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Postby Koptite » Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:54 pm

i was watching him before we signed him and he looked really good as a striker. I still think he has got all the atributes for a quality winger, he's quick and direct at times but i would like Rafa to give him a chance upfront. Not sure how Rafa would play him though.....out and striker with Torres or in a Kean role just behind Torres??? Carling Cup game's would of been a great chance to see!!!
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Postby maypaxvobiscum » Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:01 pm

he plays in the left side of attack for holland right? is it as a winger or out and out striker?
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Postby Bad Bob » Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:04 pm

Boo farkin' hoo.  Indifferent attitude on the pitch and zero footballing brain means his place is on the bench as an impact sub--a bit of pace to bring on and run at tired defenses.  If that's not enough for the lad I'm sure there'll be other clubs interested in him.  Sunderland's already got Cisse so their probably going to pass but maybe Wigan or Fulham would like to take a punt? ???
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Postby tubby » Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:04 pm

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bavlondon wrote:Lets all pray we can still get back most of what we paid for him. Luckily he has scored some goals for us since hes been here but he is a complete waste of money.

:no , he hasn't done too bad for his first season you know mate . All he needs is some consistency to his game and he will be fine and yes bam thats a good idea but i think he should start against fulham with torres or keane and if he's not performing take him off . If he was at arsenal , i think he'd be twice the player he is now , because he would be getting regular games and wenger would get the best out of him , and he'd deffo be playing upfront instead of that donkey adebayor

He is only effective as a super sub but even then that is only becasue he is pacey and the rest are all tired so its a no brainer. But most of the time he runs into players and misplaces passes. He can show flahshes of great play at times but those are only short and rare compared to how he normally players.
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Postby Reg » Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:33 pm

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Reg wrote:If he went in for 50-50 balls and generally looked more interested and hungry, folks would have more sympathy.

He´s a squad player whether he likes it or not.

But he's a centre forward, not a mdfielder and shouldn't be called upon to make many tackles. As a striker/CF, you usually have the ball played to you.

The bottom line is that he's being played out of position and more importantly in a position he's unquestionably not suited to.

I dont remember Kenny or Rushie being pussies.
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Postby KennyisGod....still » Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:37 pm

He's a big improvement on last season, when he could barely accept a pass and keep it without bein bundled off the ball, but he's far from an automatic first choice. I dont see him as able as Keane to do the donkey work and allow others to get the glory either. I accept Keane aint scored the goals we'd like by far, but he can put himself about, get into positions, be available. He dont tend to hide durin the game like Babel. I know Keane aint actually set the world alight, but compared to a player thats knackered after 20 minutes he's a godsend!!

Babel needs to accept until he improves his time on the pitch will reflect Rafa's thinkin of his use, and maybe just maybe, he'll realise he aint the sweetest thing to enter Anfield in the last 4 decades.

If he aint happy, earn a transfer. Win/win then aint it.

Any1 else remember the days players had to earn their place at Liverpool? When you didnt get a game til you showed you were worth it? I aint seen that many games Babel's actually set the place alight on his jack, tho yes..... he aint a bad player at all. I'd rather keep him than let him go, but if he wants t start making demands then he can f'ck rite off.
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Postby Emerald Red » Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:43 pm

Hold on a second, where exactly does the likes of Messi and Ronaldo play on the pitch, yet they still manage to grab their fare share of goals? On the wings or wide striking areas? I think so. F*ck up, Babel, and stop yer moaning. You're 21 and you play for one of the top 3 biggest clubs in Europe and you still manage to get a kick even though you're a lazy b@stard at times. Some people are never happy.
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Postby tonyeh » Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:56 pm

Reg wrote:
tonyeh wrote:
Reg wrote:If he went in for 50-50 balls and generally looked more interested and hungry, folks would have more sympathy.

He´s a squad player whether he likes it or not.

But he's a centre forward, not a mdfielder and shouldn't be called upon to make many tackles. As a striker/CF, you usually have the ball played to you.

The bottom line is that he's being played out of position and more importantly in a position he's unquestionably not suited to.

