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[woof woof !]

Stick with martial arts Sabre, consider Kendo for you and the missus.

[Sabre]

Yeh, well, erm, we don't do much of that in the north. Some women do that in classes, the Andalussians living here they keep their traditions, but it's rare.

I guess it's as unlikely to see a cowboy from Texas with the boots and the hat, in Chicago. 

just preparing you for expectations, because if you said you were from the Basque region Americans might think you were from Middle Earth or something. 

It's the problem of Americans. They watch the McGyver view on basques, and they think the Sabres jump in the mountains, sing opera in the jungle, recollect bananas (there are none here), and practive Guerrilla warfare for a living.



Mc Gyver and Basques

[Scottbot]

I had slipped disc and was in agony for three months but was put right by a chiropractor who was practising the 'Mactimony' technique. This essentially focuses on the whole skeleton and is gentle manipulation from your feet to your head, it's actually very pleasant and leaves you feeling quite dazed aftrewards. Its the only thing that worked for me after trying loads of other techniques from osteopathy, physiotherapy, reflexology etc. If your seeing a specialist he should advise appropriately, it's important to know exactly what the problem is so any treatment is effective. Good luck.

Girl I work with is 6 months away from qualifying as Mctimonee practicioner. It's very different to other forms of osteopathy and doesn't involve the big adjustments you would associate with typical chiropractory.

[JoeTerp]

Yeh, well, erm, we don't do much of that in the north. Some women do that in classes, the Andalussians living here they keep their traditions, but it's rare.

I guess it's as unlikely to see a cowboy from Texas with the boots and the hat, in Chicago. 

just preparing you for expectations, because if you said you were from the Basque region Americans might think you were from Middle Earth or something. 

It's the problem of Americans. They watch the McGyver view on basques, and they think the Sabres jump in the mountains, sing opera in the jungle, recollect bananas (there are none here), and practive Guerrilla warfare for a living.



Mc Gyver and Basques

doesn't seem like you lot like wearing shirts too much      But seriously I think you would be very saddened if you conducted a poll on the general American public and asked them on which map can the Basque Region be found: the globe, Star Trek Universe, or Middle Earth.  And then once telling them it was on the globe, asking them what continent it was located, and then once telling them Europe, ask what country its located in.

but to be fair, a good number of Americans (especially women) have trouble with this

[Sabre]

That's probably because the educative system doesn't care much about foreign geography Joe.

Do not think however that europeans would know to place Illinois or Wisconsin with a error margin of less than 3000Km. We're not as educated as we pretend to be.

[Sabre]

Cheers woof, I'm considering other options just in case we can't continue there (it's not only the sport, it's that we get along well with the people we've encountered there, very different people group). The problem will be that in a small town, there are not that many options in our restricted time table.

As for the chiropractor, which I've never heard of, and is translated as quiropractica, thanks for the advice. I hadn't a clue of what that was. Cheers, I'll google a bit about that.

[zarababe]

Sabe - women and back problems are sadly quite common. Best to get the specialists to check it out. Homeopathy provides a good alternative treatment check out this site:  http://www.seeknatural.co.uk/category-HO.html

All the best

[Judge]

I'll google a bit

you'll get the likes of destro and the band of googlets on yer trail

[JoeTerp]

We're not as educated as we pretend to be.

I found that out when I visited London. I knew all about how dumb Americans were about international geography and such, so I just assumed that everyone else must know a lot about America. But most people I asked, couldn't tell me which coast Washington DC was on. and had never heard of my state, or they would think of the cookies (which aren't even from here    ).  So I came up with my own little theory that the average person's geography knowledge is probably pretty similar across the globe accounting for education and probably socio-economic status when put in terms of how much they know in a certain amount of miles away from their home.

[Judge]

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[Emerald Red]

Yeh, well, erm, we don't do much of that in the north. Some women do that in classes, the Andalussians living here they keep their traditions, but it's rare.

I guess it's as unlikely to see a cowboy from Texas with the boots and the hat, in Chicago. 

just preparing you for expectations, because if you said you were from the Basque region Americans might think you were from Middle Earth or something. 

It's the problem of Americans. They watch the McGyver view on basques, and they think the Sabres jump in the mountains, sing opera in the jungle, recollect bananas (there are none here), and practive Guerrilla warfare for a living.



Mc Gyver and Basques

That's stretching it, Sabre. I doubt many would know what the Basque region is. But I laughed at your post anyway. Very good.

[JC_81]

Sabre, sounds like nerve root pain (radiculopathy) she's getting, which most people know as sciatica.  Many things can cause it.  From the distribution you've described it's probably the 1st sacral or 5th lumbar nerve root affected on that side.  In layman terms this just means that something is pressing on the nerve supplying those parts of the leg as it branches off the spinal cord at the vertebra.

Bony anbormalities as your doctor has described can cause this, but more commonly it's a slipped disc.  When it slips it presses on the nerve root and causes these problems.

Has your GP (family doctor) or an orthopaedic doctor (bone doctor) at the hospital seen the x-ray?  If it's a specialist then fair enough.  If the symptoms are severe and it's only the GP that has reviewed the x-ray then you can get her referred to the hospital for a specialist opinion.

If it's a slipped disc then it won't show on an x-ray, MRI will show it.  If it's a slipped disc then fairly straight forward surgery to decompress it can be done.  I wouldn't however advise this unless the symptoms are severe enough.  If it is a bony problem as your doctor described then there isn't much you can do, but as he says it will improve with less strenuous activity.

Hope this helps

[Sabre]

Yes, you're pretty accurate John, since the first visit to the general doc, his initial diagnostic was about sciatic nerve being caught, just like Scott suggested aswell, but just in case he wanted to see X-RAY to make sure there wasn't problems in the spine.

After watching the X-RAYS he said that the origin of the problem was his sacral bone, that is, you could treat with massages the sciatic and with anti-inflamation meds, but it would be pointless if you don't treat the source of the problem.

he 1st sacral or 5th lumbar nerve root affected on that side.

The general doc was not as accurate as you on this, nor said anything about the slipped disc! you must know a lot of this stuff!

I will let you know what the specialist say mate. She will be made new test, but god knows how to translate "magnetic ressonnance" or something (might be your MR). Much appreciated.

If I can abuse of your knowledge, can we keep some hopes about her future in Kenpo if we're patient with the recovery?

[JC_81]

Yeah mate, magnetic resonance imaging stands for MRI, which is the same test I spoke about.  It's the best test for this type of thing.

X-rays basically tell you about bone, but nothing about soft tissue (like discs), but the MRI looks at soft tissue and not bone.

To be honest if she has already been referred for an MRI then your doctor is already thinking about the possibility of a slipped disc, because it will tell you nothing else about bone.

Difficult to advise you on the Kenpo mate.  I'd take your doc's advice until they find out exactly the cause of the problem.  I wouldn't say 'never again' though, wait and see.

[NANNY RED]

Best thing to do Sabes is wait until shes had the MRI scan. My lad had a back injury a couple of years ago while playin footie, They done x rays an give him anti inflamitarys but it carried on they thought it was something to do with the bone an all , But he had an MRI an the discs 4 an 5 were bulging and pressin on the nerves in his spinal colum.

He had an op were they cut away some of the discs that were causing the problem, he was brilliant after about 3 months back playing footie an golf.

Ciggy is right though dont take up golf as you use your back alot,

just give it time sabes the MRI will get to the cause of the problem.

An no sex