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[destro]

Hes got Pace a Powerfull shot and poor control and more often than not makes the wrong decision .........Cisse

[aCe']

I think with the right coach he can potentially turn out good... Rafa doesnt seem all that interested in man management and seems more of a tactician than a coach who'd take time to train players individually..
You just know that under a Ferguson, Wenger or in a smaller club where he's the main man he'd become a much better player..
Rafa likes to get the most of his players by playing them in the right position or giving them the right instructions... Babel needs alot more than that imo... he needs guidance and needs alot of fine tuning to become a better player...

For now he quite simly isnt good enough to start... even as a sub i cant say that he'd make an impact in most of the games he'd come on.... in a perfect world we'd loan him out to a smaller club in the league or a Ajax sort of club where he'd start regularly and probably improve as a player in a year or two... That being said our financial situation means that atm, if he isnt happy with his role in the club, the best solution for both parties would be to get rid for as much as we can get and wish the lad all the best...

[Boxscarf]

Babel is wasted at Liverpool; he needs to go to a club that plays total football. I was surprised when he came to us, he would be ace at a team like Arsenal or Barcelona. We might have to sell him now are facing a bleak future.

[tubby]

I think with the right coach he can potentially turn out good... Rafa doesnt seem all that interested in man management and seems more of a tactician than a coach who'd take time to train players individually..
You just know that under a Ferguson, Wenger or in a smaller club where he's the main man he'd become a much better player..
Rafa likes to get the most of his players by playing them in the right position or giving them the right instructions... Babel needs alot more than that imo... he needs guidance and needs alot of fine tuning to become a better player...

For now he quite simly isnt good enough to start... even as a sub i cant say that he'd make an impact in most of the games he'd come on.... in a perfect world we'd loan him out to a smaller club in the league or a Ajax sort of club where he'd start regularly and probably improve as a player in a year or two... That being said our financial situation means that atm, if he isnt happy with his role in the club, the best solution for both parties would be to get rid for as much as we can get and wish the lad all the best...

I dont know about that mate. Look at when he came in that first season. He made people like Biscan look good and he has done a great job with Kuyt, Stevie and Arbeloa.

[Boxscarf]

Rafa is a decent manager, nothing more. It’s taken him £100million to assemble a decent side that can challenge for the league for more than two months, apart from the Champs and the FA Cup, he’s done nowt!

[NANNY RED]

Rafa is a decent manager, nothing more. It’s taken him £100million to assemble a decent side that can challenge for the league for more than two months, apart from the Champs and the FA Cup, he’s done nowt!

  Best laugh in ages

[tubby]

He has wasted a lot of money Nanny but if he ever won the league or CL again he should be knighted!

[KennyisGod....still]

Rafa is a decent manager, nothing more. It’s taken him £100million to assemble a decent side that can challenge for the league for more than two months, apart from the Champs and the FA Cup, he’s done nowt!

And you were expectin what exactly? specially considrin what Rafa inherited?

I see the words dick and head comin together...... 

[Boxscarf]

He should have at least won a Carling Cup and a Premiership. His formations and tactics let him down at times. He needs Paco Herrera, he is an ace of spades at times of need man!

[KennyisGod....still]

He should have at least won a Carling Cup and a Premiership. His formations and tactics let him down at times. He needs Paco Herrera, he is an ace of spades at times of need man!

  I swear if some people here were taken seriosly you'd never sleep at night!

You on some 'Care in the community' scheme? ? ?

[Boxscarf]

Is that for people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Bipolar Disorder? If so, then maybe.

[NANNY RED]

He should have at least won a Carling Cup and a Premiership. His formations and tactics let him down at times. He needs Paco Herrera, he is an ace of spades at times of need man!

  I swear if some people here were taken seriosly you'd never sleep at night!

You on some 'Care in the community' scheme? ? ?

