Liverpool FC Forum

[Kharhaz]

Now by contibutions I mean dosh. When we send PM's and receive them in email applications like Outlook, or Windows Live at the bottom there is a contibution notice. Subtle, A kind of "but you dont have to !" kind of message.

Now, we all have our opinions. Our opinions against the mods, and the mods against us. Bad language being censored, insults being punished.

Unfairness constantly being yelled. Opinions offered over everything. At one stage there was complaints over the adverts being shown on this site, especially in the "Takeover Talk" topic.

Ive thought of a way to make this place a fairer place to post. CONTRIBUTE.

The rules would be simple.

1) All contributes gratefully received. By contributing you are keeping this forum alive and in doing so have more say than anyone else.

2) If contributers are few but consistent, any opinion with regards to decisions made by moderators must be taken into consideration.

3) Constant contributers are by right entitled to be made moderators, as they are keeping the forum going.

I myself are as guilty as anyone when it comes to posting my petty grievances on here. This isnt an overall solution to how this place is being run but hopefully will offer more of an insight as to how priveliged we all are to offer an opinion. It costs money to run this site, im simply offering a more alternative outcome to part with our money to keep this site running. To offer an incentive as to why we should keep this site running and hopefully gain a common ground between respect and disrepect.

[babu]

Bad Idea.

Today I give this forum 10,000 pounds. Tomorrow I ban every I have ever had a disargeement with.

Contributions to the forum are completely voluntary, donations should be made out of a sense of wanting to see the forum continue, becasue you enjoy the place, not to give you the right to have more authority (virtual authority   )

It that were the case, all the advertisers should be moderators.

The easiest way to contribute, is by clicking on the advertising at the top and bottom of the page.

I remember a time when there was adverts under the top five posts in each thread, I'm glad that's gone, but if it were to keep the forum alive, its a small price to pay.

I think there are a couple of good threads somewhere explaining contributions, donations and advertising on here.

Another thing to remember, this forum, like life, will never be Fair. so get over it <- stolen from Andy I think

[Kharhaz]

Bad Idea.

Today I give this forum 10,000 pounds. Tomorrow I ban every I have ever had a disargeement with.

Contributions to the forum are completely voluntary, donations should be made out of a sense of wanting to see the forum continue, becasue you enjoy the place, not to give you the right to have more authority (virtual authority   )

It that were the case, all the adverisers should be moderators.

The easiest way to contribute, is by clicking on the advertising at the top and bottom of the page.

I remember a time when there was adverts under the top five posts in each thread, I'm glad that's gone, but if it were to keep the forum alive, its a small price to pay.

I think there are a couple of good threads somewhere explaining contributions, donations and advertising on here.

Another thing to remember, this forum, like life, will never be Fair. so get over it <- stolen from Andy I think

Im not say giving money to this forum would give you outright rights, Im saying if your contributing then you have more rights as a contributor. This forum is asking for money but doesnt want to press it. Im saying it should offer something for your money. Im guessing at this minute everyone, including the mods are giving nothing financially to keep it going. An incentive should be set up.

[babu]

Kharhaz,

I understand what you are saying, I just completely disagree with it. I think if anything, someone who contributes good quality football posts should be given more rights or leeway. NOT someone who gives money to the adminstrator of this forum (Thanks LFC).

And I think you are wrong about the contributions from the mods, I think it was Leon at one time urging people to donate, and I suspect he donated at the time. In that particular thread a few people responded with donations.

Also, I am sure all the mods here do have day jobs and their time is worth money, so in that sense they do contribute financially to the forum, by NOT sending billable hours to the administrator.

If you don't like a mod, start a hate campaign, its more fun.

Incentive to contribute should be a desire to see the forum continue. If at all members are given special privellges, it should be something like: Subscribing Members - eg they pay a small annual fee and are then allowed to post in the pay members area.

However that in itself will not mean this new area has any quality post's, just cause you pay your subscription, doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.

[Number 9]

What a load of shi'te to come out with Kharzaz!No offence like!

Basically you think whoever pays money constantly should have more say and be the boss.
A dictatorship as such where the ££ people rule the peasants.
I dont know how you came up with that but you must have been very bored or hopefully intoxicated!

Besides Peewee would own the forum and rule like Saddam,he's minted dont forget!

