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[bigmick]

I still can't really understand why the original point I made has to turn into a sh!t fight. All this "you should get out more" stuff is kind of missing the point, and I agree i should anyway. Walk my dog, have a fanta and all that stuff, I do, I will continue to, I'll do it more if you like  .

There's no football on at the moment, we aren't signing anyone as far as I can tell over the next day or so, so I opened up a debate about the card system. That's all. Barry's said he likes it just as it is, many would probably agree with him. Some have said that perhaps it could be improved. Why though does it have tot urn into everyone frothing at the mouth and falling out?

I should have just made it a poll, I was gonna do that too. It's funny how people say "it's only a forum FFS get a life", and then go crazy simply because they disagree with someones opinion on it.

You are behaving like a self important tool mate..sorry!
It needs said.Yes great poster and all that and whether you believe it or not I do respect you!

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTT!!

No one has the right to come on a forum and suggest a new set of rules..to suit their own needs,OCD or agenda!
Quite simply,good poster as you are you are no better tooled up to come on here and lecture us all on what we should/should not do!You are just another poster..remember that!

If I remember right you did flirt with being a mod before but decided it was not for you?
Maybe leave modding to the mods then big lad?
Kunts as they are they dont need to read your endless gripes,nor does anyone else.

Maybe your intentions were good,I dont know..they fuc'king stink the board out to the balls though!

Thanks for the "respect" thing anyway. Look, I'm not "lecturing" anybody, I simply put it out there and said "what do you reckon"? I aren't going to go back and quote it, but I'm pretty sure without looking that those were the EXACT words I used. "what do you reckon"?

Now as I say, you've already said you like it as it is, which is great. Some others have said they like it as it is, which is great too. I WAS JUST ASKING FFS 

Also, on the modding thing I did have a go at it for a bit, I think it was about a year or so though rather than a week or two (it seemed like a long time anyway, probably for everybody).

[GYBS]

The anti's give as good as they get . They can be as abusive as the rest of us , and if anyone say's any different there full of .

listen buddy.. if you come on and call me a kunt with the mods coming on a few minutes later admiring how you actually hit the nail on the head, leaves me no other option but to reply to the abuse i got from you in similar language...

Post isnt about you Igor, im just talking in general...

When was the last time you saw an anti-rafa poster have a go at a pro-rafa one for stating a ridiculous simpleminded opinion ?!

I know both sides are guilty to certain extent but imo its always the pros who start it, and the mods do little to help the situation more often than not...

Its an LFC forum..you should really expect the posters to be pro LFC,manager,team and all??


If you go on a Manc forum as im sure you do,if you start calling Fergie a tool and the club a kunt I dare say you would have equal flack to shun off your wings??

can you not read or are you just an idiot with too much to say ?

FFS you and your boyfriend keep going on about people calling Rafa a 'kunt' and 'tool' and 'fat spanish waiter' ..etc tec...
I certainly havent seen many if any on this forum calling Rafa a kunt or tool... some disagree with his ways and have reservations about certain aspects of his management but i havent seen any insult the man like you guys claim is done... some jokes where made about Rafa and Kuyt by EVERYONE at certain times in the last few season but thats all they were.. jokes... the whole spanish waiter thing.. the kuyt thing... etc

now the whole manc thing is getting frustrating as fck lad... seriously.. i know you think its funny and you think that in supporting the managers every decision and thinking every player is the best around and is beyond criticism it somehow makes you a better supporter and all that... couldnt care less really... but you need to realize that not everyone thinks the same way you do... doesnt make them a manc or whatever.. ffs werent you talking about that exact same thing a post or 2 back...

p.s... just like your friend Lando, you dont really belong in a footy forum.... stick to general chat marshmallows 

Where did I ever say anyone called Rafa a tool or anything?i just dont like the anti LFC stance of a few on an LFC board!

I dont have a boyfriend!Sorry!