I think hes just got out of Rainhill not a clue whats going on

[aCe']

I think with the right coach he can potentially turn out good... Rafa doesnt seem all that interested in man management and seems more of a tactician than a coach who'd take time to train players individually..
You just know that under a Ferguson, Wenger or in a smaller club where he's the main man he'd become a much better player..
Rafa likes to get the most of his players by playing them in the right position or giving them the right instructions... Babel needs alot more than that imo... he needs guidance and needs alot of fine tuning to become a better player...

For now he quite simly isnt good enough to start... even as a sub i cant say that he'd make an impact in most of the games he'd come on.... in a perfect world we'd loan him out to a smaller club in the league or a Ajax sort of club where he'd start regularly and probably improve as a player in a year or two... That being said our financial situation means that atm, if he isnt happy with his role in the club, the best solution for both parties would be to get rid for as much as we can get and wish the lad all the best...

I dont know about that mate. Look at when he came in that first season. He made people like Biscan look good and he has done a great job with Kuyt, Stevie and Arbeloa.

Kuyt ? the 10 million clinical striker who still cant control a ball to save his life ? Kuyt hasnt improved one bit in my books... hes still a poor poor player who works hard... fact that hes scoring more goals atm is the only reason he isnt getting as much stick... as soon as they dry up everyone will get back to singling him out as a weak link... he's getting into good position now but again... as a player i dont think hes improved..

Gerrard was always going to be the great player he is... credit to Rafa for allowing it to happen but cant really say he made Gerrard into what he is...

Arbeloa is a decent player... nothing more to add so cant really say that Rafa made him into a great player cause he's been decent since he got here... and he still is.

When you see the likes of Ferguson bringing in youngsters with potential... the ronaldos, rooneys, and many other over the years... you just know that Ferguson is working week in week out behind the scenes to ensure he gets the most of such players... he trains them hard and it all pays off on the pitch eventually... you can see the transformation in thir style of play... same with Wenger who imo is in a league of his own when it comes to getting the best out of his players....

Rafa hasnt done enough of that... he's spend plenty of money bringing in 'the right players' or the right 'options' but if a player doesnt turn out to be quite the finished article he simply gets rid or doesnt play them... Babel has potential... i fear for him at Liverpool to be honest... i dont think hes going to go anywhere if he stays here and will probably end up losing his place in the Holland squads and lose any sort of reputation he had before coming to Liverpool..

[Rush Job]

If he went in for 50-50 balls and generally looked more interested and hungry, folks would have more sympathy.

He´s a squad player whether he likes it or not.

But he's a centre forward, not a mdfielder and shouldn't be called upon to make many tackles. As a striker/CF, you usually have the ball played to you.

The bottom line is that he's being played out of position and more importantly in a position he's unquestionably not suited to.

I dont remember Kenny or Rushie being pussies.

Dalglish got the boot in, but I don't seem to remember Ian Rush getting his skinny involved in too many tackles   

Cant let that go.
Ian Rush was the first line of defence and often came back into midfield to win the ball and start an attack.
I think you need to dust off some of those old videos and stop speaking sh!te about a ledgend.

[heimdall]

If he went in for 50-50 balls and generally looked more interested and hungry, folks would have more sympathy.

He´s a squad player whether he likes it or not.

But he's a centre forward, not a mdfielder and shouldn't be called upon to make many tackles. As a striker/CF, you usually have the ball played to you.

The bottom line is that he's being played out of position and more importantly in a position he's unquestionably not suited to.

I dont remember Kenny or Rushie being pussies.

Dalglish got the boot in, but I don't seem to remember Ian Rush getting his skinny involved in too many tackles   

Cant let that go.
Ian Rush was the first line of defence and often came back into midfield to win the ball and start an attack.
I think you need to dust off some of those old videos and stop speaking sh!te about a ledgend.

Totally agree, I can remember Rushie tracking back and getting stuck in all the time, what an ace striker he was, some of his goals were fecking unbelievable!