Us presidential elections 2012 - Republican elections

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Postby LFC2007 » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:59 pm

ConnO'var wrote:Mate,

IMO, for most major politicians in the US (and probably the world over), moral and minority issues mean next to nothing.... they jump on the appropriate bandwagon when required and sit on the fence most times.

They live and die by the performance of the economy.

Hell, Clinton was found to be a liar, fornicator and adulterer but in most American eyes, he was a good president because the economy did well under his so called guidance.

Most politicians are not in it for the people.... they're in it for themselves.

America is often touted by their people as the bastion of freedom and equality AND the champion of Democracy. For me, their system is as corrupt if not more so than most other nations in the world. Money and pipeline politics disguised behind a thinly veiled facade of righteousness.

There's no question, Conn, that the state of the economy more often than not ends up defining the Presidency, and the likelihood of election or re-election. But, the assertion to which I was responding was that it doesn't matter who gets elected, Republican or Democrat, the outcome is the same because business concerns 'tell' them what to do. Now, not to deny that business interests wield significant influence on the political process, it simply isn't credible to say that it makes no difference who is elected. Compare the economic policy of Reagan and Carter, or in the UK, Thatcher and all of her post-war predecessors and then tell me there is no difference.
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Postby metalhead » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:43 am

It looks like Newt Gingrich will take South Carolina!
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Postby metalhead » Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:16 am

Anyone saw the interview of Rick Santorum with Piers Morgan on CNN?
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Postby Reg » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:56 am

metalhead wrote:It looks like Newt Gingrich will take South Carolina!

Yeah but I dont think he'll go all the way.
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Postby metalhead » Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:23 am

Seriously Americans would be stupid (no offense) if the likes of Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich become president
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:11 am

metalhead wrote:Seriously Americans would be stupid (no offense) if the likes of Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich become president

Then that's a real danger because they voted Bush Jr !  The most stupid person ever to sit on a seat of power.
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Postby Reg » Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:46 am

Bush Jr = Beavis and Butthead rolled into one.
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Postby aCe' » Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:00 pm

Obama will walk it..

Hes come into power at the most difficult of times and imo he deserves some more time and space to try and implement his plans. Its a tough job being president especially when over 300million people in the country think they can do a better job than those in office. Obviously, they have quite a few challenges they need to overcome in the short term especially when it comes to job creation, small businesses and consumer confidence. I understand why the Obama administration haven't pushed the financial market all the way to try and improve it but sometimes it's best to let it self adjust after initial efforts. In the long term though I really think Obama's plans can take the US to the next level in terms of foreign affairs, national security, and overall standard of living.
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Postby tonyeh » Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:17 pm

metalhead wrote:Seriously Americans would be stupid (no offense) if the likes of Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich become president

President Newt...

Fucking hell, can you imagine.

Who the fuck would call their kid Newt anyway? I hope it's a nickname.
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