by Sabre » Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:56 pm
Interesting thread this. The topic of discussion is why people like me are angry. Perhaps after some rants and a few Owzat stats I'll know why I'm angry.
So we have just started the psychology thread, and we already have two mistakes, one, not asking the angry guys directly. Second, suggest that people get angry because a poster loses faith in the manager or disagrees.
Here's a scenario that may help to this deep psychology thread provided you grasp a remote concept of empathy.
Imagine the typical situation of Liverpool on top of the table, and an "anti" moaning because we won 1-0 instead of 3-0 and we changed 3 players to win the match. Ok, the "anti" will get abuse, but it's easier to get called cluéless and a twát, when you look at the table and see your club in first position. And thus, it's easier to keep calm. It's a hell of good consolation to see your club on top of the table.
Now imagine this situation, you dream of the league, you hate the mancs, you love Liverpool, and you see the archrival overtaking you and getting 7 points away. Then you come here, angry as fúck because of that, and all you see are insults to the manager and the team, and to top it off, you see someone noting the pros are missing and assuming their reasons to be missing and giving credit to those who are posting with a sarcasm touch here and there.
The situation is different. Because, when you look at the table you don't have the big consolation. I can assure you that if I look at the table, I see Liverpool on top, and I have 13 antis with Mick leading the march calling me clueless, I would be laughing. It's not who disagrees you and how, it's the situation of the team, and occasional lack of respect to the manager with insults.
Now of course, you can debate why people like me are angry. You could even wield your English with more or less dexterity to suggest with a periphrasis or a roundabout expression that the pros are people who do not take disagreements with the same good will as the antis -- of course you don't pretend that, you genuinelly are interested on why the people are angry, of course, of course-- . It could even take 6 pages the discussion.
But the answer is much more human and simple than the one you suggest. The truth is that it's actually much more easier to banter and accept the taking of píss when your team is well than where they're struggling. I can't believe you had never thought of that, but here you go.
So, in a nutshell, if you want to know why the people are angry, ask them.
If you think that the people are angry because people lose faith in the manager, get your facts right, you're not the only one to have lost a good amount of faith in the manager (i.e. Bad Bob, Connovar, Mistyred, Cool Hand Luke, Ciggy sometimes, Stu, Effes, Ace Ventura, the list is long). In that particular case of the other thread, I answered because I didn't like you assumed why the pros were not posting, not because you have lost faith in the manager, which in your case was lost long ago I'd say.
I've stated a lot of times the respect I have towards your posts and that's something that hasn't changed. I'll even go as far as saying I like you and that's difficult to say in Newkit without being told to get a room. But FFS Mick, surely you can understand that when the team are struggling people will be more sensitive to bantering? What's the english expression to say "The oven isn't for cakes this morning"? Surely you're on a better mood when the team win? Not talking about superfans here,but talking about very common and human reactions to club football.
If I had a go with everyone who had lost faith on the manager in the last 3 years, I'd have been banned several times already. No, that's not the problem, and no, I don't have my crosshair on you, you just assumed in the other thread why people like me were not posting, I'm angry as fúck due to the misfortunes of the club, and I'm simply more sensitive because of that.
It's dead simple really.
P.S. Forget this post, Tonieh's intelligent post is on the money. The thread was genuinelly intended to understand better why the pros are angry, a clever guy like Tonieh did get the point of the thread quickly, and he's got spot on. The pros are not clever enough.
Ah well.
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