If you are suggesting me and Lando are in any way joint at the hip or in on a mutual agenda on the board,think again...never once in the last while(id say at least 8 months have i exchanged PMs with him) and even when i did it was smalltalk,probably calling him a tool or a gay w@nker!!

as for the whole Manc thing??
I could swear you wished him all the best or every success...again,this is an LFC forum,such things are not acceptable and there should not be a song and dance made about it when someone wishes a turncoat all the best!

if you are being taken out of context or dont wish an ex LFC player all the best at UTD you are not very good with words.
Dont know you(probably a decent guy) but as I said dont come on an LFC forum wishing that kunt all the best and expect no one to say anything!

cool...
i get your point about Owen.. fair enough we see things differently but i understand where you're coming from...

nothing personal Barry, seemed like you were taking things seriously for a minute just thought we'd clear this up...

On a side note... where GYBS ? he's to blame for all this.. anyone else notice how it all went downhill as soon as he joined the forum ?!   
Maybe instead of changing the card system and all that we could just vote GYBS off it... 

you can keep me out of your little spats manc boy 

[aCe']

But keep up the sterling effort lad.  I'm sure somebody somewhere finds you a veritable fount of inspiration.

thanks ... wish i could say the same about you...

[aCe']

See this is what i cant grasp Ace all this pro an anti stuff , ive been on Babels case all season an ive slated Benayoun a few times but that does not make me anti against them two, if they have a good game ill support them which was the case when Benayouns form changed, I really dont think there should be any anti or this pro thingy . Often than not you have slated Rafa an some including me have come back at you with responses that you havnt liked , but thats just opinions it dosnt make any person pro or anti, just because you take a stance on what you think is right, People have come up over the last season , with very good debates on the whole ins an outs of the team down to the backroom staff, but in my eyes just because we all sometimes disagree with each other that dosnt mean we are all this anti or pro malarky, Ive been at some games an heard the lad next to me lay in to Rafa or one of the players one week an said your talking through your a.rse lad, an the next week praising them were ive been on at them, it varies ,

So in my eyes as ive said all this pro an anti doesnt exist for me,

nanny ive given Rafa credit countless times when hes deserved it... iv never said he was bad manager or even an average one never mind calling him a kunt or whatever... Still, anyone who has anything negative to say, rather anyone who has a persisting criticism that lasts for long with regards to Rafas ways, is seen by most as an anti... i've talked about Rafas transfers and the money spent argument in particular for long... people take the facts i give on the issue and translate them as me being an anti... if what i say makes me an anti then so be it.. dont really care what im labelled.. Rafa isnt LFC and even if i dont like Rafa it doesnt or shouldnt necessarily mean that im a MU fan...  by the same understanding, it shouldnt mean that others are free to have goes at me because i dont share their contentment with how things are goin... I had the same concerns i do now when we were top of the league last season... What happened when i said anything even remotely critical then ? hell broke loose ! People just dont seem able to take any sort of criticism the manager comes under, which is a shame because the major problem in footballing terms this club has had over the past 4 or 5 years is that we simply havent been learning from our mistakes...

Its a football discussion which means you'll always have differing opinions or else it would be boring as fck reading the same 'all hail rafa' posts in every thread... End of the day, anything we say whether good or bad will make no difference to how the club performs... dont think anyone who isnt a big Liverpool fan would bother signing up for a Liverpool forum and sticking around for a fair amount of time...

Ace were in any of my post mate have i said you were anti, alls im saying is i hate all this pro an anti thingy . If i disagree with someone ill say it same way as if i agree . Weve all disagreed one way or another wether it be on the wrong side being picked , or how sh.ite this or that player is, an how well weve played, but that dosnt form into pro an anti, thats about disagreeing one week an agreeing the next. Fecking hell if i was in the government id be Dennis Skinner on the far left back benchers , but it dosnt make me right , thats all im trying to say

haha...
im not saying you did or do Nanny.. was just talking in general...
We all disagree in many things... no problems whatsoever there... makes it more interesting and keeps the boards going...

