after 4 years we still look like we lack 3 or 4 first teamers

and compare us to rafas valencia is like comparing pele to carlton palmer
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Postby Woollyback » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:28 pm

bring back glen hysen, even he had better hair than voronin
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Postby Dundalk » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:29 pm

LittleHobo wrote:carlton palmer

Now there was a player  :nod
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:29 pm

nobybob wrote:Leon we all want to get behind the team, but does this me we cant criticize, point out were we feel we are going wrong or fear the worst for our next game after such a sh-te performance ??

Criticise away.

I did already and it made me feel better.

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However I will pull anyone up who posts shi.te like Rafa out, Rafa has one game or refuses to point the finger at the players.
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Postby puroresu » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:29 pm

gato_busta wrote:If I understand correctly, Crouch should have started the game even if many if not most people here think "he is not good enough and should be sold as soon as the tranfer window opens"? I think its incredible how fast some people change their point of view around here. The main problem at the moment is we don't have the depth we believe we have. With Xabi and Agger out at the moment, Rafa can't really change the team much at all. Hyppia is past his best, he's a great guy but we really are missing Agger. Mascherano is a great defensive midfielder but that is all he offers, as well as Sissoko. Leiva is basically Gerrard Jr. and without Torres, our strikers are not a threat at all. We need Xabi back to put order in midfield and to be able to vary our game since all our opposition know what to expect from us. We have not changed tactics in a long time, in fact we are not able to. What ever happened to Rafas 4-5-1 we used to see when he came in as manager, or the 3-5-2 formation which usually worked for these types of games? I really want all of our players to be available again, and to be honest, Im hoping Rafa starts rotating the team as he used to and not player for player as he is doing now.

but I thought the depth was supposed to be there now.  Rafa has spent his money and bought this players.  He signed Kuyt, crouch and vorinin.  He signed Mascherano and sissoko.  He signed pennant.  He signed babel and seems to have no real idea with what to do with him
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Postby Ola Mr Benitez » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:29 pm

LittleHobo wrote:i agree the clock is ticking

mainly down to the fact that after 4 years we still look like we lack 3 or 4 first teamers

and compare us to rafas valencia is like comparing pele to carlton palmer

Pele was over rated and Calrton Palmer was just unlucky a big team didn't buy him..
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:30 pm

Wilhelmsson wrote:You have to wonder just how long Rafa has left at the club before he is sacked.

No I dont.

Cus unlike you, who it appears has been watching football for 20 minutes and prefers rugger I know this club, the fans and the management team do not think that 2 defeats in 15 games is clock ticking time.
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Postby puroresu » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:30 pm

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puroresu wrote:The CB situation is a joke.  Criminal that another CB wasnt signed in the summer.

The efforts to do so where evident.

what pinning the hopes on heinze and leaving it so late that there was not enough time to get someone else.
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Postby Ola Mr Benitez » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:31 pm

Lets buy this McGeeney bloke from Celtic.. he looks good!!
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Postby Sabre » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:31 pm

gato_busta wrote:If I understand correctly, Crouch should have started the game even if many if not most people here think "he is not good enough and should be sold as soon as the tranfer window opens"? I think its incredible how fast some people change their point of view around here. The main problem at the moment is we don't have the depth we believe we have. With Xabi and Agger out at the moment, Rafa can't really change the team much at all. Hyppia is past his best, he's a great guy but we really are missing Agger. Mascherano is a great defensive midfielder but that is all he offers, as well as Sissoko. Leiva is basically Gerrard Jr. and without Torres, our strikers are not a threat at all. We need Xabi back to put order in midfield and to be able to vary our game since all our opposition know what to expect from us. We have not changed tactics in a long time, in fact we are not able to. What ever happened to Rafas 4-5-1 we used to see when he came in as manager, or the 3-5-2 formation which usually worked for these types of games? I really want all of our players to be available again, and to be honest, Im hoping Rafa starts rotating the team as he used to and not player for player as he is doing now.

I agree this.

Good post.

I'll only add that there are things to improve bar this men, we're scoring goals in set pieces situations, we're losing balls that we didn't use to lose when we play at our standard form.
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Postby Dundalk » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:32 pm

Is anyone going to ring Steve Staunton ??  :idea
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:34 pm

puroresu wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:
puroresu wrote:The CB situation is a joke.  Criminal that another CB wasnt signed in the summer.

The efforts to do so where evident.

what pinning the hopes on heinze and leaving it so late that there was not enough time to get someone else.

Despite what some people might think on here the newspapers are not the only sources of club news.

I prefer to speak to people who are connected with the club than to read the Daily Rag.
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Postby puroresu » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:35 pm

Ola Mr Benitez wrote:Lets buy this McGeeney bloke from Celtic.. he looks good!!

McGeady.  Bags of skill.  Has every trick in the book.  final ball needs to improve and needs more consistency but very talented.  Got a NIKE Boot deal at 13 that lad.
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Postby dosserboy » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:35 pm

Ola Mr Benitez wrote:Reina - unlucky, no chance for any of the goals
Finnan - Poor distribution, not his usual standard
Carra - Immense again, covering for poor Sami
Hypia - unfortunately looks like he has played too many games - some rotation needed :p
Risse - Didn't do anything
Pennant - Looked good to start`but ran out of ideas
Gerrard - Gave the ball away too much but WHAT A GOAL
Masherano - Looked tired
Babbel - Very enthusiastic, but no end product
Kuyt - Was everywhere except where he needed to be .. in the box
Vronin - Looked out of his depth

Crouch - Needed longer, caused problems when he was on
Yossi - Looked lively, good on the ball, well balanced played well

Thats what I thought

100 percent agree with you, also thought Lucas looked good when he came on but Benny boy looked the most dangerous. Just hope Torres is fit and plays up front with Crouchie against Arsenal, Benny boy should start and if alonso is not 100% fit I would put in Lucas to play along side Gerrard, then we might see some proper chances created. We need to kick start our season again with a good attacking performance, I'm :censored: off with our centre midfield having a strong defensive mentality, lets have some f**king forward drive in there! (just like we did in the last five minutes tonight!!)
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Postby Dundalk » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:37 pm

puroresu wrote:
Ola Mr Benitez wrote:Lets buy this McGeeney bloke from Celtic.. he looks good!!

McGeady.  Bags of skill.  Has every trick in the book.  final ball needs to improve and needs more consistency but very talented.  Got a NIKE Boot deal at 13 that lad.

He is SHITE. He plays for Ireland as well and believe you me if you think Diouf was bad wait till you see this clown.

All hype, no product.
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