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[red37]

i agree about smokers. Leave 'em alone to have a good cough!  Why ive just spent the last ten minutes 'Raking up' in the bog     feel much better after that!!.......

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help musicians though. Look at hendrix, dylan, morrison (van and jim), donavan, pink floyd etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

I made that point in my earlier posts, it's very true, drugs are becoming the norm of society these days, it's sad but it's true. You only have to look at the down grading of cannabis to see this is evident.

[dawson99]

I meant to say DRUGS help musicians

Everything is a drug. Life can be seen as a drug. Ive seen loved up saps higher thansomeone on crack. Personally id say the crack is cheaper and more fun but thats just me

If you dont hurt someone, do whatever you want. If you can afford it, buy it.

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If that's your stand point on things, then what's wrong with someone taking crack cocaine or acid? They aren't harming anyone else just themselves, they are killing themselves quicker than smokers and binge drinkers, but they live in a democratic society, they have civil liberties so what's wrong with taking hard drugs? It's no worse than binge drinking. You see you cannot preach about living in a democratic society when you discriminate against drug addicts. I've met a few druggies in my time and I'll tell you what, they have well paid jobs and it's their wages that go on drugs, they don't go out robbing people. You are generalising far too much, at the end of the day if someone is going to rob someone they'll do it regardless of their state of mind.

It's laughable at this day and age that there are double standards, nicotine is a drug, alcohol is a drug and cocaine is a drug, the only difference is cocaine is stronger. I don't agree with drugs, but I don't agree with discriminating against someone who does drugs.

How many people can afford a £200 a day cocaine habit? The problem for me is not that they take drugs its how they pay for them. Robbing and mugging, dealing and killing takes away any right to civil liberties for me.

Someone wants to take drugs in the privacy of their own home and has the money to pay for them I don't have a problem with. Why should I? If people could control there selves under the influence of drugs and alcohol as they can when smoking I wouldnt have a problem with drugs at all.

Most of my friends when I was young used drugs, went to work and  never caused a problem. I have no problems with people taking drugs, its the ones that pay for their habit through crime that are the problem.

Drink is a much bigger social problem than drugs or smoking. We live in a world of excess today where enough is never enough.

If someone wants to take drugs and doesnt want to drive or otherwise hurt or endanger anyone else why should I interfere. If someone has sex with a goat in the privacy of their own home its no problem to me (consenting goat of course).

[67-1161385641]

Yes, you're very correct, I agree with everything you say, but people rob for all kinds of different reasons, not just to pay for a quick fix. That's like saying every drunk is a binge drinker, even though they might only get drunk once in a bluemoon.

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help musicians though. Look at hendrix, dylan, morrison (van and jim), donavan, pink floyd etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

Donovan another of my favourite's from the past! I never really understood the Donovan or Dylan argument, I liked them both.

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Yes, you're very correct, I agree with everything you say, but people rob for all kinds of different reasons, not just to pay for a quick fix. That's like saying every drunk is a binge drinker, even though they might only get drunk once in a bluemoon.

So how does the government try to control drink and drugs ? Make drink freely available 24 hours a day and makes drugs illegal. Just wait till pies and cakes are illegal. People stood on street corners dealing 1/8ths of pork pie and a half of cream cake!

[dawson99]

Drugs will be legal soon, think about the money they would make on taxes. They are cacking themselves at the moment in case everyone does quit smoking, they would lose billions in taxes every year.

As for drinking, virtually nothing has changed, there are harldy any24 hour drinking places opened.

People will always do drugs, they always have and they always will.

If the lefties had there way all knives would be illegal so how could we use them in the kitchen?

Violence on tv doesnt mean more violence on the streets, look at how many people watch comedies, and that isnt attributed to more happy things happening.

Just let people do what makes them happy.as long as you dont hurt anyone, why not?

[red37]

Ahh the excesses and pitfalls of life eh.......

..and the depressed

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Drugs will be legal soon, think about the money they would make on taxes. They are cacking themselves at the moment in case everyone does quit smoking, they would lose billions in taxes every year.

As for drinking, virtually nothing has changed, there are harldy any24 hour drinking places opened.

People will always do drugs, they always have and they always will.

If the lefties had there way all knives would be illegal so how could we use them in the kitchen?

Violence on tv doesnt mean more violence on the streets, look at how many people watch comedies, and that isnt attributed to more happy things happening.

Just let people do what makes them happy.as long as you dont hurt anyone, why not?

The idea behind drinking seems to have changed though Dawson. When I was young we went out to have a great time not just to get drunk ( we usually did!) Today many seem to go out with the sole intention of getting as drunk as possible.

I think its the availability of hard drugs that has changed the "drug scene". In the 70's people used to take bennies, magic mushrooms, green bombers, black micro's ,blotting paper and pot( don't ask me what they are Iv never taken drugs) Today its cocaine and heroin that are the fashion drugs.

Its not violence on tv thats the cause now mate, they have moved on .... its violent computer games thats the problem now!

Just let people do what makes them happy.as long as you dont hurt anyone, why not?

I think thats a great philosophy Dawson

[dawson99]

Heroin has always been massive, actually used to be perfectly legal. so what we are saying in truth is that drugs arent the problem, its the society thats taking them. If a society has less values, then every part of there life will be detrimentally effected by this

[67-1161385641]

Ahh the excesses and pitfalls of life eh.......

..and the depressed

You're as thick as a ten inch plank if you think Morrissey is depressed. 

Saint, your argument doesn't fit in with my points. People can be the size of a house if they want to, if they are happy then who cares? It's the same with smokers, drinkers and everyone else. Who are the Government to nanny state us all the time? Who am I to turn my nose up at drugs addicts, binge drinkers, chain smokers etc? At the end of the day they have civil rights, the same as me and you, I couldn't careless. If it breaches and oppresses other peoples civil rights then that's a different matter, but to be so generalising is a crime within itself.

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I think its the availability of hard drugs that has changed the "drug scene". In the 70's people used to take bennies, magic mushrooms, green bombers, black micro's ,blotting paper and pot( don't ask me what they are Iv never taken drugs) Today its cocaine and heroin that are the fashion drugs.

Its not violence on tv thats the cause now mate, they have moved on .... its violent computer games thats the problem now!

The most commonly used drugs is weed and E. Drugs will always be used by people and there isn't a good solution to counter act drugs. Violent video games is not the problem, it's idiots who are so thick that they cannot tell the difference between reality and virtually imagry.

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Heroin has always been massive, actually used to be perfectly legal. so what we are saying in truth is that drugs arent the problem, its the society thats taking them. If a society has less values, then every part of there life will be detrimentally effected by this

Spot on, Morphine a type of heroin is used in medical care, it's the same with Cannabis.

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Heroin has always been massive, actually used to be perfectly legal. so what we are saying in truth is that drugs arent the problem, its the society thats taking them. If a society has less values, then every part of there life will be detrimentally effected by this

I agree with your comments on society, but as far as I am aware Heroin was never a big thing in the 60's or 70's. I certainly never knowingly met anyone who took it. It was the middle 80's before heroin really started to take off at least to my knowledge.