Agger and Alonso out for 6 weeks! - Double injury below confirmed by .tv

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Postby 66-1112520797 » Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:30 am

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Bamaga man wrote:Hyypia is still capable of churning out top draw performances for us, he is a quality defender and although he did 'get done for pace' the other night, probably has the fact he hasnt played alot. As soon as the cobwebs are brushed off he'll be as reliable as ever, a few games on the spin will do him or our team no harm atall.

While I agree with you that Hyypia is still good enough, my worry is can he still play 3 games a week, and put in good performances? Or should we rest him for the CL games to concentrate on the league.

Good point Saint, rest him for the CL games I reckon.

And although I agree with Mick about Areboloa not looking like a "traditional" centre half, I'd give him a shot there for the CL games.
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Postby maguskwt » Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:47 am

what's with these metatarsals... in the last 3-4 years it seems to be the most popular injury to have...
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Postby JC_81 » Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:49 am

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john craig wrote:I don't think there's any need to change our whole system and go with a back 3 just because Agger's injured.

Sami's still got a lot of quality.  People keep banging on about the Porto lad doing him for pace the other night.  Fact is Hyypia's going to be rusty as he hasn't played much recently.  Yes the lad did him for pace, but with a few games under his belt and a bit of match sharpness, Hyypia would have snuffed out the danger before the lad even had a chance to do him for pace.

If Hyypia gets a run of games now with Agger out I predict he'll impress and what's more I'll also predict that when Agger's fit again there will be people on this site questioning whether Hyypia should keep his place.

Well Sami played against Sunderland [not sure for how long as he was taken off], Tolouse and Derby. He also played for his national team.

I think he's had more than enough games under his belt already.

In a back 4 it's not just about games, but who you play with aswell.

Yes he's played 4 or 5 games, but he's been in and out of the side and when he has been in it's been alongside Agger one time and Carra the next.  This is particularly significant for Hyypia as he plays as the left sided CB when Carra plays and the right sided CB when Agger plays.  A run in the side with a regular partner and Hyypia will play well.

I do have slight concerns over him managing 3 games a week though as others have said, but seeing as it's only a period of 4-6 weeks til Agger gets back, I think he'll be ok.  Our problems will really start if Hyypia/Carra gets injured/suspended.  You only have to look at what happened to Chelsea last year when they had to play full backs and midfielders at centre back.
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Postby mungi » Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:52 am

arbeloa might have to step in. maybe its time to see if jack hobbs can step up. has had huge raps on him for a while
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Postby bigmick » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:25 pm

mungi wrote:arbeloa might have to step in. maybe its time to see if jack hobbs can step up. has had huge raps on him for a while

Well if one of Hyppia or Carragher get injured i think he'll have to step up. I must confess, on the odd occasion I've seen him in minor fixtures I've been singularly unimpressed TBH but he is very young and should improve I guess. Ultimately though, if you are a young player and you are the captain of the reserve team and three or four first teamers in your position are unable to play, I think you'd be justified in wanting to have a crack at it. After all, if we don't ever give these kids a go we'll never know one way or the other.
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:46 pm

With the lack of a tru covering defender with Carragher in hte middle, I worry about Sammy lack of pace.
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Postby red37 » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:50 pm

You kind of get the idea how the game is going to pan out. Torres (or Crouch) up top and ball after ball hoofed in their general direction in the hope of one or two sticking. Agger has been taken for granted of late (at least his influence has).
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Postby maypaxvobiscum » Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:56 pm

i think we will cope fine. defence is a worry but we have arbeloa who can play there. we also have hobbs. we can also change tactics in a certain way as someone mentioned earlier. i think it was Lando or BadBob.
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Postby SouthCoastShankly » Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:01 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:With the lack of a tru covering defender with Carragher in hte middle, I worry about Sammy lack of pace.

Maybe this is the right time, considering our fixture list, to play Jack Hobbs?
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Postby AB's Red Army » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:07 pm

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Leonmc0708 wrote:With the lack of a tru covering defender with Carragher in hte middle, I worry about Sammy lack of pace.