[NANNY RED]

[you can keep me out of your little spats manc boy 

Oh dont feckin start again were all havin a kiss a makey up here

[GYBS]

was a joke nanny hence the use of smiley at the end

[redhayesy]

Lando mate. you cannot have it both ways!!

if someone has a different view to you then by essence its gonna be derogotory to your view. an opinion is based on what that person feels it to be. if that makes them angry about the manager or not, then thats their right.
you cant go a crusade and try and crush every bad word that maybe said about the manager.

Discussion has and always will have things in it you dont like. but you must be man enough to accept that. Have your own view on the manager and stick to that mate. thats good for discussion, but allow whoever to vent their frustration about the manager in their own way, as thats how they see it !!

One begs to differ, Judge. "Rafa is a f*cking idiotic fat Spanish waiter" has no grounding in fact, save for the reference to his weight. It is not a differing opinion, but a personal attack on the manager.

"One does not rate Rafa, as..." would represent the opening line of a differing opinion.

If the more sensitive souls amongst us spend their lives praying for the day one responds to their literature with respect, perhaps they, too, might afford the manager and his acquisitions the same courtesy in return.

One harbours serious doubt.

discussion is all well an good judge but i'm sure you would agree is that what Lando is saying an i agree with him is that opinions are one hing - lack of knowledge for our FC an history can never be accepted. it really does p1ss me off aswell,have to say- before people post opinions on here, fecking take the time to read up etc on our history.

take the time to educate an truley understand how times have changed in football over the years but remember LFC  has an will always remain focused on our history in what laid the foundations & what is vital to this FC in the future to gain futher succes.

i totally admire raffa in what he is trying to achieve in our future glory and the support he has from fans showed tw1t & tw@t that they also need to educate themselves more if they have ever thought this is just simplya business oppotunity,it fecking isn't never has been an never will be! that's why i fully support raffa in everthing he does, cause he fecking loves LFC an has shown that from day one & has transformed that commitment,belief, & passion into the players also from day one.

for me dirk kuyt is a player who has grasped that moe than most an has given 100% effort in training, first team or even as a sub.

i just don't understand any fan on here who doesn't recognise that, as i still say their is no manager out there that i would even consider having as manager,an a player with the heart an soul of kuyt is what it's all about for me & always will be.

[bigmick]

Hey my apologies as well, I didn't say "what do you reckon" I've just looked. The first line of my topic starter was this "I've been on about this for a while now and just wondered what everyone else thinks". Same kind of thing but not the exact words I said I'd used.

At the stat though, Igor had a wee joke, it was all good and then within a page or two it was all off. I wouldn't have brought it up if we were/signing selling anyone or were playing matches, it just seemed like a good moment to float an idea. I should have known better really I suppose

[red37]

But keep up the sterling effort lad.  I'm sure somebody somewhere finds you a veritable fount of inspiration.

thanks ... wish i could say the same about you...

You can hardly bring yerself to say anything positive about this ere club you are supposedly a supporter of....what makes anyone think you'd have a kind word to say about a moderator from one of its associated websites. Especially one who still reckons yer on a mission   

You great big tart...turn it in eh   

[GYBS]

well said redhayesy - Rafa will get everything right but everything he does is all what he thinks is good for the club and as for kuyt well i will back him every day off the week due to his commitment and effort for the cause and the results he produces . He has his faults like most players just feel some never see past them and ignore all the good stuff . Some days/months it feels people ignore positives and just focus on every little negative .

[NANNY RED]

But keep up the sterling effort lad.  I'm sure somebody somewhere finds you a veritable fount of inspiration.

thanks ... wish i could say the same about you...

You can hardly bring yerself to say anything positive about this ere club you are supposedly a supporter of....what makes anyone think you'd have a kind word to say about a moderator from one of its associated websites. Especially one who still reckons yer on a mission   

You great big tart...turn it in eh   

Weres he goin on his mission , Can anyone go like

[aCe']

The anti's give as good as they get . They can be as abusive as the rest of us , and if anyone say's any different there full of .

listen buddy.. if you come on and call me a kunt with the mods coming on a few minutes later admiring how you actually hit the nail on the head, leaves me no other option but to reply to the abuse i got from you in similar language...

