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Postby SouthCoastShankly » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:26 am

However, I do get tired of the nazi/BNP comparison. It's ridiculous and very invalid one and I actually think it's dangerous in many ways to keep playing that silly card. It makes people thnk that they've been lied to when they check the party out and find that they are nothing like what they think the nazis are.


I disagree. I think many people are enticed by the soft BNP policies on immigration, etc and do not do their homework on the core beliefs/constitution of the party. If people knew how racist the history of the group and it's continuing white supremacist motives they would not support them.

Also invalid is the holocaust/BNP policies slant. The nazis didn't set out to destroy the Jews of Europe from day one. The war brought them to that conclusion. It "worked out" that way. Nobody in the nazi party was thinking final solution in 1933. Likewise, I doubt the BNP would contemplate what the nazis contemplated in late 1941.


Agreed but the Nazi party made significant actions that eventually led to the final solution. The holocaust was progressive. From the early 30s Hitler removed civil rights from Jews, lost jobs, school places, they even weren't allowed to marry "Aryan's". Sound familiar?? Sounds to me a lot like the BNP stance on marriage. ???
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Postby tonyeh » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:25 pm

There's a huge difference between the holocaust of 1944 and the racial segregation before the war. Without the war, there would have been no final solution.

Either way, the holocaust analogy for the BNP is way over the top in my opinion.

Likewise, for the nazi/BNP comparison. There isn't one. Sure, people will be drawn to the "softer" policies, but for their oposition to keep harping on about the nazis every time they mention the BNP is ridiculous.

Anyway, I think we're going way off topic here.
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Postby babu » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:43 pm

tonyeh wrote:Anyway, I think we're going way off topic here.

nope. that happened in the first post.  :D   :p
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Postby JoeTerp » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:29 am

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Judge wrote:can anyone answer this - what does it mean to be british ??

base your answers on the knowledge of the history of our nation

someone who comes from one of the British Isles, more specifically the Isle of Great Britain.

:no

Not more specifically the Isle of Great Britain!

I'll have you know that people in Northern Ireland are NOT part of Great Britain but are part of the United Kingdom and are as equally British as anyone from England,Scotland or Wales! :nod

Sure what would you know anyway you Canadian you!
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well I only say that as people from the republic of Ireland come from the Archipelago that is sometimes referred to as "The British Isles" Not everyone recognizes this name for the Archipelago, but pretty much everybody calls the largest island of the Archipelago Great Britain.

Not that I care about political distinctions, but even the UK calls it the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Which means whoever thought of that name thought that there was enough to distinguish. Why not just the United Kingdom of Britain?
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Postby Number 9 » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:16 am

JoeTerp wrote:
Number 9 wrote:
JoeTerp wrote:
Judge wrote:can anyone answer this - what does it mean to be british ??

base your answers on the knowledge of the history of our nation

someone who comes from one of the British Isles, more specifically the Isle of Great Britain.

:no

Not more specifically the Isle of Great Britain!

I'll have you know that people in Northern Ireland are NOT part of Great Britain but are part of the United Kingdom and are as equally British as anyone from England,Scotland or Wales! :nod

Sure what would you know anyway you Canadian you!
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well I only say that as people from the republic of Ireland come from the Archipelago that is sometimes referred to as "The British Isles" Not everyone recognizes this name for the Archipelago, but pretty much everybody calls the largest island of the Archipelago Great Britain.

Not that I care about political distinctions, but even the UK calls it the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Which means whoever thought of that name thought that there was enough to distinguish. Why not just the United Kingdom of Britain?

Well Joe if you ever hear anyone refering to the ROI as part of the British Isles you tell them they are wrong mate! :D
And if you are ever in Dublin having a pint...just a little tip,dont tell a local they are part of it either cause it wont go down too well,trust me! :D
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Postby Judge » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:58 am

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Judge wrote:can anyone answer this - what does it mean to be british ??

base your answers on the knowledge of the history of our nation

drinking and feckin  bottoms :D

im always in gay bars so feck knows what you are!  :laugh:

im british mate
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Postby Number 9 » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:48 pm

Judge wrote:
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Judge wrote:can anyone answer this - what does it mean to be british ??

base your answers on the knowledge of the history of our nation

drinking and feckin  bottoms :D

im always in gay bars so feck knows what you are!  :laugh:

im british mate and proud and gay as fu'ck

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Postby Ciggy » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:05 pm

Number 9 wrote:
Judge wrote:
Madmax wrote:
Judge wrote:can anyone answer this - what does it mean to be british ??

base your answers on the knowledge of the history of our nation

drinking and feckin  bottoms :D

im always in gay bars so feck knows what you are!  :laugh:

im british mate and proud and gay as fu'ck

:nod

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Postby Igor Zidane » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:53 pm

Britain stinks of poo , i'm going to the Gambia with bob and i'm taking the Scouse nation with me .









































err that includes LFC by the way .Youse can keep the blueshIte for yourselves.  :D
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Postby The Red Baron » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:05 pm

Back to topic, as we live in a democratic country this march should definately take place.We could then send all the lads who are off to Afghanistan down there for a bit of target practice.No smileys coz am not joking.
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Postby metalhead » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:07 pm

'Real Fans' are found in Gambia Igor mate... :D
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Postby tubby » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:07 pm

The Red Baron wrote:Back to topic, as we live in a democratic country this march should definately take place.We could then send all the lads who are off to Afghanistan down there for a bit of target practice.No smileys coz am not joking.

I think that group has a history of announcing demonstrations and then withdrawing at the last minute. They are just looking for attention that's all. I doubt it will go ahead.
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Postby Ciggy » Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:16 pm

bavlondon wrote:I think that group has a history of announcing demonstrations and then withdrawing at the last minute. They are just looking for attention that's all. I doubt it will go ahead.

He needs his benefits stopped that horrible b@stard, Ive seen pictures of him readin Porno mags, drinkin vodka and in strip clubs. Since the other fella with the hook hand and one eye has been flung in jail and their other mate has been deported to the Lebenon he has taken over the mantra.

I really hope this protest doesnt go ahead because if it does there will be a civil war and the BNP will gain even more power and the EDL'S members will soar in numbers. There was 1 million members of the facebook group within 48 hours most of them saying they will vote BNP and go to the march and do these Islam4uk lot in.

This fella needs locking up for preaching hate and getting away with it.

The british public understand and know that innocent people have been killed in wars, and the majority of britain didnt even want the feckin war, but Blair bending over backwards for the USA was the reason and they will never win the war in Afghanistan never, ever.

God only know WTF they are doing in Iraq well yeah actually oil. But what makes people mad is this Choudary fella doesnt mention terrorists blowing up mosques, markets or anything else these fundamentilists feel like blowing up and killing young, old, and innocent. He said on the radio the other day american and british troops are blowing these people up and not terrorists  :shifty

Get to feck you two faced b@stard biting the hand that feeds you. Stop his benefits, stop paying for his house and tell him if he doesnt like England he can always go to Afghanistan and fight with the Taliban Ill pay his flight.
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Postby tubby » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:00 am

Im sure the UK islamic society has already publically condemmed Islam4uk. But that won't solve anything. My motto is, if you don't like it here then :censored: off. But everyone is too scared and too PC to take a hard line. The system has become so stupidly complicated that they are using the system itself to protect themselves whilst they carry on with their bs propaganda.
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Postby Madmax » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:06 am

His the next in the list to get locked up just like hook and jabba.
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