If you or anyone wants to contribute financially to the site im sure it would be appreciated.....but to want stripes on your arm for doing so,Fer fu,ck sake wise up!
Would never work,its a daft suggestion mate!

[Roger Red Hat]

what would happen if I gave the forum £1000 then a week later got into an arguement with someone and called them something out of order and got a ban? I'd feel like I wanted my money back and may try to get it back. It'd cause al sorts of agro and people would be hiring hitmen and kneecappers to get the dosh back.

i sort of see where your coming from but its a cr@p idea.

[jonnymac1979]

1) All contributes gratefully received. By contributing you are keeping this forum alive and in doing so have more say than anyone else.

You'll have Peewee offering to buy the forum again in a minute mate...

Also, I am sure all the mods here do have day jobs and their time is worth money, so in that sense they do contribute financially to the forum, by NOT sending billable hours to the administrator.

Yep.  I'm logged in here all day and check a few times per hour that it's not in meltdown.  This has suited me well for the last few years and is even easier now there are more moderators on board. 

But I do have a job to do in real ilfe.  I'm sure we all do. 

The sentiments are good and all that, just contribute if you want to.  If you don't want to, don't.

As subscription only pay area where you can post reeks of Koptalk.  Some fat conman has been running that site for years taking money off people.  Click the link below. 

http://koptalkinsider.wordpress.com/

[Leonmc0708]

Our opinions against the mods, and the mods against us.

IS this really how you see this forum ?

You need to get yourself a hobby mate.

[red37]

Well, i think the mods are sound.

[supersub]

I agree with red37....IN ANCIENT ROME...WE'LL BRING IT BACK HOME

thats my contribution to this thread

[Sabre]

3) Constant contributers are by right entitled to be made moderators, as they are keeping the forum going.

Why should we punnish the contributers with the mod job?

I have a crazy idea: tax the complains!! -- the idea is inspired in Karhaz' idea.

Mods are selected as mods because at the time of selection those mods are well considered in the forum -- when they become mods they are victims of hate campaigns

Selecting a mod implies that you give those members the responsability of judging troubles. We trust them, we assume sometimes will get things wrong as human beings they are, and we should be grateful for the time they spend moderating the forum. Think it this way, sometimes you're a mod, you've been working all day, and you log in newkit to enjoy the forum a bit, to enjoy the last victory a bit. But you can't, because as soon as you login you have a popping up window with multiple reports and complains. That's tiresome. Reluctantly you attend the complain and try to do your best to solve it. Then you think "now I'll read footie threads at last!", and you click the new posts button. And then you see a new thread in general chat named "Locking threads. It must stop" or something like that commenting your last decission.

Believe me, dealing with that kind of thing without being paid is tiring as fúck. I when newbies in internet think it's some sort of privilege.

So, the mods are the ones that have the responsability of moderating the forum. The rest of the forum, *hasn't that responsability*. This last sentece might seem obvious but anyway I wanted to state it just in case someone hasn't thought about that ever.

A member who hasn't that responsability wants to have direct influence in those decissions? he says it's for the good of the forum? he says this is for newkit being a better place? This place is important for him, he says? then, let him pay the mod accountability tax.  A member could ask a card to be reviewed by clicking the "Review Mod decission" link. Paying with 5 pounds for it.  The mods then would review a decission, and give an explanation.

Achieved goals:

* Extra financial source for the site, my hunch is that there  will be regular users of that service

* People won't complain for the sake of complaining, people will complain only when they feel a decission is a disgrace for the forum. And if the forum is so important for you that you want to have direct influence in decissions that are up to the mods, then I think it's fair to ask how much is that importance speaking in pounds.

* By having less complains for the sake of complaining, mods could "get back to posting" as many members request.

[Bad Bob]

Too complicated, Sabre.   An easier solution is to just bribe, excuse me, "lobby" the individual Mods.  I would personally pledge not to give any aggro to any member who lines my pockets.  No warnings, no cards, no bannings...even if you really deserve 'em.  I'm talking complete carte blanche for those willing to pay enough.  Stump up the cash and I'll happily pull a Wenger every time you do something wrong.  Get out the chequebook, folks, you know it makes sense.

[GYBS]

ill send you one million zimbawe dollars mate

[Sabre]

Now we are understanding each other Bad Bob



I always wanted to open, turn, and show one of those, like in the films 

[Bad Bob]

Paypal account being set up as we speak lads.  More details to follow....