Post isnt about you Igor, im just talking in general...

When was the last time you saw an anti-rafa poster have a go at a pro-rafa one for stating a ridiculous simpleminded opinion ?!

I know both sides are guilty to certain extent but imo its always the pros who start it, and the mods do little to help the situation more often than not...

Its an LFC forum..you should really expect the posters to be pro LFC,manager,team and all??


If you go on a Manc forum as im sure you do,if you start calling Fergie a tool and the club a kunt I dare say you would have equal flack to shun off your wings??

can you not read or are you just an idiot with too much to say ?

FFS you and your boyfriend keep going on about people calling Rafa a 'kunt' and 'tool' and 'fat spanish waiter' ..etc tec...
I certainly havent seen many if any on this forum calling Rafa a kunt or tool... some disagree with his ways and have reservations about certain aspects of his management but i havent seen any insult the man like you guys claim is done... some jokes where made about Rafa and Kuyt by EVERYONE at certain times in the last few season but thats all they were.. jokes... the whole spanish waiter thing.. the kuyt thing... etc

now the whole manc thing is getting frustrating as fck lad... seriously.. i know you think its funny and you think that in supporting the managers every decision and thinking every player is the best around and is beyond criticism it somehow makes you a better supporter and all that... couldnt care less really... but you need to realize that not everyone thinks the same way you do... doesnt make them a manc or whatever.. ffs werent you talking about that exact same thing a post or 2 back...

p.s... just like your friend Lando, you dont really belong in a footy forum.... stick to general chat marshmallows 

Where did I ever say anyone called Rafa a tool or anything?i just dont like the anti LFC stance of a few on an LFC board!

I dont have a boyfriend!Sorry!



If you are suggesting me and Lando are in any way joint at the hip or in on a mutual agenda on the board,think again...never once in the last while(id say at least 8 months have i exchanged PMs with him) and even when i did it was smalltalk,probably calling him a tool or a gay w@nker!!

as for the whole Manc thing??
I could swear you wished him all the best or every success...again,this is an LFC forum,such things are not acceptable and there should not be a song and dance made about it when someone wishes a turncoat all the best!

if you are being taken out of context or dont wish an ex LFC player all the best at UTD you are not very good with words.
Dont know you(probably a decent guy) but as I said dont come on an LFC forum wishing that kunt all the best and expect no one to say anything!

cool...
i get your point about Owen.. fair enough we see things differently but i understand where you're coming from...

nothing personal Barry, seemed like you were taking things seriously for a minute just thought we'd clear this up...

On a side note... where GYBS ? he's to blame for all this.. anyone else notice how it all went downhill as soon as he joined the forum ?!   
Maybe instead of changing the card system and all that we could just vote GYBS off it... 

you can keep me out of your little spats manc boy 

Here he comes our little Yosemite Sam...
was just kidding mate what would this board be without GYBS contributing his 1200 posts/hour/thread ?!
to quote a great great man of our time...
"keep up the sterling effort lad.  I'm sure somebody somewhere finds you a veritable fount of inspiration"   

[GYBS]

I hear they have just sold their first manc owen shirt






























did it cost you much ace

[woof woof !]

I wouldn't have brought it up if we were/signing selling anyone or were playing matches, it just seemed like a good moment to float an idea. I should have known better really I suppose

Don't beat yourself up Mick. The close season is always a good time to launch a floater .   

[bigmick]

I too think Red's loyalty and knowledge of the club is laudible, but when he says "I just don't understand any fan on here who doesn't recognise that" (his opinion on Rafa, Kuyt etc) then that's the crux. It's how you react to this "not being able to understand" which forms the debate, and in fairness to Red he debates really well.

I didn't understand fans who couldn't see that making 75 changes to the first team in the first 15 matches of a given season wasn't going have a negative effect on our fluency. People though are entitled to their view, on any given subject.