Maybe this is the right time, considering our fixture list, to play Jack Hobbs?

No. I'd rather boil my nuts than see that lad play a competitive game at the highest level.

He is not good enough by any stretch of imagination.
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Postby murphy0151 » Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:22 pm

AB's Red Army wrote:
SouthCoastShankly wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:With the lack of a tru covering defender with Carragher in hte middle, I worry about Sammy lack of pace.

Maybe this is the right time, considering our fixture list, to play Jack Hobbs?

No. I'd rather boil my nuts than see that lad play a competitive game at the highest level.

He is not good enough by any stretch of imagination.

One of the kids needs to be brought threw now.  As Hyypia will not be able to play every week.

If its Jack Hobbs or that spanish dude San Jose what ever his name is i dont care. 

Hopefully one of them will be good enough.  The only way we are going tot find out is if we actually play them.  And playing Birmingham at home where the majority of play is going to be in the other half the field is an ideal time to play either or.  Or even give that young short ar se a go.  The youth team captain.
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Postby AB's Red Army » Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:39 pm

murphy0151 wrote:
AB's Red Army wrote:
SouthCoastShankly wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:With the lack of a tru covering defender with Carragher in hte middle, I worry about Sammy lack of pace.

Maybe this is the right time, considering our fixture list, to play Jack Hobbs?

No. I'd rather boil my nuts than see that lad play a competitive game at the highest level.

He is not good enough by any stretch of imagination.

One of the kids needs to be brought threw now.  As Hyypia will not be able to play every week.

If its Jack Hobbs or that spanish dude San Jose what ever his name is i dont care. 

Hopefully one of them will be good enough.  The only way we are going tot find out is if we actually play them.  And playing Birmingham at home where the majority of play is going to be in the other half the field is an ideal time to play either or.  Or even give that young short ar se a go.  The youth team captain.

Play Hobbs against Readin in the Carling Cup. We can't afford to risk playing him against a Premiership side and lose more points.

Hobbs is not good enough from what I've seen.
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Postby JC_81 » Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:15 pm

AB's Red Army wrote:
murphy0151 wrote:
AB's Red Army wrote:
SouthCoastShankly wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:With the lack of a tru covering defender with Carragher in hte middle, I worry about Sammy lack of pace.

Maybe this is the right time, considering our fixture list, to play Jack Hobbs?

No. I'd rather boil my nuts than see that lad play a competitive game at the highest level.

He is not good enough by any stretch of imagination.

One of the kids needs to be brought threw now.  As Hyypia will not be able to play every week.

If its Jack Hobbs or that spanish dude San Jose what ever his name is i dont care. 

Hopefully one of them will be good enough.  The only way we are going tot find out is if we actually play them.  And playing Birmingham at home where the majority of play is going to be in the other half the field is an ideal time to play either or.  Or even give that young short ar se a go.  The youth team captain.

Play Hobbs against Readin in the Carling Cup. We can't afford to risk playing him against a Premiership side and lose more points.

Hobbs is not good enough from what I've seen.

I agree, I don't think we'll see Hobbs start a Premiership game, Carling Cup is probably it for him.  I'd say Benitez would favour playing a full back out of position at centre half rather than play Hobbs.

It does raise the question though of what's the point in having people like Hobbs on the books if we don't use them in situations like this.
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Postby The Manhattan Project » Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:17 pm

Manhattan had never heard of a "metatarsal" before Beckham suffered his injury in 2002.


I think football players are intentionally breaking their metatarsals because it's fashionable, like wearing beads around the wrist.


Manhattan wants to jump on this bandwagon. I am going to break my metatarsal right now.

I'll be back later, after the deed is done.
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Postby murphy0151 » Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:43 pm

The Manhattan Project wrote:Manhattan had never heard of a "metatarsal" before Beckham suffered his injury in 2002.


I think football players are intentionally breaking their metatarsals because it's fashionable, like wearing beads around the wrist.


Manhattan wants to jump on this bandwagon. I am going to break my metatarsal right now.

I'll be back later, after the deed is done.

Murphy0151 is wondering how long he can be off work with this injury.
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