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[damjan193]

Another reason why we're being held back - Howard Webb

Howard Webb has escaped being relegated to the Football League after his refereeing of Arsenal's FA Cup win against Liverpool drew intense criticism from the Anfield club and from pundits.

The official will take charge of Cardiff's Premier League match against Hull on Saturday and he has reacted to storm surrounding his performance by trying to end discussion of his off-field activities.

Webb has had his name removed from a celebrity website advertising his services for after-dinner speaking following suggestions he had lost his focus on refereeing.

He initially came under fire from Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers and captain Steven Gerrard for denying Luis Suarez what appeared to be a clear penalty in Arsenal's 2-1 win at Emirates Stadium on Sunday.

However, he was also heavily criticised by former top-flight referee Mark Halsey, who made the claim that Webb had been distracted by his off-field interests and needed to take "a good look at himself."

Webb's apparent reaction has been to have his name, profile and references to his speaking activities erased from an agency website.

Webb was listed as a client of the website comedians.co.uk, which represents numerous high-profile figures from sport, politics and entertainment.

His fee was listed as between 2,000 pounds to 4,000 pounds, according to the Daily Telegraph, and the paper claims someone acting on behalf of Webb asked the agency to remove his details because of the criticism it had brought him.

Webb does, however, reportedly remain a client and available for motivational talks. The spotlight will remain on the official, however, as he returns to action on Saturday.

He is considered to be the country's top referee and will represent England at the World Cup in Brazil.

The Premier League are reluctant to demote officials unless they have produced a bad run of games and try to avoid reacting too quickly to what can be one-off errors.

Rodgers may dispute that Webb's decision on Sunday was an isolated error. The referee may have given Liverpool one penalty in the game, when Lukas Podolski fouled Suarez, but the manager pointed to a previous incident at Chelsea when his Uruguayan striker was also denied a spot kick.


comedians.co.uk lol the irony

Yeeaah, that's the pressure on referees that I wanna see. Make him feel sorry for ever giving a call against us! We should expect to have more calls going our way if things keep developing like this. It's dirty business but I'd rather have calls going for us than against us.

[devaney]

Stu/Ben - Abuse of the owners was aimed at Max. The thread has got a bit messy - partly my fault - sorry! I mentioned Suarez and Torres because Ayre's and the owners who were being heavily criticised by Max were responsible for those deals.

The point I was making is that we tend to overlook the good and concentrate on the bad which lets face it is a trait of most fans (including me on the very odd occasion ) simply because we want the best. As Max pointed out we our in a great position and January was the time to spend and spend big which I said before the window opened. It didn't happen for whatever reason and as not big on conjecture I certainly won't criticise the individuals involved. Yes we have got some deals wrong but so does everybody. But some of the deals we have got right over the last couple of years have been absolute stormers. Would it be unreasonable to suggest that Suarez Coutinho and Sturridge are worth £110/120m for an outlay of just over £40m. It just grates a bit when some fans talk about Ayre's and the owners with zero respect.

I wasn't abusing the owners. I was merely criticizing the transfer committee for leaving it so late for the Konaplaynka deal as reported by several sites. At least get that right. And you're one to talk about respect when posting aren't you, you hypocrite? 

If we don't finish in the top 4, it would be a massive disappointment as January would have been the time to get the defensive midfielder and the fullback we badly needed. We can't compete with the others like City and Chelsea which makes it all the more vital that we don't spend money on players and sent them on loan. If you can't get that around your head, which is the gist of the post I was making, then don't bother replying 

Perhaps you didn't abuse the owners but what was it you actually said about Ayre's - most incompetent in England was your judgement which as I so tactfully pointed out is fkg bollux !! You seem incapable of giving him credit for anything. You certainly don't have all the facts about the Salah or Konaplaynka deals but you arrogantly feel qualified to pass judgement based on some incomplete press articles which you naively believe are correct. Hindsight is wonderful, it is an exact science unlike the transfer market which is anything but.

I'm more than capable of understanding your understandable frustration and the gist of your post in relation to some of the transfer deals and players almost immediately going out on loan. It is just a shame that you didn't concentrate on the facts instead of castigating Ayre's which I believe was unreasonable but clearly you don't agree.

Just who have I disrespected and please don't say you because I've actually been quite reserved   

[parchpea]

Possibly had too many injuries to our best defensive players to be consistent away from home where you naturally
come under more pressure.

Other thing is we go for every game now no matter who is the side or the team we are playing so we take more
of a chance, and overall its working vey well.

[Thommo's perm]

Howard Webb is an attention seeking, cheating, posing, dishonest cu'nt and why Rodgers doesnt say that he refuses him refereeing our matches is beyond me.
Quite clearly he has something against us, especially Suarez and there is no defence for his blatant bias.
Fu'ck him right off the prancing preening cockmuncher!

[parchpea]

Howard Webb is an attention seeking, cheating, posing, dishonest cu'nt and why Rodgers doesnt say that he refuses him refereeing our matches is beyond me.
Quite clearly he has something against us, especially Suarez and there is no defence for his blatant bias.
Fu'ck him right off the prancing preening cockmuncher!

Is this a retweet from Mark Halseys twitter account 

[Octsky]

Work in progress. Rodgers ideal team and philosophy is clearly not fully implemented. I'm delighted with the progress we have made under his leadership. I am really confident he will bring back success to this club.

