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[woof woof !]

I was just wondering if I had missed a good arguement, I wasn't trying to start World War 3

So if Barry asks to come back he can ?

No.

It's a required condition. But not enough. Another required condition is he apologises.

For starters.  That concerning that question of S@int.

More generally (not aimed to S@int, but everybody):

About the one rule for all, we'll see to it that no members are above the warnings or bans that both Barry and Stu have received. They're not the only ones calling names.

In other words, just in case it's not understood the first time and I'm called two-faced later: I don't give a flying fúck how important they think they are any clique members in this forum, name "the cool" guys, name "the football nerds", name anybody. *All* members are the same here, and they're mostly important because they're LFC fans with a contribution to make.

***If*** they think that importance is real, that importance will be only in their minds, the reality is that they're as important as the users that logged in last month and are under the same rules.

***if*** they think being a mod is a power and we're some sort of sheriff, then they don't understand what a mod is and they're blatantly wrong about what a forum is meant for. I'd suggest they realise they should find real friends and real relevance in the real world. And I don't mean the thread.

But I said *if*, just in case. I don't think anybody can be as childish and numpty to think that.

Another required condition is he apologises.

  I guess Barry never expected the Spanish Inquisition .

I don't give a flying fúck how important they think they are any clique members in this forum, name "the cool" guys, name "the football nerds", name anybody. *All* members are the same here,

I know you'd really like to believe that Sabre , bottom line is , until you were elevated to mod status imo you were just an interesting foreign correspondent . Now you've got a badge you seem to think it's part of your job to throw your weight of opinion into almost every thread thats started. Give it a f'ucking rest .We're not all the same, some of us have been supporting Liverpool since birth and some of us only a few months after Rafa Benitez joined us .

The best ref is the one you don't notice . 

[Woollyback]

can we all stop with abusing sabre please? no mod can please all of the people all of the time, that's not what they're here for. they're here to help keep this place in one piece despite the best efforts of a number of members, some of whom really should know better. i am 110% happy to have him as a mod, and i'd bet my mortgage i speak for the silent majority

and johnny was right to ban barry. as entertaining as he could sometimes be let's not get away from the fact that he would regularly come on here all night p*ssed out of his tiny mind and abuse anyone whose name he could remember. barry was the angry, bitter drunk that you see in every pub who eventually gets a smack off one of the regulars and barred by the landlord. it's no loss to the forum.

now if you'll leave me in peace, if i want amateur dramatics i'll go and watch coronation street re-runs on uktv gold

[Sabre]

Edited: Bah, I already defended my self too many times. And I don't want to do it again, just tired.

Woof woof, in a nutshell, ignore me if you don't like what I write.

[Kharhaz]

With regards to the nobodys perfect comment. I am. Just so you know.

[112-1077774096]

Edited: Bah, I already defended my self too many times. And I don't want to do it again, just tired.

Woof woof, in a nutshell, ignore me if you don't like what I write.

its hard to ignore you when you spout sh!te in every thread

[El Nino_#9]

Edited: Bah, I already defended my self too many times. And I don't want to do it again, just tired.

Woof woof, in a nutshell, ignore me if you don't like what I write.

its hard to ignore you when you spout sh!te in every thread

[112-1077774096]

Edited: Bah, I already defended my self too many times. And I don't want to do it again, just tired.

Woof woof, in a nutshell, ignore me if you don't like what I write.

its hard to ignore you when you spout sh!te in every thread

and i care what you think   

[kazza 1]

For Gods sake!!! Is this what this forum has decended into? I have not been online in a week and have seen that Barry has been barred and Peewee and Sabre are still at each others throats. Its funny how things dont change. I dont know about anyone esle, but I'm sick sore and tried of reading endless threads of one person ripping the back out of another.

Barry has been barred and he wont be back. People are dying of cancer, theres a wee girl missing in Portugal, oh and Peewee still has a problem with Sabre being a mod. For God sake stop bitching at each other and get a life. I was in hospital today getting a lump removed from my neck. I have now been told that the doctor is 95% sure its not cancer, but its being sent to get checked out, just to be sure. Now its just a waiting game to see if I have the all clear.

But one Liverpool fan (supporter) has a problem with another fan (supporter) and vice versa. I dont have a problem with either Peewee or Sabre, but i think the 2 of you need to wind your necks in and think about what else is going on in the world. It does not revolves around you.

[112-1077774096]

kazza, feck off, i have not had a go at sabre for weeks, but when i see blatant discrimination against one poster, and one poster being treated by mods the same way as i dealt with stu and got criticised by that mod, then i will comment on it.

the excuses given for barry banning is because he called someone a name, big deal, you go to the mods and say someone called you a name and they will say "oh it ok, how old are you, just deal with it" barry calls a mod a name and gets banned, stu calls everyone names and only mick has the ability to stand up to him and card him.

too wishy washy

and yes, however you want to dress this up kazza, sabre had no reason to post in this thread, he didnt ban barry and had no reason as to why he was banned so why bother posting in here, i suggest you look back at sabre before he was mod, and then look at sabre now to see how nauseating and up himself he has become, its not a proble with sabre being a mod, its a problem with sabre being an @rse (i notice you dont mention woofs attack also)

so yell you what kazza, before we all post lets look in the papers, find something bad and then say "oh well someone died today, i had better ignore the idiots on here"


and get it right, one liverpool fan has a problem with one sociedad fan, remember?


and your neck?  whatever, if you dont like thre forum dont come on it, but dont ever tell me how to behave, i will behave in the way i see fit, if i dont agree with something i will say (just like you are now) or is it only you who can disagree with things and post it


kazza the world does not revolve around you and your opinions either so keep them to yourself

[112-1077774096]

anyway, made my point. all i have to say about the double standards, discussion over from my part, also made the point about people commenting on things they know nothing about, sabre telling us why barry was banned again even though he didnt know why he was banned an didnt even know who banned him, just thought he would make it all up but most people miss these things an carry on blindly


lets back to football, nothing will be done about this as always.

we have a champions league final to look forward to   

[account deleted by request]

***If*** they think that importance is real, that importance will be only in their minds, the reality is that they're as important as the users that logged in last month and are under the same rules.