I dont remember Kenny or Rushie being pussies.

Dalglish got the boot in, but I don't seem to remember Ian Rush getting his skinny :censored: involved in too many tackles   :)
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Postby Bam » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:00 pm

tonyeh wrote:
Reg wrote:
tonyeh wrote:
Reg wrote:If he went in for 50-50 balls and generally looked more interested and hungry, folks would have more sympathy.

He´s a squad player whether he likes it or not.

But he's a centre forward, not a mdfielder and shouldn't be called upon to make many tackles. As a striker/CF, you usually have the ball played to you.

The bottom line is that he's being played out of position and more importantly in a position he's unquestionably not suited to.

I dont remember Kenny or Rushie being pussies.

Dalglish got the boot in, but I don't seem to remember Ian Rush getting his skinny :censored: involved in too many tackles   :)

He still had the work rate though.
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Postby DanAn » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:00 pm

Could we loan him out for a season too PSV or someone? Maybe PSV after in January. This close to the world cup getting regular time in a Dutch team might help his international career. I think in a years time he is going to be a gun but he's not good enough yet to start.

Failing that we might be able to sell him and Dossena for 15m combined and pick up Owen and a quality left back.
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Postby LiverpoolMadman » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:18 pm

Babel is a good player but just don't understand why Rafa still like to play 1 striker up front . We have 4 striker, 1st Choice will be Torres, follow by Keane and that's it. Maybe Rafa need to play attacking Football .... kill the game in the 1st then sub the 2 main strikers after 60min to 70 min with the 2 young striker , Babel and Ngog.
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Postby tonyeh » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:25 pm

Bam wrote:
tonyeh wrote:
Reg wrote:
tonyeh wrote:
Reg wrote:If he went in for 50-50 balls and generally looked more interested and hungry, folks would have more sympathy.

He´s a squad player whether he likes it or not.

But he's a centre forward, not a mdfielder and shouldn't be called upon to make many tackles. As a striker/CF, you usually have the ball played to you.

The bottom line is that he's being played out of position and more importantly in a position he's unquestionably not suited to.

I dont remember Kenny or Rushie being pussies.

Dalglish got the boot in, but I don't seem to remember Ian Rush getting his skinny :censored: involved in too many tackles   :)

He still had the work rate though.

Aye, no argument there.

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Postby heimdall » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:03 pm

Rafa has decided he's a winger so that's where he'll play, no way in hell Rafa will ever change his mind!
I don't want to see him leave because I think he has loads of potential but I would like to see him played together with Torres up front, too pacey strikers, both with a good shot would be devastating, but hey much better to keep playing N'Gog there eh Rafa ???
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Postby Bad Bob » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:11 pm

Reg wrote:
tonyeh wrote:
Reg wrote:If he went in for 50-50 balls and generally looked more interested and hungry, folks would have more sympathy.

He´s a squad player whether he likes it or not.

But he's a centre forward, not a mdfielder and shouldn't be called upon to make many tackles. As a striker/CF, you usually have the ball played to you.

The bottom line is that he's being played out of position and more importantly in a position he's unquestionably not suited to.

I dont remember Kenny or Rushie being pussies.

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Postby Bad Bob » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:18 pm

heimdall wrote:Rafa has decided he's a winger so that's where he'll play, no way in hell Rafa will ever change his mind!
I don't want to see him leave because I think he has loads of potential but I would like to see him played together with Torres up front, too pacey strikers, both with a good shot would be devastating, but hey much better to keep playing N'Gog there eh Rafa ???

I wouldn't back a Torres-Babel strike partnership to gel at all.  Torres needs a partner who uses clever movement to create space and who can pick a pass.  Babel, IMO, would just get in Torres' way because he's not the type to drop deep to receive the ball and let Torres run the channels or play on the shoulder of the last defenders.  He'd severely inhibit Nando's game, IMO, without contributing much of note on his own.  His best use, at the moment, is as an impact sub who can stretch the opposition and who can help pick teams off on the counterattack.
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