First job is re-qualification for the CL, once those cash flows come back in - the real squad investment happens. Look what he has done with a limited budget, consider where we could be once investment levels raise.

A limited budget?

Are you for real?

Allen, £15,000,000
Borini, £10,400,000
Sahko, £17,000,000
Alberto, £6,500,000
Ilori £7,000,000
Aspas £7,000,000

Hardly f*cking buttons is it?

None of those players have improved our team. Allen is a decent enough player but we could manage without him, Borini is league one standard at best and the rest, while they "might be young and need time" have so far contributed as much to our season as myself personally.

You are quite simply, one clueless mother f*cker!

why is there a need for that kind of language?
you will only put yourself further in a bad light.
our budget is limited compared to other contenders.
this season we conceded too many. i rmb old boring morinhon chelsea team winning the
league by shutting tight and scoring and winning by the odd goal.

[LFC1990]

We have only lost 3 away games this year Citeh,Chelsea and Hull apart from hull the other 2 we should have got atleast a point.

[maypaxvobiscum]

Stu/Ben - Abuse of the owners was aimed at Max. The thread has got a bit messy - partly my fault - sorry! I mentioned Suarez and Torres because Ayre's and the owners who were being heavily criticised by Max were responsible for those deals.

The point I was making is that we tend to overlook the good and concentrate on the bad which lets face it is a trait of most fans (including me on the very odd occasion ) simply because we want the best. As Max pointed out we our in a great position and January was the time to spend and spend big which I said before the window opened. It didn't happen for whatever reason and as not big on conjecture I certainly won't criticise the individuals involved. Yes we have got some deals wrong but so does everybody. But some of the deals we have got right over the last couple of years have been absolute stormers. Would it be unreasonable to suggest that Suarez Coutinho and Sturridge are worth £110/120m for an outlay of just over £40m. It just grates a bit when some fans talk about Ayre's and the owners with zero respect.

I wasn't abusing the owners. I was merely criticizing the transfer committee for leaving it so late for the Konaplaynka deal as reported by several sites. At least get that right. And you're one to talk about respect when posting aren't you, you hypocrite? 

If we don't finish in the top 4, it would be a massive disappointment as January would have been the time to get the defensive midfielder and the fullback we badly needed. We can't compete with the others like City and Chelsea which makes it all the more vital that we don't spend money on players and sent them on loan. If you can't get that around your head, which is the gist of the post I was making, then don't bother replying 

Perhaps you didn't abuse the owners but what was it you actually said about Ayre's - most incompetent in England was your judgement which as I so tactfully pointed out is fkg bollux !! You seem incapable of giving him credit for anything. You certainly don't have all the facts about the Salah or Konaplaynka deals but you arrogantly feel qualified to pass judgement based on some incomplete press articles which you naively believe are correct. Hindsight is wonderful, it is an exact science unlike the transfer market which is anything but.

I'm more than capable of understanding your understandable frustration and the gist of your post in relation to some of the transfer deals and players almost immediately going out on loan. It is just a shame that you didn't concentrate on the facts instead of castigating Ayre's which I believe was unreasonable but clearly you don't agree.

Just who have I disrespected and please don't say you because I've actually been quite reserved   :kungfu:

So you're saying that just because YOU think Ayre isn't incompetent does it mean I have to follow YOUR opinion?
Go fk yourself 

[babu]

Quality debate. well in lads

[devaney]

Maxpaxvobiscum - quality response lad. You seem to struggle to remember what you have actually written yourself. Let me remind you  you actually stated that Ayre's was the worst in England and not just incompetent. I don't expect you to agree with me simply because I'm capable of taking a balanced view. But to be honest if you write a load of old bollux I will respond.

Have a good day...........     

[Stu the Red]

Maxpaxvobiscum - quality response lad. You seem to struggle to remember what you have actually written yourself. Let me remind you  you actually stated that Ayre's was the worst in England and not just incompetent. I don't expect you to agree with me simply because I'm capable of taking a balanced view. But to be honest if you write a load of old bollux I will respond.

Have a good day...........     

Maypax = Stu wammabe

[kazza]

Maxpaxvobiscum - quality response lad. You seem to struggle to remember what you have actually written yourself. Let me remind you  you actually stated that Ayre's was the worst in England and not just incompetent. I don't expect you to agree with me simply because I'm capable of taking a balanced view. But to be honest if you write a load of old bollux I will respond.

Have a good day...........     

Maypax = Stu wammabe

Don't you mean WUMmabe

[jacdaniel]

We have only lost 3 away games this year Citeh,Chelsea and Hull apart from hull the other 2 we should have got atleast a point.

But we also got knocked out of both cups in away games.  Carling Cup to United and FA Cup to Arsenal.
We concede too many soft goals away from home.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

We have only lost 3 away games this year Citeh,Chelsea and Hull apart from hull the other 2 we should have got atleast a point.

True but if we are going to challenge for the top prizes in the game our away form has to improve, in terms of points won we have a worse away record than the likes of City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs and even United.
To really put our away form in perspective we have won the same amount of points away from home as Newcastle.

[kazza]

We have only lost 3 away games this year Citeh,Chelsea and Hull apart from hull the other 2 we should have got atleast a point.

True but if we are going to challenge for the top prizes in the game our away form has to improve, in terms of points won we have a worse away record than the likes of City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs and even United.
To really put our away form in perspective we have won the same amount of points away from home as Newcastle.

Strange seeing as how we counter attack so well and away the home team has more of a go at us opening themselves up.