Surely thats a bit unfair. If someone has been a regular poster for over 12 months tells great jokes!! and has never had a warning, he should get more leeway than someone who has just joined and is already causing trouble.

What I was getting at was J.Mac says " Fact is, one rule for all or no rules at all doesn't always work.  Judgment calls are sometimes required." Which seems to me pretty fair.

You say Sabre "the reality is that they're as important as the users that logged in last month and are under the same rules." Which I see as a bit unfair, surely someone who has been on newkit for a while, has never had a warning and loses it under provocation, should have some allowance made for past good behaviour, whereas someone who is a recent arrival or as a long history of verbal violence, warnings and abuse should be given short shift?

Of course all this depends on the impartiality of the Mods, which again is virtually impossible as even Mods are human (reputedly) and will have favourite posters, posters they dont particularly like and even some that they actively dislike.

That is one reason why I have always said I could never be a Mod, If a friend was involved in an arguement with another poster I could never be impartial. It would be a bit like refereeing Liverpool ,I could never give a penalty against Liverpool 

[red37]

If a friend was involved in an arguement with another poster I could never be impartial.

  you'd be surprised. There have been occasions where ive stuck up for people, out of my own will and usually because i saw some kind of injustice against them...
Lets just say that, if ever i wanted a bit of back-up i dont think the sentiment would be echoed. I wouldn't hold my breath anyway.

[account deleted by request]

If a friend was involved in an arguement with another poster I could never be impartial.

  you'd be surprised. There have been occasions where ive stuck up for people, out of my own will and usually because i saw some kind of injustice against them...
Lets just say that, if ever i wanted a bit of back-up i dont think the sentiment would be echoed. I wouldn't hold my breath anyway.

Thats what I mean Red37, you would obviously make a much better mod than me mate. Im not saying I would be right to do that, just that thats the handicap I would have to being a mod.

Impartiality is no one of my strong points 

[bigmick]

Feck all to do with me but nobodies posting on the football threads as they're probably still in bed and I'm a bit bored so here goes. Barry may have got barred for calling somebody a name on this occasion, but his behaviour has been well out of order in the past on numerous occasions with overtly racist tones and the like so sooner or later he was going to have to go. If it wasn't now it would have been before long so I don't see he can have too many complaints. FWIW I never had a cross word with the bloke but I have seen him be out of order so like I say he had it coming sooner or later.

As for Stu, who everyone compares everyone to these days whenever there is a dispute I think it's worth pointing out that he has been banned many times. Yes he has returned many times also, but then so has the Hustler, Roberts, etc etc. No doubt if Barry used his imagination he could return under a different name too and get away with it for a while, it's just whether or not he can be ersed at the end of the day.

I just wish people wouldn't need any moderating at all. I've had many differences of opinion with people on here over the years but I don't think I've ever given anybody any abuse as such, what's the point? If somebdy disagrees with my view, so what? At the end of the day, neither of our points of view matter a toss so who cares anyway. Does Daniel Agger give a feck that Stu doesn't rate him, or does Bolo lose sleep at night over my reservations on him as a footballer? I don't think so. It's just bar-room banter and I wish people would treat it as such.

One final point, mod-bashing seems to be becoming a bit of a sport on the quiet and I wish people would think a bit before they sharpen their knives. None of us do it for an ego trip of that I'm certain, and I dfinately enjoy posting about football more than I do trying in vain to sort out rucks between posters. Sometimes it's better to let things lie, Barry got banned for a reason and it's best to just accept it and move on.

[Sabre]

If a friend was involved in an arguement with another poster I could never be impartial.

  you'd be surprised. There have been occasions where ive stuck up for people, out of my own will and usually because i saw some kind of injustice against them...
Lets just say that, if ever i wanted a bit of back-up i dont think the sentiment would be echoed. I wouldn't hold my breath anyway.

Thats what I mean Red37, you would obviously make a much better mod than me mate. Im not saying I would be right to do that, just that thats the handicap I would have to being a mod.

Impartiality is no one of my strong points 

I'm also very friend of my friends, but I do know to see when a friend goes too far. I've calmed down a friend in a pub more than once, and I've told him to fúck off. And he's my friend. Sometimes you have to tell a friend he's wrong. Precisely because you're his friend.

Friendship is not about cheering a friend when he's wrong, that's another whole different thing S@int.

Of course I like some posters more than others, but it's as simple as to forget my personal tastes and have a bit of shame.

Yes shame. You for one, are not one of my fav posters. But if someone gave stick to you unfairly, I'd feel shame if I did nothing to avoid it. Yes, shame, heat in the face, and red coloured face. That's what I'd feel.

BUt that's just me of course.